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blue9 said:
Compare, yes. But nobody is saying "we NEED a Sabas". We'd all LIKE a Sabas. But for years, people have thought that Joel is what we need. He's the benchmark - if you aren't as good you suck; if you're better you're great. Sabas/Walton are the high-water mark - not something you can realistically achieve.
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Joel is the bare minimum. A blue collar guy who rebounds, blocks shots, plays defense, and doesn't take shit from anyone. He's a great role player. Not a star. Maybe not even a starter for some teams, but every team would love to have a Joel Przybilla, but he had his flaws. He had no offensive game whatsoever. He had hands of solid rock that couldn't' catch a pass if his life depended on it. The reason why people bring him up is not because he's the perfect center, but because every team can use a guy like that. So if you think he's the benchmark, or the equator (if anyone above is Sabas and anyone below is trash), well..... Is that wrong? He had all of the qualities you want in a role player.
 
I think Roy is an interesting candidate for most "overrated:" Definitely provided an emotional lift to a very down franchise and fan-base, but in terms of actual production, and playoff success (which is where you should measure guys) he doesn't quite measure up to his perception in the minds of many fans.

I say this as someone who liked Roy a lot.

P.s. I would have said LaMarcus, but I don't think he was ever really embraced by most fans -- he was always pretty polarizing and definitely not regarded highly enough to be "overrated."
 
Nikolokolus said:
I think Roy is an interesting candidate for most "overrated:" Definitely provided an emotional lift to a very down franchise and fan-base, but in terms of actual production, and playoff success (which is where you should measure guys) he doesn't quite measure up to his perception in the minds of many fans.

I say this as someone who liked Roy a lot.

P.s. I would have said LaMarcus, but I don't think he was ever really embraced by most fans -- he was always pretty polarizing and definitely not regarded highly enough to be "overrated."
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I think it's funny because people constantly talk about the "warm and fuzzies" in regards to Roy, but it sure seemed like there were reports of him being a bit of a diva in his last couple years. Meanwhile, Dame has been here for five years and from all reports, he's still the same dude that he was when he got here. Humble, great teammate, great leader..... I look at Dame and I see all of the the things that Roy was not.
 
Someone mentioned Travis Outlaw earlier and he's actually a pretty good candidate. He had a stretch around 2007-2008 in the second half of the season where had some big scoring games and he was suddenly being hailed as a breakout star and one of the future foundational players. Except he was never very good, even offensively. His defense was always poor and he had only one season above a 103 offensive rating.
 
Sergio, by a few very vocal posters. The guy was a turnover machine that couldn't make a layup or a jump shot to save his life and couldn't guard a chair. As I predicted, he was out of the league after his rookie contract. He went back to Europe for six years, supposedly improved his jump shot, came back to be a starter on one of the worst teams in the league and promptly lost his starting job to the undrafted T.J. McConnell.

Some here were predicting he'd be the next John Stockton playing for Paul Westphal in Sacramento. Right... Stockton could actually shoot and play defense.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Sergio, by a few very vocal posters. The guy was a turnover machine that couldn't make a layup or a jump shot to save his life and couldn't guard a chair. As I predicted, he was out of the league after his rookie contract. He went back to Europe for six years, supposedly improved his jump shot, came back to be a starter on one of the worst teams in the league and promptly lost his starting job to the undrafted T.J. McConnell.

Some here were predicting he'd be the next John Stockton playing for Paul Westphal in Sacramento. Right... Stockton could actually shoot and play defense.

BNM
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It doesn't really count when the people who are overrating him are trolls.
 
Walter Berry? Not sure he was overrated in the NBA though.
 
Reep said:
Walter Berry? Not sure he was overrated in the NBA though.
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I forgot he played 7 games for Portland before they shipped his ass to San Antonio.

