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[bodyman5000 and 1]

Mueller's Investigation

199 Criminal Counts
37 people and entities charged
5 people sentenced to prison
7 people pleaded guilty


Nothing to see here people

There are maybe 100 homes in my gated community. Give me 2 years and 50 investigators and I'll find something on someone.

You guys didn't get Trump but you did get @jonnyboy to admit that he at least watched enough Stephen A. Smith to know who he is....HILARIOUS

 

[CupWizier]

There are maybe 100 homes in my gated community. Give me 2 years and 50 investigators and I'll find something on someone.

You guys didn't get Trump but you did get @jonnyboy to admit that he at least watched enough Stephen A. Smith to know who he is....HILARIOUS

What's even more hilarious is thinking that somehow trump is innocent of any wrong doing without anyone even knowing what's in the report. You trumpers sure like to celebrate premature victories.

 

[CupWizier]

First, under Sec. 600.1, the appointment of a special counsel is only triggered when a determination is made that a criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted, when the Justice Department has a conflict of interest, and when the appointment would be in the public interest.

Second, under Sec. 600.3, the investigation must be conducted by a special counsel team with a reputation for integrity and impartial decision-making.

IMO, Mueller blew it by not making sure he had people with integrity and impartial decision making. His team was full of biased lets get him at whatever cost players. He should of cleansed his team from the beginning and appointed those with integrity. How could he not, he knew from the beginning, his investigation was going to be tainted because of some of the characters on his team.

OMG hoopguru, why do you continually buy into trumps bs. I suppose you're going to follow up with "no collusion" and "witch hunt"?

 

[CupWizier]

Based on what has been reported, I submit the following:
Mueller’s Investigation into Collusion by the Trump Campaign with Russians (submitted based primarily on evidence from the “Steele Dossier”) in order to undermine the 2016 election”
199 criminal counts, none dealing with the 2016 election
37 people and entities charged, none dealing with the 2016 election
5 people sentenced to prison, none for the 2016 election
7 people plead guilty, none due to the 2016 election.

While I absolutely applaud those who want to heckle and catcall from the curb/cheap seats and vote him out in 2020, I think we can all put to bed the patently false narrative that Trump’s election was anything more than enough people voted according to the laws of the US to make him President. For that, Robert Mueller, we salute you!

and still counting on indictments.

 

[MarAzul]

Count... Count...

Count... Carry on!

 

[Hoopguru]

OMG hoopguru, why do you continually buy into trumps bs. I suppose you're going to follow up with "no collusion" and "witch hunt"?

No, not at all. For me, I figured if Trump was guilty of any collusion or obstruction Bob Mueller would expose it big time and indict him, as that is what most respected and both sides thought.
I don't care who's President or what party they belong to or race, if there is reason and evidence to prosecute, do it. Nobody in high places should be above the law and I feel Meuller is guided by his findings.
Trump's a slime bag and Im hoping someone will prevail in 2020, just not a radical socialist.
The bigger they are the harder they fall.
I have a feeling there will be others going g to jail within a years time.

 

[riverman]

I've said since the campaign that Trump has a long history of surrounding himself with fall guys...now some are in prison..it's what he's always done..throw people under the bus that he hired and then call them losers...he's the "look at the squirrel" president. I'm not surprised at this outcome for one major reason that guides the country first and foremost...money. Pelosi won't impeach because of the impact on the economy and the cost of a long drawn out impeachment trial...it's basically come down to the fact that it's easier to beat him in the next election than waste more time vetting him at this point..make no mistake..Trump has dirty hands even if they are tiny hands

 

[Hoopguru]

Sounds like you've been watching Fox News again.

barfo

so you don't think there were those in the FBI and Muellers team that were biased?

I don't watch any one cable channel more than another, it's not to hard to determine they are all based and political propaganda. I get tired of the constant battering on both sides.
Mueller was a strong as his weakest link's, imo, he blew by not having the correct unbiased team that exposed themselves as such.
2 freaking years and millions!
My hope is that all crooks in government get caught and prosecuted.
Im 100% for term limits and equal amount of SCJ's.

 

[CupWizier]

Count... Count...

Count... Carry on!

oh they will. and you will still be grumbling.

 

[riverman]

so you don't think there were those in the FBI and Muellers team that were biased?

according to Trump who represents the GOP whether they like it or not the FBI and Muellers team were all dems, losers, sad, crooked and had very low IQs....somewhat biased don't you think?

 

[CupWizier]

No, not at all. For me, I figured if Trump was guilty of any collusion or obstruction Bob Mueller would expose it big time and indict him, as that is what most respected and both sides thought.
I don't care who's President or what party they belong to or race, if there is reason and evidence to prosecute, do it. Nobody in high places should be above the law and I feel Meuller is guided by his findings.
Trump's a slime bag and Im hoping someone will prevail in 2020, just not a radical socialist.
The bigger they are the harder they fall.
I have a feeling there will be others going g to jail within a years time.

