Zombie Must draft Kelly Olynyk!!!

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It's funny, I really have nothing invested in whether Gonzaga does well or not, but there was a group of loud and annoying guys at the restaurant last night who were watching the game. They were freaking out any time Gonzaga scored, so I found it fairly hilarious when the Zags choked and were sent packing by Wichita State :rofl:
 
magnifier661 said:
The Hoyas began their 2008 season ranked #22 AP/#18 ESPN, based equally on the reputations of their two upperclassmen, DaJuan Summers and Jessie Sapp, and their recruiting class, led by Greg Monroe.[29] The Hoyas were highly successful in non-conference games (9–2) and saw their ranking rise as high as #9. However, college basketball's toughest strength of schedule eventually wore down a team that was also one of the youngest.[30] The Hoyas were 7–11 in Big East play for a 12th-place finish, followed by a first-round loss in the Big East tournament, the worst record in Thomson's five years at the helm.

Seems like Monroe couldn't lead shit either.
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Except, as it was pointed out earlier, Aldridge actually made an elite 8.

Fail.
 
I don't really equate a college players team success having any bearing on what they're going to do in the pros. If that were the case would you rather have Khalid El-Amin and Mateen Cleaves over Lillard?

Such a stupid thing to even bring up as some kind of point.

Fail.
 
MickZagger said:
I don't really equate a college players team success having any bearing on what they're going to do in the pros. If that were the case would you rather have Khalid El-Amin and Mateen Cleaves over Lillard?

Such a stupid thing to even bring up as some kind of point.

Fail.
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Except, you're the one who tried bringing it up.
 
I was really disappointed in Olynyk's tournament performance. His overall numbers looked good but I thought he looked like he was struggling with the speed of the game and was getting out-athleted a bit. Olynyk moves decently for a big man (and has a nice skillset in general, for college) but he just doesn't have the quick-twitch/explosion that I think someone like him would need to excel in the league. It was especially noticeable (and disappointing) against Southern. I think you need to be more of a bowling ball like Randolph, Millsap, Jefferson, etc. if you're a below-the-room big.

He's a lottery pick this year but only because the draft is so weak.
 
MickZagger said:
Uh, you said he's a perennial loser. I know its hard, but try and stay up on the conversation here.
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It's not wrong to say he's a perennial loser. What exactly has he won in his 3 years at Gonzaga?

And it was such a stupid thing to bring up, then you should have never tried arguing it in the first place.

Or tried bringing up Aldridge's history....which backfired hilariously.
 
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B-Roy said:
He is a perennial loser.

And it was such a stupid thing to bring up, then you should have never tried arguing it in the first place.

Or tried bringing up Aldridge's history....which backfired hilariously.
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I never argued it smart guy. You said he's a perennial loser. Like a teams success has anything to do with how a guy projects in the NBA. Its like your new to this watching sports thing.

I know you try hard, but step up your game its a little weak.

Were you one of those jabroni's that didn't want to draft Lillard because he was a 'perennial loser'?
 
MickZagger said:
I never argued it smart guy. You said he's a perennial loser. Like a teams success has anything to do with how a guy projects in the NBA. Its like your new to this watching sports thing.

I know you try hard, but step up your game its a little weak.

Were you one of those jabroni's that didn't want to draft Lillard because he was a 'perennial loser'?
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Wait a minute! You blame losses on Aldridge. Now that it's on your boi; you got this team concept argument?

So what you are saying is "as long as it works on my argument; it's in play; but if it goes against your argument it's a foul" Got it!
 
MickZagger said:
I never argued it smart guy. You said he's a perennial loser. Like a teams success has anything to do with how a guy projects in the NBA. Its like your new to this watching sports thing.

I know you try hard, but step up your game its a little weak.

Were you one of those jabroni's that didn't want to draft Lillard because he was a 'perennial loser'?
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Aww, is someone getting a little mad?

You spent months pumping the Zags and Olynyk only to have them get bounced in the second round as a 1st seed. For someone who loves tooting their own horn as much as you do, I know it can be hard.

Suck it up, I'm rooting for you!
 
B-Roy said:
Aww, is someone getting a little mad?

You spent months pumping the Zags and Olynyk only to have them get bounced in the second round as a 1st seed. For someone who loves tooting their own horn as much as you do, I know it can be hard.

