My gun license proposal (2 Viewers)

[magnifier661]

I want you socialists to put a "gun-free zone" sign in front of your house.

Have fun with that.

I'm not even close to being against people owning guns. I think the responsible gun owners have every right to have their guns. What I worry more about are people owning guns without the proper mandatory safety and training to handle. Also registration, like a car isn't a bad idea. Why are you so against that?

Also, driving a car and allowing an uninsured motorist crash and kill someone with it; you are responsible for damages and possibly the felony count too. Why shouldn't guns be any different?

 

[magnifier661]

oh, right, they kill, or they are for entertainment for hitting targets. And then there's some for hunting. Of course, in hunting, it is killing. SO really, there's target shooting, or death.

Most hunters actually kill for food. So should we make fishing poles illegal too? Maybe we should shut down all the slaughter houses and force everyone to be vegan.

 

[huevonkiller]

oh, right, they kill, or they are for entertainment for hitting targets. And then there's some for hunting. Of course, in hunting, it is killing. SO really, there's target shooting, or death.

Yes they kill the guy about to rob the hell out of you, statistically everything seems to indicate that.

Your scientifically illiterate argument is what I expected, though.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I'm not even close to being against people owning guns. I think the responsible gun owners have every right to have their guns. What I worry more about are people owning guns without the proper mandatory safety and training to handle. Also registration, like a car isn't a bad idea. Why are you so against that?

Also, driving a car and allowing an uninsured motorist crash and kill someone with it; you are responsible for damages and possibly the felony count too. Why shouldn't guns be any different?

Mags, a gun owner is responsible for the guns he or she owns. Even in the hands of others at times. To add yet another tax just for owning one is bullshit, nor do I want taxes on my guitars or any other item that I have already purchased

 

[magnifier661]

Mags, a gun owner is responsible for the guns he or she owns. Even in the hands of others at times. To add yet another tax just for owning one is bullshit, nor do I want taxes on my guitars or any other item that I have already purchased

Yes but a guitar doesn't have the ability to hurt or damage like that of a gun or car.

 

[RR7]

Yes they kill the guy about to rob the hell out of you, statistically everything seems to indicate that.

Your scientifically illiterate argument is what I expected, though.

statistics? please show. scientifically illiterate? what the fuck are you even talking about? Are you just combining words and the idea of statistics to back up an argument? I might not agree with others on the topic, but at least they're able to somewhat argue their position. Statistics show me that.

 

[MARIS61]

So I'm just curious... for those of you who believe that the second amendment is for protection from a tyrannical government, isn't an assault rifle the exact thing that we should be owning? You're not going to do much with hunting rifles if you're intent on protecting your country.

This shows the ignorance of gun control advocates. Automatic and semi-automatic guns are the least accurate and least efficient guns made. Assault rifles like the M16 are even less accurate due to their short barrel.

I do not own any semi-automatic or fully automatic guns at all, nor do I intend to in the future. Were I in a shootout against someone, I'd prefer they had an auto rather than a non-auto, for the advantage it would give me.

Gun control nuts only start with autos when they try to outlaw guns because fewer people have them (so less opposition) the media (huge supporter of gun control) has made them seem scary. The universal goal of all gun control advocates is the complete confiscation of weaponry from American citizens.

 

[huevonkiller]

Yes but a guitar doesn't have the ability to hurt or damage like that of a gun or car.

Your swimming pool should be banned as well.

The problem with these "reasonable and limited" reforms is that they don't stay limited. The solution is to allow people to act like grown ups and determine if they want to allow guns, or to visit places that allow/disallow guns.

 

[RR7]

Most hunters actually kill for food. So should we make fishing poles illegal too? Maybe we should shut down all the slaughter houses and force everyone to be vegan.

I'm fine with people hunting. I just mentioned the death portion because though they're hunting, it's not changing the use of the gun.

 

[magnifier661]

Your swimming pool should be banned as well.

The problem with these "reasonable and limited" reforms is that they don't stay limited. The solution is to allow people to act like grown ups and determine if they want to allow guns on their property.