But how do you know that trump isn't guilty of anything? Mueller handed off much of the investigation to other departments to follow up and proceed along with many state investigations that haven't been concluded yet.

 

[barfo]

so you don't think there were those in the FBI and Muellers team that were biased?

I don't have any evidence that they were. Do you?

Or are you just biased?

Mueller was a strong as his weakest link's, imo, he blew by not having the correct unbiased team that exposed themselves as such.

Blew it how? Are you saying the results of the investigation are invalid? Or that those indicted are innocent?

2 freaking years and millions!

Investigations of complicated subjects take time. And in fact, the millions spent were offset by the millions recovered from Manafort.

My hope is that all crooks in government get caught and prosecuted.

Do you? Because you were just complaining about an investigation that caught some crooks.

barfo

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Has someone done a wellness check on Fez?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[riverman]

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since Donnie doesn't drink booze that has to be pee in that glass

 

[Hoopguru]

according to Trump who represents the GOP whether they like it or not the FBI and Muellers team were all dems, losers, sad, crooked and had very low IQs....somewhat biased don't you think?

sure it is. I actually look at Trumps conduct (which I don't approve of) and some in the FBI's conduct, separately. With the FBI its my personal opinion that some of them involved in the investigation based on testimony were reckless and biased with some of their communication. For me, nobody is infallible not even those who enforce the law. I have relatives and friends that are cops and homicide detectives and they have said on occasion while visiting with that there will always be corrupt cops and those that are tempted but its almost impossible for them to police each other, so they are usually flushed out through self incriminating evidence that have surfaced through other cases or third parties.

 

[Hoopguru]

But how do you know that trump isn't guilty of anything? Mueller handed off much of the investigation to other departments to follow up and proceed along with many state investigations that haven't been concluded yet.

Oh, I think he probably is of something! I was counting on Mueller to uncover hard evidence. If other agencies find guilt he should be prosecuted.

 

[riverman]

sure it is. I actually look at Trumps conduct (which I don't approve of) and some in the FBI's conduct, separately. With the FBI its my personal opinion that some of them involved in the investigation based on testimony were reckless and biased with some of their communication. For me, nobody is infallible not even those who enforce the law. I have relatives and friends that are cops and homicide detectives and they have said on occasion while visiting with that there will always be corrupt cops and those that are tempted but its almost impossible for them to police each other, so they are usually flushed out through self incriminating evidence that have surfaced through other cases or third parties.

Reality is Trump's entire campaign and rhetoric is one of insult and exaggeration ..it's his only play ...you start a fight with everyone who questions you from the start, this is what you get....someone who has no compass at all...does no homework and is maybe the worst vetter of associates ever to hire someone...that anyone actually trusts this guy is baffling to say the least

 

[jonnyboy]

There are maybe 100 homes in my gated community. Give me 2 years and 50 investigators and I'll find something on someone.

You guys didn't get Trump but you did get @jonnyboy to admit that he at least watched enough Stephen A. Smith to know who he is....HILARIOUS

My impeachment is forthcoming.

 

[Hoopguru]

I don't have any evidence that they were. Do you?

Or are you just biased?



Blew it how? Are you saying the results of the investigation are invalid? Or that those indicted are innocent?



Investigations of complicated subjects take time. And in fact, the millions spent were offset by the millions recovered from Manafort.



Do you? Because you were just complaining about an investigation that caught some crooks.

barfo

There was evidence that several were biased in their communications.
So you don't believe that to be the case from all that has been reported or publicly displayed? None of the testimonies would lead yo to believe so?
I never said the results are invalid to you think the results are invalid?
With regards to those that were indicted, Im glad they were and they broke the law. I never said in my comments that those cases were invalid or innocent. They are guilty as Al Capone.
I also think if there was clear evidence that he found what he was asked to do, he would come forth with it. Do you believe that if Mueler had concrete evidence on what he was asked to investigate he would present it?

Id be interested in your views on the report that nobody has seen.
Could you please provide some feedback of your own. Thanks

 

[barfo]

There was evidence that several were biased in their communications.
So you don't believe that to be the case from all that has been reported or publicly displayed? None of the testimonies would lead yo to believe so?

I guess you must be referring to Peter Strzok/Lisa Page? I don't know of any others on Mueller's team who have had their text messages leaked or have testified.

Political opinion doesn't prove bias. Yes, they said privately that they think Trump is an idiot. As have approximately 200 million other Americans.

Strzok also argued for investigating Hillary more aggressively. Why would he do that if he was 'biased' against Trump?

Neither he nor anyone else in the FBI leaked the existence of the Trump/Russia investigation before the election. If they were in the tank for Hillary, wouldn't they have done so?