Suck it up, I'm rooting for you!
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I pumped Olynyk, not the Zags. My thoughts of him as a prospect have nothing to do with how far he went in the tourney.

As far as being mad, I don't get mad chatting with anonymous people on a message board. I'm more pissed about my Zags losing than anything some random troll on an internet forum has to say about them losing.

The Aldridge thing was a serious question I think I was a senior in high school he was in college and I was so pissed about my Zags losing in heartbreaking fashion that year that I vowed not watch anymore of the tournament that year.

But, really if you think your making me mad. You need to step your game up a couple notches.
 
...And as much as they let me down I'll always be Zags fan. Just like how I'm a Blazer fan. I love to be disappointed.

Anybody thats a Blazer fan that talks smack to a Gonzaga fan about being letdowns needs to look in the mirror.
 
magnifier661 said:
Wait a minute! You blame losses on Aldridge. Now that it's on your boi; you got this team concept argument?

So what you are saying is "as long as it works on my argument; it's in play; but if it goes against your argument it's a foul" Got it!
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I never blame losses solely on a player. Link it up.
 
MickZagger said:
I pumped Olynyk, not the Zags. My thoughts of him as a prospect have nothing to do with how far he went in the tourney.
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This is true.

And I agree that Gonzaga losing shouldn't really effect opinions on Olynyk.
 
MickZagger said:
We got a jock rider up in this joint.
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Jock rider? More like acknowledging the quick and easy find after you blindly claimed you never said such a thing.

I can't help that you just dig yourself your own hole. At least admit you were wrong k?
 
magnifier661 said:
Jock rider? More like acknowledging the quick and easy find after you blindly claimed you never said such a thing.

I can't help that you just dig yourself your own hole. At least admit you were wrong k?
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I'm not talking about you.

This other guy. I got a couple old jock straps I got laying around that I can send his way so he can sniff up on them
 
With all said and done; your boi does look good. I was very impressed. FYI
 
dude is crafty for sure, the college game is a scrum in the paint usually and shit never gets called, cant fault a guy for not finishing everything at the rim

i dont see him as a superstar but he will have a long nba career for sure, and at the #12 pick, thats about as good as you can hope for
 
BengalDuck said:
I was really disappointed in Olynyk's tournament performance. His overall numbers looked good but I thought he looked like he was struggling with the speed of the game and was getting out-athleted a bit. Olynyk moves decently for a big man (and has a nice skillset in general, for college) but he just doesn't have the quick-twitch/explosion that I think someone like him would need to excel in the league. It was especially noticeable (and disappointing) against Southern. I think you need to be more of a bowling ball like Randolph, Millsap, Jefferson, etc. if you're a below-the-room big.

He's a lottery pick this year but only because the draft is so weak.
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I pretty much agree with this from only watching him play 3 times this year. He has some skill, but he seems to lack the necessary athleticism to use those skills at the next level. He also seemed to get pushed around a bit too much and I'm not sure he has the strength to play down low in the NBA.

Like I said, I was surprised that he ended up with 26 and 9. I never got the feeling that he was dominating and dictating the game like I would expect an elite big man to do while scoring 26.
 
magnifier661 said:
My bad. Usually those questions and tone from you is normally sarcastic digs. If you were honestly asking a question; then my mistake.
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He was just showing his ignorance on LMA at Texas. Nothing wrong with that at all.
 
blazerboy30 said:
Like I said, I was surprised that he ended up with 26 and 9. I never got the feeling that he was dominating and dictating the game like I would expect an elite big man to do while scoring 26.
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Well he did miss 14 of his 22 shots, (With 4 turnovers) so that may be why you were surprised he scored so much.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Well he did miss 14 of his 22 shots, (With 4 turnovers) so that may be why you were surprised he scored so much.
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Definitely had an off shooting day. He was a 63% shooter from the field going into that game. Something like 3rd in the NCAA for percentage if I recall correctly.
 
Yeah the paint becomes a clusterfuck in college basketball especially during the tourney. Being able to hit the 3 is huge come tourney time. Thats one thing I like about the pro game, is if you got skills as a post player you will have plenty of room to operate.
 
Somebody is hijacking their own thread.

I was actually impressed with Olynyk in the tournament against weak teams, but he still struggled at times in the paint. His size and coordination are nice, though.

Seems like a solid late first-round pick for a good team. I'm not sure he is a "MUST" draft pick for any team, though.
 
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