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It would be surprising if NO is NOT exploring ways to move the draft picks.

Any "leaks" might be coming from the Knicks side of things, or from a 3rd party/team that has been involved in talks.
 
Yeah I doubt Neil would leak that he is actively looking at giving up a draft pick to get rid of a contract. However if he wanted to move Harkless he might leak that NY is interested.....to get other teams to inquire about him. More than likely it is just the NY media making shit up.
 
Mediocre Man said:
We should say no. I'm not sure the player we could get at 8 would be better than the player we could get at 15. Plus we lose 20, which, even if you think is WAY to high, we could take Bell, which would do wonders for us.

Packaging Meyers in another trade can be done
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We could still take Bell at 26. I see your point. Would've thought you would jump at the chance to trade Meyers.
 
BonesJones said:
We could still take Bell at 26. I see your point. Would've thought you would jump at the chance to trade Meyers.
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It is hard to project how these young bigs will turn out, but those who like Zach Collins would get their wish.
 
Interesting "Fanrag" article about the NY/PDX trade talks, from a different unnamed sauce.
Not sure how much credibility Adam Zagoria has, anyone know of him, or Fanrag?
Here are the highlights.

Portland ..... has spoken to every team in the league, “including the Knicks

The Blazers are interested in moving up in what is considered a very strong draft, especially at the top, while the Knicks have interest in acquiring additional picks to boost their rebuild, sources said.

one source said The Sporting News report that Portland was interested in conveying a pick to dump a contract was “erroneous.”

the Blazers are not considering giving up a pick to incentivize moving a player’s salary and haven’t had those discussions with other teams, sources said.

Portland has built through the draft in the past and is “more than willing to add three more young players,” one source said.
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Here is the link if you want to read the entire article.
https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/za...e-for-draft-picks-will-revisit-going-forward/
 
Is there a chance that the Blazers move up to 8 and give up 2 of there first round pick properly 15 and 26 and a player to be name. New York gives up one or both of there 2nd rounds picks.
 
Trackjack said:
Is there a chance that the Blazers move up to 8 and give up 2 of there first round pick properly 15 and 26 and a player to be name. New York gives up one or both of there 2nd rounds picks.
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Probably would take at least #15, #20, and Harkless.
 
oldfisherman said:
Interesting "Fanrag" article about the NY/PDX trade talks, from a different unnamed sauce.
Not sure how much credibility Adam Zagoria has, anyone know of him, or Fanrag?
Here are the highlights.



Here is the link if you want to read the entire article.
https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/za...e-for-draft-picks-will-revisit-going-forward/
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that makes more sense. When they talk about re-visiting talks; I think that means it depends on who is available at #8 and whether either team can find a better deal first.
 
oldfisherman said:
Interesting "Fanrag" article about the NY/PDX trade talks, from a different unnamed sauce.
Not sure how much credibility Adam Zagoria has, anyone know of him, or Fanrag?
Here are the highlights.



Here is the link if you want to read the entire article.
https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/za...e-for-draft-picks-will-revisit-going-forward/
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Don't know about basketball but fanrag hired one of the most plugged insiders in baseball (john heyman) so they're probably legit. Article makes sense too. I've said for awhile that Olshey would get aggressive and try to get into the top 10.
 
Isaac is compared to Rashard Lewis on Nbadraft.net, I wouldn't mind that at 8 and for Harkless if he drops that far.
 
Scalma said:
Don't know about basketball but fanrag hired one of the most plugged insiders in baseball (john heyman) so they're probably legit. Article makes sense too. I've said for awhile that Olshey would get aggressive and try to get into the top 10.
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I'm guessing it's garbage because it says a source said Portland HASN'T had talks with any team regarding it's players, and I was all but vilified for saying the same the thing about Harkless to the Knicks.
 
In other news, who is at 8 that we are targetting? Could they really be after the next great white hype?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
One thing I don't think has been discussed. Who is leaking this info about Harkless and about Portland willing to give up a draft pick? It sure as hell isn't the Blazers; and I'm thinking Olshey is not happy at all about it, especially as it seems to portray the Blazers as desperate. Does somebody have an agenda and what is it? Since Blazer policy is always not to comment; I guess there is not much that Olshey can do about it.
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Olshey doesn't leak locally but he does get things out nationally especially to Woj. That said, if this rumor came from a smaller market like MIL, I doubt we'd hear much about it. It's partially because it is the large market Knicks/Nets.
 
You know what? Give me Carmelo. If it doesn't work out at least we can save money when he opts out.

Harkless, Leonard, Ezeli, #15 and #26 for Melo and KOQ.
 
Carmelo has had some decent stints as small ball power forward. He's no longer that great at beating other wings, but he still has the match-up advantage against most power forwards. His defense has also been a little better at power forward, as I recall. He's strong enough to hold up in the post and his declining athleticism is less of a hindrance. The problem is, he's generally resisted the role in New York. If he was willing to do it in Portland, I'd be somewhat intrigued.

