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[Hobbesarable]

@SlyPokerDog and @PtldPlatypus , for what it's worth, I think you guys do a fantastic job moderating the forums.

 

[CupWizier]

FINE!!!!

I will go through and delete every use of Buttercup if it will make you all happy and get you all to finally SHUT UP about this crap. SERIOUSLY!! You all have nothing better to do than to complain about how precisely we apply every iota of every regulation.

You really ought to know that that is not the purpose of a forum or of moderation. I would HOPE that people come here to have enjoyable conversations with other similarly minded people about a subject that we all enjoy, but clearly that is not the case.

I'm sick of your complaining, so if I can end it by getting rid of all the "buttercups", I will.
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Any more complaints--flag them. This is ridiculous.

Now you're going to bow down to a *edited*? WE resolved the issue and dviss needs to mind his own fucking business and quit trying to start shit.

*edited*

Do I need to go through past posts and drudge up shit I found offensive? Hell, I had bodyman mock my unfortunately long deceased mother and posted she must have escaped from the Zombie set at Universal Studios.

I was hoping I was through with this crap but obviously there are a few that like to continue to promote problems and continually instigate.

 

[dviss1]

FINE!!!!

I will go through and delete every use of Buttercup if it will make you all happy and get you all to finally SHUT UP about this crap. SERIOUSLY!! You all have nothing better to do than to complain about how precisely we apply every iota of every regulation.

You really ought to know that that is not the purpose of a forum or of moderation. I would HOPE that people come here to have enjoyable conversations with other similarly minded people about a subject that we all enjoy, but clearly that is not the case.

I'm sick of your complaining, so if I can end it by getting rid of all the "buttercups", I will.
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Any more complaints--flag them. This is ridiculous.

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not.

Now you're upset because folks are upset that the only real rule we have isn't being applied across the board.

That's our fault and we need to "shut up" about it?

Just understand that if you applied the rule evenly we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

 

[Orion Bailey]

FINE!!!!

I will go through and delete every use of Buttercup if it will make you all happy and get you all to finally SHUT UP about this crap. SERIOUSLY!! You all have nothing better to do than to complain about how precisely we apply every iota of every regulation.

You really ought to know that that is not the purpose of a forum or of moderation. I would HOPE that people come here to have enjoyable conversations with other similarly minded people about a subject that we all enjoy, but clearly that is not the case.

I'm sick of your complaining, so if I can end it by getting rid of all the "buttercups", I will.
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Any more complaints--flag them. This is ridiculous.

Man. Not speaking for others but for me, I don't need it deleted. I need the mods to show common sense enough to acknowledge the intent was to be insulting and not let people who do that sidestep responsibility for trying to provoke (Much the same as how HCP and I went round and rounds for a year ans a half). This is where perceived biases come into play. But instead, you question its insult and then get annoyed with the responses.....

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not.

Now you're upset because folks are upset that the only real rule we have isn't being applied across the board.

That's our fault and we need to "shut up" about it?

Just understand that if you applied the rule evenly we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

I didn't say you needed to shut up about it. I said I'm sick of the complainiing because nobody is ever satisfied no matter what we do. So I'm done trying to defend my attempts at diplomacy because you and others will never concede an inch. It's not worth fighting. I don't want to fight with anyone on this board, so I'm not going to. You've outlasted me. You've won. "Congratulations.

BTW, Cup referred to you as "slick" in a post earlier in this thread--I've gone ahead and edited that too, since it was clearly not intended to be friendly. Let me know if anyone unfairly applies any more unwelcome nicknames to you; I'll be all over them.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Man. Not speaking for others but for me, I don't need it deleted. I need the mods to show common sense enough to acknowledge the intent was to be insulting and not let people who do that sidestep responsibility for trying to provoke (Much the same as how HCP and I went round and rounds for a year ans a half). This is where perceived biases come into play. But instead, you question its insult and then get annoyed with the responses.....

Clearly it does need to be deleted. That was articulated very, very clearly.

 

[dviss1]

"Now you're going to bow down to a loud mouth whiner?"

Can't contain himself...

Yeah, Imma need that personal insult...

Moderated...

