OT Mods, Biases, and Sects Oh My!

[Orion Bailey]

And this political BS that has nothing to do with the coronavirus needs to be in a different thread.

address in fairness to your fellow mod who keeps tossing absolutes about his opinion of trump in here?

mags is responding to it is all.....

 

[Orion Bailey]

It's safe to assume that whenever a mod reminds someone to keep things on topic, he is reminding everyone.

yet curiously certain people never get publicly addressed like others do.
I don't think its safe to assume anything. Hasn't this forum taught us that?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Why must it be addressed "publicly"? You're assuming that mods don't discuss things amongst themselves and others via PM/email.

A "public" shit storm is the very thing they try to avoid...which is precisely why people who sometimes act like jackasses such as you and I et al, are not moderators.

Because when you call one person out publicly for something and not another who is doing the same thing, it screams bias. If they don't want a shit storm, either address EVERYONE privately, or make a point to address specifically ALL involved and not just one side.

It doesn't help when you have a mod who says daily i'm right and you are wrong and you are on the wrong side of history and you are an idiot and blah blah blah.

It stinks of bias, even if not intended, to scold one person publicly, but not the other person basically doing the same thing. It screams even more bias when the other person not being addressed is a mod.
It scream even more bias when it seems more often than not its mostly a specific group on a certain side of the political isle that doesn't align with many mods who end up getting called out.

Read the posts? Who posts the most negative and hateful posts? And who gets targeted to play nicer?

a right winger was banned from this thread for making a joke about me, which was just a joke, but left wingers can spew hate posts without an eyebrow raise from the mods.....

I have no issues with people posting their opinions however stern. I only have issues when some people get targeted for creating conflicts when others don't, who are creating the same conflicts by posting the same stern opinions and degrading all who have a differing opinion.

Some of these same people say responsibility starts at the top. No different than here. Responsibility to have a better forum starts at the top. If mods cant stop from degrading other posters with their opinions, how can they expect the average member?

 

[MickZagger]

Because when you call one person out publicly for something and not another who is doing the same thing, it screams bias. If they don't want a shit storm, either address EVERYONE privately, or make a point to address specifically ALL involved and not just one side.

It doesn't help when you have a mod who says daily i'm right and you are wrong and you are on the wrong side of history and you are an idiot and blah blah blah.

It stinks of bias, even if not intended, to scold one person publicly, but not the other person basically doing the same thing. It screams even more bias when the other person not being addressed is a mod.
It scream even more bias when it seems more often than not its mostly a specific group on a certain side of the political isle that doesn't align with many mods who end up getting called out.

Read the posts? Who posts the most negative and hateful posts? And who gets targeted to play nicer?

a right winger was banned from this thread for making a joke about me, which was just a joke, but left wingers can spew hate posts without an eyebrow raise from the mods.....

I have no issues with people posting their opinions however stern. I only have issues when some people get targeted for creating conflicts when others don't, who are creating the same conflicts by posting the same stern opinions and degrading all who have a differing opinion.

Some of these same people say responsibility starts at the top. No different than here. Responsibility to have a better forum starts at the top. If mods cant stop from degrading other posters with their opinions, how can they expect the average member?

TL;DR

 

[Orion Bailey]

TL;DR

Sorry I didn't include pictures....

 

[Orion Bailey]

Whatever, have it your way.

Ooor.. Have it a fair way...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We need to disinfect some posts in this thread.

Now everyone play nice.

 

[Chris Craig]

yet curiously certain people never get publicly addressed like others do.
I don't think its safe to assume anything. Hasn't this forum taught us that?

I addressed everyone

 

[Chris Craig]

Because when you call one person out publicly for something and not another who is doing the same thing, it screams bias. If they don't want a shit storm, either address EVERYONE privately, or make a point to address specifically ALL involved and not just one side.

It doesn't help when you have a mod who says daily i'm right and you are wrong and you are on the wrong side of history and you are an idiot and blah blah blah.

It stinks of bias, even if not intended, to scold one person publicly, but not the other person basically doing the same thing. It screams even more bias when the other person not being addressed is a mod.
It scream even more bias when it seems more often than not its mostly a specific group on a certain side of the political isle that doesn't align with many mods who end up getting called out.

Read the posts? Who posts the most negative and hateful posts? And who gets targeted to play nicer?

a right winger was banned from this thread for making a joke about me, which was just a joke, but left wingers can spew hate posts without an eyebrow raise from the mods.....

I have no issues with people posting their opinions however stern. I only have issues when some people get targeted for creating conflicts when others don't, who are creating the same conflicts by posting the same stern opinions and degrading all who have a differing opinion.