If you haven't read the entirety of Strzok's testimony that was released recently, I would urge you to do so. It's pretty interesting, and I think it might change your mind.

I never said the results are invalid to you think the results are invalid?
With regards to those that were indicted, Im glad they were and they broke the law. I never said in my comments that those cases were invalid or innocent. They are guilty as Al Capone.
I also think if there was clear evidence that he found what he was asked to do, he would come forth with it. Do you believe that if Mueler had concrete evidence on what he was asked to investigate he would present it?

Id be interested in your views on the report that nobody has seen.
Could you please provide some feedback of your own. Thanks

Ok - I have no idea what's in the report. I don't really know why Mueller shut down at this point, given that there appear to be numerous investigative threads left ongoing. But maybe the report will clarify that - maybe they've all been closed. Or maybe they feel that the situation is now under control, and so any remaining work can proceed via normal FBI/DOJ channels.

The reason I asked whether you thought the results were invalid is because you said that Mueller 'blew it'. I'm wondering what you meant by that, if the results are unchanged/unaffected.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

No American President should be treated to the level of persecution this President has. This should not be allowed ever again. We have elections to choose the President, we should never undermine this with devious unfounded persecution as plan B.

 

[Chris Craig]

No American President should be treated to the level of persecution this President has. This should not be allowed ever again. We have elections to choose the President, we should never undermine this with devious unfounded persecution as plan B.

Nixon?

 

[andalusian]

No American President should be treated to the level of persecution this President has. This should not be allowed ever again. We have elections to choose the President, we should never undermine this with devious unfounded persecution as plan B.

You know I love your Marzy - but this is about as absurd a statement as there can be - there was clear indication of Russian intervention (there is no doubt about this - as the indictments of multiple Russian agents prove) - not to check that is negligent at best and criminal at worst - the beauty of this democracy is that no-one is above the law - and a proper investigation when there is evidence of tempering is right - if this tempering proves no collusion, great, but not to investigate it is 100% stupid and not American.

 

[MarAzul]

Nixon?

Not the same at all. We had a crime committed. We all knew what the crime was and specifically to whom.
We just did not know how high up the chain of command the criminal was. Although even many Republican knew Tricky Dick was indeed Tricky Dick.
He was not persecuted, he would have been impeach with the evidence of why in clear view to all.
Believe me, it was not the same. In spite of the claims of Democrats, of abundant evidence of collusion by this President, the is no evidence of any crime committed by any one, including the President. Let impeachment begin if there is, but there is not.

However, I am not so sure the trail is so devoid of evidence that people did not collude to bring this President down.

 

[MarAzul]

You know I love your Marzy - but this is about as absurd a statement as there can be - there was clear indication of Russian intervention (there is no doubt about this - as the indictments of multiple Russian agents prove) - not to check that is negligent at best and criminal at worst - the beauty of this democracy is that no-one is above the law - and a proper investigation when there is evidence of tempering is right - if this tempering proves no collusion, great, but not to investigate it is 100% stupid and not American.

No sir! I can not accept your tactics or your apparent misunderstanding.. Yes, perhaps the Russians were attempting whatever, but indictment of Russians does not require a Special Council nor will this ever amount to beans. No one suggest that we not check, although Obama, the President and chief executive officer of the US at the time, apparently did nothing. There was no justification what so ever in attempting attach this aggression to the incoming President. Worse yet, interfere with his Constitutional authority to handle the possible Russian aggression as is the responsibility of the Chief Executive.
The phrase you guy bandy about, "No one is above the law" is pure bullshit. The President is the Chief Executive under the Constitutions and as such, the Chief law enforcement officer in our Republic. Any authority by any other person, must come because the President delegated the authority.

 

[barfo]

Not the same at all. We had a crime omitted. We all knew what the crime was and specifically to whom.
We just did not know how high up the chain of command the criminal was.

There is a pretty clear parallel between the Watergate physical break-in at the DNC, and the Russiagate electronic break-in at the DNC.

Both are crimes.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

There is a pretty clear parallel between the Watergate physical break-in at the DNC, and the Russiagate electronic break-in at the DNC.

Both are crimes.

barfo

What was the result of that FBI investigation?

 

[barfo]

The phrase you guy bandy about, "No one is above the law" is pure bullshit. The President is the Chief Executive under the Constitutions and as such, the Chief law enforcement officer in our Republic. Any authority by any other person, must come because the President delegated the authority.

This isn't a monarchy, no matter how much you wish it was.

Guess you've also forgotten about the usual conservative cry of 'state's rights!'. I'm pretty sure that NY State has law enforcement officers that the President has no authority over.

barfo

 

[barfo]

What was the result of that FBI investigation?

As far as I know the results have not been made public yet.

But my point was, you were complaining that there wasn't a crime to investigate. There was.

barfo