Folks shouldn't get to personally insult whenever they want.

Apply the rule evenly and chastise those who skirt it evenly.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Now you're going to bow down to a *edited*? WE resolved the issue and dviss needs to mind his own fucking business and quit trying to start shit.

*edited*

Do I need to go through past posts and drudge up shit I found offensive? Hell, I had bodyman mock my unfortunately long deceased mother and posted she must have escaped from the Zombie set at Universal Studios.

I was hoping I was through with this crap but obviously there are a few that like to continue to promote problems and continually instigate.

Yeah, and I still feel terrible about doing it. So much so that I refrained from doing it again when YOU posted the zombie girl pictures earlier.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Now you're going to bow down to a *edited*? WE resolved the issue and dviss needs to mind his own fucking business and quit trying to start shit.

*edited*

Do I need to go through past posts and drudge up shit I found offensive? Hell, I had bodyman mock my unfortunately long deceased mother and posted she must have escaped from the Zombie set at Universal Studios.

I was hoping I was through with this crap but obviously there are a few that like to continue to promote problems and continually instigate.

This is the shit right here Mods, that nobody can stand.

First @dviss1 didnt start this, Cup called him out (out of the blue) and Dviss responded. Cup said he doesn't like it here cause D talks too much shit.

So D defends himself, Like Cup says he is here doing, And Cup calls him a loud mouthed whiner.

Its this complete hypocrisy that causes these conflicts and drags this place down and there is one person responsible for this.

Nuerk got banned for insulting people. Here is Cup doing it again. And again... And again..

It matter not whether the reciever was insulted or not. What matters is intent.

You guys are defending the guy who is causing the trouble and refuses to admit any wrongdoing.

I see in the middle of typing this, Cups post above was edited....

How many insulting edits does he get before he gets banned?

Asking for a friend.......

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Alright Jon, Thats BS. I posted that I wasn't offended. I was't insulted. I don't give a fuck what anyone calls me. I give a fuck if someone is trying to insult me but then denies it playing innocent. That's the BS that everyone here has an issue with. The constant denial of behavior. Its just ridiculous that you mods are saying because I'M offended ,it should be deleted. Context is everything and if it isn't clear he meant it as an insult, then the mods have some learnt to gain.





Again, bullshit. This buttercup crap happen a month or two back too and I made note of it. I was laughed and mocked at by the guy calling me it and the mods didn't do shit. It was clearly meant to be insulting and to try to get a rise out of me. The only thing that gets a rise out of me is guys who cant be honest and own up to thier behavior. Cup is the second person on here who Ive had a long standing issue with for this reason and this reason only. Not because of anything that was said to me or I was called or what not. Its the sidestepping of shit that is shitty around here.

Man up. Own your shit and half the conflicts on here would cease to exist. (Not you Jon, members in general)

Now I'm not calling the mods out together, but if you are going to post crap like that above, I'm gonna call you out on it like anyone else.

I had no doubts my olive branch extension would not be reciprocated in kind, as evidenced by historical behavior, so not only is it rare, in this instance, It didn't even happen. It takes two to tango. It also takes two to make up. I tried. I did my part. I moved on.
But if this shit gets rehashed like it is, lets rehash it accurately, shall we?

Sorry if offended was not the correct term.

Again, I came into this conversation late. I saw a problem, I saw staff addressing the problem, and I saw what I thought was a resolution to the problem.

I ask the staff to be more like firefighters than police. Cup said he wouldn't use buttercup anymore so I thought this fire was put out.

Apparently I was wrong and I apologize for that.

I thought I had read in a different thread you inviting Cup to a game. If I misread that I also apologize. I took that to mean that you were satisfied with the resolution here.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

"Now you're going to bow down to a loud mouth whiner?"

Can't contain himself...

Yeah, Imma need that personal insult...

Moderated...

Folks shouldn't get to personally insult whenever they want.

Apply the rule evenly and chastise those who skirt it evenly.

Already took care of it before you even posted.

 

[hoopsjock]

Personally, I'm more of a fan of not editing posts so that everyone can see a poster's true colors and make their own judgements on the person.