Some of these same people say responsibility starts at the top. No different than here. Responsibility to have a better forum starts at the top. If mods cant stop from degrading other posters with their opinions, how can they expect the average member?

Everyone was addressed....everyone.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Because when you call one person out publicly for something and not another who is doing the same thing, it screams bias. If they don't want a shit storm, either address EVERYONE privately, or make a point to address specifically ALL involved and not just one side.

It doesn't help when you have a mod who says daily i'm right and you are wrong and you are on the wrong side of history and you are an idiot and blah blah blah.

It stinks of bias, even if not intended, to scold one person publicly, but not the other person basically doing the same thing. It screams even more bias when the other person not being addressed is a mod.
It scream even more bias when it seems more often than not its mostly a specific group on a certain side of the political isle that doesn't align with many mods who end up getting called out.

Read the posts? Who posts the most negative and hateful posts? And who gets targeted to play nicer?

a right winger was banned from this thread for making a joke about me, which was just a joke, but left wingers can spew hate posts without an eyebrow raise from the mods.....

I have no issues with people posting their opinions however stern. I only have issues when some people get targeted for creating conflicts when others don't, who are creating the same conflicts by posting the same stern opinions and degrading all who have a differing opinion.

Some of these same people say responsibility starts at the top. No different than here. Responsibility to have a better forum starts at the top. If mods cant stop from degrading other posters with their opinions, how can they expect the average member?

I call out both sides.

I treat everyone as fair as I can.

Please show me where a mod called someone an idiot. That is not acceptable.

There is no "just joking" exception to the personal insult rule. Then everyone would claim they were just joking. If bodyman wants to call you a racist he can do it privately.

Again, show me where mods are personally insulting people. That is not acceptable.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Lol its funny how people got duped by trump. He is the worst thing to ever happen to this country.

Sucks it took a pandemic for some people to realize this when others realized it when he uttered one word.

You got played. I Will take your apologies though, and I got a buffet of crow for all of you that were wrong.

I mean, duh. Its not even close. Surprised it had to be even asked. Common sense isnt so common i guess.

Not sure what's more hilarious, trump spouting his crap or the trumpers spinning what he says.

Love to see the spin

Now trump claims he was being sarcastic when he talked of disenfectant injections. Didn't stop the trumpers from trying to validate it though. How rich!

I call out both sides.

I treat everyone as fair as I can.

Please show me where a mod called someone an idiot. That is not acceptable.

There is no "just joking" exception to the personal insult rule. Then everyone would claim they were just joking. If bodyman wants to call you a racist he can do it privately.

Again, show me where mods are personally insulting people. That is not acceptable.

Read above. NO not direct.." you are an idiot", but we all know what is being said with the first couple of posts. The last few are simply pointing out nonproductive posts that happen all day every day and gets very little scolding(yes I saw the one that finally came down yesterday I think)

I also read the .. "so bitching about people bitching about people bitching convo"...So I know that will be the response of some.......Lets not forget there IS an origination to most convos that go south. And its pretty easy to pinpoint it in most cases.
Tally them up. See who continues to derail and talk to them.

Its like my boss. I had to talk to him this morning about when he is reprimanding the whole estimating section. Don't reprimand us all without specifics or it leads to confusion as to who is causing issues and who isn't. Pin point the issue and address it directly.


Maybe a suggestion... ask the person the insult is directed at and if they want a post removed, or that person removed, then consider it?

Anyhow. its pretty obvious some can have a louder, ruder mouth than others around here. Some can skate the line more than others around here.

Its tough to take serious a lecture on how to keep it constructive when you read posts like the ones above, some of which are by a mod who is basically saying to the forum, if you support Trump you are an idiot. We know it doesn't say that, but we know it reads that.

Lets not make it a bigger deal than it is. I only made the point in rebuttal to something. Not as some declaration. Ive been around long enough to see and know the trends around here...

 

[ABM]

Anyhow. its pretty obvious some can have a louder moth than others around here. some can skate the line more than others around here...

 

[barfo]

Its like my boss. I had to talk to him this morning about when he is reprimanding the whole estimating section. Don't reprimand us all without specifics or it leads to confusion as to who is causing issues and who isn't. Pin point the issue and address it directly.

Ah, be specific, got it.

Anyhow. its pretty obvious some can have a louder moth than others around here. some can skate the line more than others around here.

Its tough to take serious a lecture on how to keep it constructive when you read posts like the ones above ,some of which are by a mod who is basically saying to the forum, if you support Trump you are an idiot. We know it doesn't say that, but we know it reads that.