Of course, it's unlikely he'd even want to come here, let alone make a concession like that. I'm not particularly interested in him as a small forward, at this stage in his career.
 
If Mo has hit his ceiling, then I think we can do better by looking at other SF options.
blue9 said:
Another straw man - NOBODY is saying Harkless is elite. But of all the players, he's the only one that you listed (Harkless, Aminu, Turner, Crabbe) whose skill-to-contract ratio isn't negative.

I'm ALL for getting an elite SF, but we're at a point in time where the talent pool at SF/SG is at an all-time low. Harkless, being average, is better than most alternatives. He's our 4th option in the starting unit, and probably our 5th or 6th option overall. Sure, it would be nice to have an All-Star talent as our 4th/5th/6th option, but it's simply not realistic unless you've already made it to the Finals...or at least WCF.
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Sorry, but Mo isn't average as a starter. He's an average bench player.

Our 5th or 6th guy doesn't have to be an all-star, but it would be nice if they were elite (or close to it) at one aspect of the game. Be it rebounding, defense, 3pt shooting, etc.
 
Scalma said:
You know what? Give me Carmelo. If it doesn't work out at least we can save money when he opts out.

Harkless, Leonard, Ezeli, #15 and #26 for Melo and KOQ.
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Hell no. I wouldn't want Carmelo even for free. Let alone give up Harkless and 15 for him. The dude isn't a good NBA player.
 
Denny Crane said:
If Mo has hit his ceiling, then I think we can do better by looking at other SF options.


Sorry, but Mo isn't average as a starter. He's an average bench player.

Our 5th or 6th guy doesn't have to be an all-star, but it would be nice if they were elite (or close to it) at one aspect of the game. Be it rebounding, defense, 3pt shooting, etc.
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As I've always said, I want an elite SF (and/or SG) - dominant wings are generally the easiest way to a championship.

But there aren't many (4) SFs that shoot better than he does - that's pretty nice when your 4th-6th option can shoot 50% from the floor.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/...dGoalPct/seasontype/2/position/small-forwards

Tell me, what SF are we able to get who would be better than Harkless? We're not getting any of the 4 that shoot better than him. We're not getting Kawhi, Hayward, Barnes or Wiggins. We're not getting George or Butler without giving up CJ. We don't have cap space to sign Gallinari, and even if we did do we want to shell out $10M over what we're paying Harkless to get him? So we're looking at:

Ross (no thanks)
Chandler (no thanks)
Harris
Warren

What would we have to give up to get Harris or Warren? If they could be had for some combo of Crabbe/Turner/Aminu/Davis/Harkless, then sure - fire away. If not, then any gain at SF isn't worth the price paid.
 
Scalma said:
LOL.
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He's not at all. Bad defender, bad efficiency from inside the arc, average 3pt shooter, doesn't pass, is on the decline, is a diva.

He's a volume scorer who has worse efficiency, defense and passes less than Rudy Gay.

But keep LOLing or whatever.
 
blue9 said:
As I've always said, I want an elite SF (and/or SG) - dominant wings are generally the easiest way to a championship.

But there aren't many (4) SFs that shoot better than he does - that's pretty nice when your 4th-6th option can shoot 50% from the floor.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/...dGoalPct/seasontype/2/position/small-forwards

Tell me, what SF are we able to get who would be better than Harkless? We're not getting any of the 4 that shoot better than him. We're not getting Kawhi, Hayward, Barnes or Wiggins. We're not getting George or Butler without giving up CJ. We don't have cap space to sign Gallinari, and even if we did do we want to shell out $10M over what we're paying Harkless to get him? So we're looking at:

Ross (no thanks)
Chandler (no thanks)
Harris
Warren

What would we have to give up to get Harris or Warren? If they could be had for some combo of Crabbe/Turner/Aminu/Davis/Harkless, then sure - fire away. If not, then any gain at SF isn't worth the price paid.
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Crowder or Middleton (Crowder is much more likely).
 
BonesJones said:
He's not at all. Bad defender, bad efficiency from inside the arc, average 3pt shooter, doesn't pass, is on the decline, is a diva.

He's a volume scorer who has worse efficiency, defense and passes less than Rudy Gay.

But keep LOLing or whatever.
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Yeah, the 10x all star isn't a good NBA player. Nice take.

On the decline? He had a better season than last year. Average three point shooter? Shot 36% this year and has had multiple seasons of shooting over 40%. Not bad considering how much he shoots, and the type of shots he has to take. There's a difference between a Melo look and a Harkless look. Diva? How?

When he's surrounded by great players (team USA) he very often is the best player on the court. There's value in his "volume" scoring. Not many guys in the league can get you a bucket or take over a game as easily as Melo can. He would open up the offense. If Melo is traded, the team trading for him will be buying low. That's something I can get behind.

Also, it would make Portland more of a destination for veterans. They will want to come here. Melo has that kind of star power/respect. That's worth Harkless and a couple of picks.
 
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