For example, when someone makes a racist tweet, while it is really bad to do so, I'm glad I now know that person is racist.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

How many insulting edits does he get before he gets banned?

Asking for a friend.......

Wish I could tell you. Not my call.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Sorry if offended was not the correct term.

Again, I came into this conversation late. I saw a problem, I saw staff addressing the problem, and I saw what I thought was a resolution to the problem.

I ask the staff to be more like firefighters than police. Cup said he wouldn't use buttercup anymore so I thought this fire was put out.

Apparently I was wrong and I apologize for that.

I thought I had read in a different thread you inviting Cup to a game. If I misread that I also apologize. I took that to mean that you were satisfied with the resolution here.

You did read that and it was a sincere offering that was taken in jest and never responded to. So... who is the issue here?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Personally, I'm more of a fan of not editing posts so that everyone can see a poster's true colors and make their own judgements on the person.

For example, when someone makes a racist tweet, while it is really bad to do so, I'm glad I now know that person is racist.

Yeah, that argument has been made too. I tried to find some middle ground on that one as well (hiding offending material in spoiler tags rather than deleting), but no dice. This is the only thing that is acceptable, and only if we're absolutely perfect in the application.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Spoiler: Insulting Cup post

You are a real piece of work bailey and spew more bull shit tha anyone on this forum. Your olive branch was followed by at least one or two insulting posts. You continually whine about the way you are treated and how unfair the mods are in the OPEN forum for all to see you complain rather than taking things to pm. You have a lot to learn still and you don't offer an olive branch while already planning an insult. I will never go to a game or a function with you involved. You must have forgotten when you announced to everyone that you were leaving the forum and the prior posts of you apologizing to the forum. Heck, I was the one that actually reached out to you to stay in the forum and thought we had things resolved and then a day or two later you pull the same bullshit and start insulting me again. I have had enough of your act.

Yaaawwwn. Admit your shit, or continue to eat it.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Yeah, that argument has been made too. I tried to find some middle ground on that one as well (hiding offending material in spoiler tags rather than deleting), but no dice. This is the only thing that is acceptable, and only if we're absolutely perfect in the application.

I liked that. It ceased to continue a few days later for whatever reason .

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I liked that. It ceased to continue a few days later for whatever reason .

You liked it. Others didn't. I can't win.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Yaaawwwn. Admit your shit, or continue to eat it.

Thank you for quoting that post--I missed it amongst the others.

 

[dviss1]

I didn't say you needed to shut up about it.

Really?

I will go through and delete every use of Buttercup if it will make you all happy and get you all to finally SHUT UP about this crap. SERIOUSLY!!

Sigh...

Don't think we don't appreciate what all the mods do.

But it rubs me the wrong way when I get chastised for something I quit doing 5 months ago (skirting the insult rule by saying "Your post is") and having my post immediate censored and admonished.

 

[CupWizier]

Sorry if offended was not the correct term.

Again, I came into this conversation late. I saw a problem, I saw staff addressing the problem, and I saw what I thought was a resolution to the problem.

I ask the staff to be more like firefighters than police. Cup said he wouldn't use buttercup anymore so I thought this fire was put out.

Apparently I was wrong and I apologize for that.

I thought I had read in a different thread you inviting Cup to a game. If I misread that I also apologize. I took that to mean that you were satisfied with the resolution here.

This is the games he plays sly as he likes to instigate and then play the victim. Their little clique is quit good at segregating this forum as dviss comes in and stirs this shit back up and then bailey comes back in whining once again. This forum can be like groundhog day. I would like to be able to post in this forum without the constant harassment from the few and not have every word scrutinized and people making issues out of it. I see it happening by the same people continuously. They know the games they play.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Really?



Sigh...

Don't think we don't appreciate what all the mods do.

But it rubs me the wrong way when I get chastised for something I quit doing 5 months ago (skirting the insult rule by saying "Your post is") and having my post immediate censored and admonished.

I don't even remember the "clown" post, but I'm sorry that my response to it was offensive. I'll try to do better.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Really?



Sigh...

OK--and I guess I was wrong again. Guess I did say I want people to shut up about the constant endless kvetching about the impossible standard of perfect moderating. Unreasonable to expect, I know.