The 86 and 87 drafts were shitty. Walter Berry and Ronnie Murphy. Talk about two colossal wastes of 1st round picks.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think it's funny because people constantly talk about the "warm and fuzzies" in regards to Roy, but it sure seemed like there were reports of him being a bit of a diva in his last couple years. Meanwhile, Dame has been here for five years and from all reports, he's still the same dude that he was when he got here. Humble, great teammate, great leader..... I look at Dame and I see all of the the things that Roy was not.
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I get a weird vibe from Roy tbh.
 
Roy got injured in his prime, how could you call him overrated? He never really had a chance to prove himself.
 
Minstrel said:
Someone mentioned Travis Outlaw earlier and he's actually a pretty good candidate. He had a stretch around 2007-2008 in the second half of the season where had some big scoring games and he was suddenly being hailed as a breakout star and one of the future foundational players. Except he was never very good, even offensively. His defense was always poor and he had only one season above a 103 offensive rating.
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No way it is Outlaw. I remember even during his good years people here hated him and wanted him gone. His decision making was always bashed and people were more than happy when he was gone. He's polarizing like Aminu but swap offense with defense.
 
Five Second Violation said:
Rest his soul, but Kevin Duckworth is my answer. Great guy off the court but on the court he was tissue-paper soft and his woes were a big reason for our choking against the Lakers.
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He was my sister's fav player of all time. I thought he was good too but he was, by modern statistical measures, not very good at all.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Yeah me too.
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Don't you think it's weird that he is just up I-5 but he never visits Portland?

Roy has the feeling of someone who never got over a bad breakup...... and that breakup was with his career. It's almost like the ghost of Roy's career haunts the Rose Garden, and he's afraid to come back and face it.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Don't you think it's weird that he is just up I-5 but he never visits Portland?

Roy has the feeling of someone who never got over a bad breakup...... and that breakup was with his career. It's almost like the ghost of Roy's career haunts the Rose Garden, and he's afraid to come back and face it.
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He just seems like your typical Seattle person that has disdained Portland for some reason or another and played here begrudgingly.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Don't you think it's weird that he is just up I-5 but he never visits Portland?

Roy has the feeling of someone who never got over a bad breakup...... and that breakup was with his career. It's almost like the ghost of Roy's career haunts the Rose Garden, and he's afraid to come back and face it.
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I can understand why he's hesitant to make a return here. Both in the sense that he probably has a boner for all things Seattle, but also there probably is a bit of guilt about how he cost Paul Allen extra money because he refused to accept that he needed to retire (in addition to just the whole way things ended here probably not being how he had envisioned. That's always a bitter pill to swallow).

He'd arguably receive one of the largest and longest ovations from Portland fans, for any former player returning (Sabonis being another).

I don't think his # should be retired, but maybe they should have a "thank you Brandon Roy" night or something instead.
 
Are people really giving Roy shit for liking Seattle more than Portland? He grew up there, it's always going to be home, just like Oakland will always be Dames home.

What do people want him to do? Actively make public appearances when his career is already over? His split wasn't particularly great. It will probably be another few years before they should do a joint appearance.
 
B-Roy said:
Are people really giving Roy shit for liking Seattle more than Portland? He grew up there, it's always going to be home, just like Oakland will always be Dames home.

What do people want him to do? Actively make public appearances when his career is already over? His split wasn't particularly great. It will probably be another few years before they should do a joint appearance.
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I'm not critical of him liking Seattle more than Portland, I like Portland more than Seattle. I was just suggesting possible reasons. (I don't know if you were referencing my post or not)
 
KingSpeed said:
Brian Grant and Sabonis. Neither came to play in Game 7 and no one will call them on it.
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Assume you're talking about the 2000 series.

2003 series.
3 players didn't come to play in game 7.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Danny Young
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Good call. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one around here who is sick of the constant Danny Young love in this forum. Oh sure, he was a good player, but all this talk of retiring his jersey and complaining that he's not in the Oregon Sports Hall of Fame just gets old after a while.

BNM
 
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