There are 8000 posts in this thread, saying 'the ones above' is pretty much the opposite of the specificity you are preaching.

barfo

 

[Orion Bailey]

Ah, be specific, got it.



There are 8000 posts in this thread, saying 'the ones above' is pretty much the opposite of the specificity you are preaching.

barfo

Sigh...The specific posts above in MY post that I quoted. Sorry that wasn't specific enough for you.

I'm pretty sure you are smart enough to know that when someone says the posts above, and had quoted several posts, that's being specific, but I know what I get for assuming and I take fault for not being more specific.

I would also like to thank you for not addressing my point, but instead only trying to make a point of your own.

That would be called deflection.

 

[Orion Bailey]

You sure bitch about others a lot.

Right on cue....

I also read the .. "so bitching about people bitching about people bitching convo"...So I know that will be the response of some.......Lets not forget there IS an origination to most convos that go south. And its pretty easy to pinpoint it in most cases.
Tally them up. See who continues to derail and talk to them.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Here's the unedited post saying we are dumb and also like minorities being disenfranchised. Which was edited pretty quickly.

Then I post this

Here's my response to it being a personal insult. I can go on or you can just ban me now. Who gives a shit?

 

[ABM]

I would also like to thank you for not addressing my point, but instead only trying to make a point of your own.

That would be called deflection.

barfology at its finest.

 

[Orion Bailey]

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Here's the unedited post saying we are dumb and also like minorities being disenfranchised. Which was edited pretty quickly.

Then I post thisView attachment 31042

Here's my response to it being a personal insult. I can go on or you can just ban me now. Who gives a shit?

This. The guy who pinpointed me and lectured about how we can be better posts things like this. The mods okay it.

Body then says see OB, what he is round about calling you? and Body gets banned for an insult, when he was simply pointing out Wizen was the one with the insult.

But see Wizen posts democratic viewpoints and thus, in my opinion gets more leeway to be rude and insulting, like soooo many left wingers.

But the moment a right winger posts back, its a reprimand. or a ban. or.... yeah...

All's fair around here. LOL...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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Here's the unedited post saying we are dumb and also like minorities being disenfranchised. Which was edited pretty quickly.

Then I post thisView attachment 31042

Here's my response to it being a personal insult. I can go on or you can just ban me now. Who gives a shit?

There's no sarcasm exception either, lol.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

No shit Sherlock. You're just a total piece of shit. The TOO SLOW ON THE EDIT is CLEARLY about wizenhemier editing his post.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

There's no sarcasm exception either, lol.

For the last time I didn't call him a racist. I have to be clear about everything I post and make sure stupid people understand the point? Wizenhemier clearly called US racist. Go fuck yourself

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

This. The guy who pinpointed me and lectured about how we can be better posts things like this. The mods okay it.

Body then says see OB, what he is round about calling you? and Body gets banned for an insult, when he was simply pointing out Wizen was the one with the insult.

But see Wizen posts democratic viewpoints and thus, in my opinion gets more leeway to be rude and insulting, like soooo many left wingers.

But the moment a right winger posts back, its a reprimand. or a ban. or.... yeah...

All's fair around here. LOL...

That fucker called US racist. Not the other way around.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

For the last time I didn't call him a racist. I have to be clear about everything I post and make sure stupid people understand the point? Wizenhemier clearly called US racist. Go fuck yourself

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

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[bodyman5000 and 1]

Gas chamber jokes are still three strikes and you're banned right?

Be right back.

 

[Orion Bailey]

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Come on Sly... really???

You dont see it for what it is???

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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And again, others don't see that and will use your post as an excuse to insult others.

"Bodyman called OB a racist, I should be able to call _____ a _____."

There can't be a just joking or sarcasm exception to the personal insult rule. I'm truly sorry that you don't agree with it.

 

[Orion Bailey]

He's a Trump defender. What do you expect?

You too now? really?

HAHA

your very post validated my post.

 

[Orion Bailey]

And again, others don't see that and will use your post as an excuse to insult others.

"Bodyman called OB a racist, I should be able to call _____ a _____."

There can't be a just joking or sarcasm exception to the personal insult rule. I'm truly sorry that you don't agree with it.

So you just ban from the thread instead of discuss and edit?

Sorry you don't see how there are other far worse posts that degrade this place that are accepted all the time.

 

[barfo]

Sigh...The specific posts above in MY post that I quoted. Sorry that wasn't specific enough for you.

I'm pretty sure you are smart enough to know that when someone says the posts above, and had quoted several posts, that's being specific, but I know what I get for assuming and I take fault for not being more specific.

Ah, sorry, I didn't notice that you'd quoted other posts, I only read what you wrote. So, nevermind!

barfo