Sorry--I'm frustrated.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

This is the shit right here Mods, that nobody can stand.

First @dviss1 didnt start this, Cup called him out (out of the blue) and Dviss responded. Cup said he doesn't like it here cause D talks too much shit.

So D defends himself, Like Cup says he is here doing, And Cup calls him a loud mouthed whiner.

Its this complete hypocrisy that causes these conflicts and drags this place down and there is one person responsible for this.

Nuerk got banned for insulting people. Here is Cup doing it again. And again... And again..

It matter not whether the reciever was insulted or not. What matters is intent.

You guys are defending the guy who is causing the trouble and refuses to admit any wrongdoing.

I see in the middle of typing this, Cups post above was edited....

How many insulting edits does he get before he gets banned?

Asking for a friend.......

I don't believe that anyone is defending Cup. Only explaining actions taken or not taken.

Cup gets into a lot of arguments with different people. It's very annoying to members and staff and especially during this exact point in the season it's sucking resources away from other areas of the forum that would benefit more members.

As the person ultimately makes the final decision on whether to ban someone I will say that when I reach out to Cup in private we have some very respectful and constructive conversations. He also talks about the Blazers and is a fan of the team.

Nurklicious was different, I reached out to him multiple times via private message and he ignored them. I also had to close game threads to get him to stop arguing. Closing of threads that confused and frustrated members including yourself. When I re-opened those threads he would just fire the arguments back up again. He would not listen to or communicate with staff. He seemed like he only wanted to argue with people. I counted over 150 posts directly attributed to him and people he was arguing with in one game thread alone.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Do you guys really want the mods to watch you carefully like children and censor your behavior?

I think @SlyPokerDog and @PtldPlatypus are trying their best to keep the forum a place for everyone to have a conversation with the least amount of interference. Maybe I am out of line here, but some of you guys should be able to converse without slights and insults.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You did read that and it was a sincere offering that was taken in jest and never responded to. So... who is the issue here?

Me.

 

[dviss1]

Yeah, that argument has been made too. I tried to find some middle ground on that one as well (hiding offending material in spoiler tags rather than deleting), but no dice. This is the only thing that is acceptable, and only if we're absolutely perfect in the application.

All I'm saying is apply the rule evenly. I hate when my post gets edited personally. And yes I was upset about cup not receiving the same discipline.

Frankly, I'd love it if we let posts stand for what they are.

 

[Dougnsalem]

Yeah, and I still feel terrible about doing it. So much so that I refrained from doing it again when YOU posted the zombie girl pictures earlier.

Woah, buddy. This ignore shit is gonna take some getting used to. I have to assume you're not talking to yourself.... LOL. I like it though! Who's next?!?!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

This is the games he plays sly as he likes to instigate and then play the victim. Their little clique is quit good at segregating this forum as dviss comes in and stirs this shit back up and then bailey comes back in whining once again. This forum can be like groundhog day. I would like to be able to post in this forum without the constant harassment from the few and not have every word scrutinized and people making issues out of it. I see it happening by the same people continuously. They know the games they play.

All I can say is if you are in multiple arguments in multiple threads over multiple days with multiple people then it's not them, it's you.

This is the most fun we've had as Blazer fans in the playoffs for years. I really don't get all the arguing.

 

[dviss1]

This is the shit right here Mods, that nobody can stand.

First @dviss1 didnt start this, Cup called him out (out of the blue) and Dviss responded. Cup said he doesn't like it here cause D talks too much shit.

So D defends himself, Like Cup says he is here doing, And Cup calls him a loud mouthed whiner.

Its this complete hypocrisy that causes these conflicts and drags this place down and there is one person responsible for this.

Nuerk got banned for insulting people. Here is Cup doing it again. And again... And again..

It matter not whether the reciever was insulted or not. What matters is intent.

You guys are defending the guy who is causing the trouble and refuses to admit any wrongdoing.

I see in the middle of typing this, Cups post above was edited....

How many insulting edits does he get before he gets banned?

Asking for a friend.......

This. Cup brought my name into this and I've been defending myself this entire thread.

Cup creates this and we get told to shut up for complaining about it...