Never said to ban guns.

And a swimming pools go through a very strict building safety before the city approves BTW.

 

[Denny Crane]

oh, right, they kill, or they are for entertainment for hitting targets. And then there's some for hunting. Of course, in hunting, it is killing. SO really, there's target shooting, or death.

If I wave a gun in your face and tell you to run away as fast as you can, you probably will. Not for killing. Intimidation in this case.

If you come at me with a knife and I pull out a gun, you might consider running away, too. Self defense. Not a shot fired. No killing.

If 2 or more guys come at me with handguns and I want to protect myself, a semi-automatic weapon would be a pretty good choice.

I happen to think (for argument's sake) guns are cool. So I collect them and mount them on the wall. Each is a work of art in its own right. I might not ever shoot any one of them.

In fact, I might buy one for $100 today and sell it for $200 tomorrow. Not a shot fired, and it turned out to be a pretty awesome investment.

Those are off the top of my head. Everyone who owns a gun has their own reasons. FREEDOM. LIBERTY.

 

[RR7]

intimidation and threat of death. IN USE, it has one purpose. but yeah, art is the other reason. And investment. lol

 

[huevonkiller]

Never said to ban guns.

And a swimming pools go through a very strict building safety before the city approves BTW.

Sorry but I don't want regulated pools, that's a waste of taxpayer money. You're not entitled to a nice pool when visiting someone's house, dude.

 

[huevonkiller]

If I wave a gun in your face and tell you to run away as fast as you can, you probably will. Not for killing. Intimidation in this case.

If you come at me with a knife and I pull out a gun, you might consider running away, too. Self defense. Not a shot fired. No killing.

If 2 or more guys come at me with handguns and I want to protect myself, a semi-automatic weapon would be a pretty good choice.

I happen to think (for argument's sake) guns are cool. So I collect them and mount them on the wall. Each is a work of art in its own right. I might not ever shoot any one of them.

In fact, I might buy one for $100 today and sell it for $200 tomorrow. Not a shot fired, and it turned out to be a pretty awesome investment.

Those are off the top of my head. Everyone who owns a gun has their own reasons. FREEDOM. LIBERTY.

Oh nice, you're beasting now. :O

 

[RR7]

Sorry but I don't want regulated pools, that's a waste of taxpayer money. You're not entitled to a nice pool when visiting someone's house, dude.

yeah, building regulations do nothing but waste our money!

 

[Denny Crane]

intimidation and threat of death. IN USE, it has one purpose. but yeah, art is the other reason. And investment. lol

Hanging on the wall for display is IN USE.

http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post.aspx?post=4bb8adad-8b3c-4f4b-8e7e-8844bf30ee08

 

[magnifier661]

This shows the ignorance of gun control advocates. Automatic and semi-automatic guns are the least accurate and least efficient guns made. Assault rifles like the M16 are even less accurate due to their short barrel.

I do not own any semi-automatic or fully automatic guns at all, nor do I intend to in the future. Were I in a shootout against someone, I'd prefer they had an auto rather than a non-auto, for the advantage it would give me.

Gun control nuts only start with autos when they try to outlaw guns because fewer people have them (so less opposition) the media (huge supporter of gun control) has made them seem scary. The universal goal of all gun control advocates is the complete confiscation of weaponry from American citizens.

M16 is one of the most accurate assault rifles made. Where are you getting your information from? Maybe you are thinking of the M4; which is a M16 conversion. The M16 barrel is 14 inches. A common hunting rifle is a .308; which has an 18" barrel. A 30/30 has a 20" barrel. Regardless; 4" isn't as big of a difference as you think. There are sniper rifles from the M16 family SR-22 that has a 17.12" barrel.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Sorry but I don't want regulated pools, that's a waste of taxpayer money. You're not entitled to a nice pool when visiting someone's house, dude.

I wonder what the dath by pool numbers are...

 

[huevonkiller]

yeah, building regulations do nothing but waste our money!

So if I'm building a skyscraper, I want it to collapse?

Economically illiterate argument to me. The property owner will not make money unless his building is sound, pick up a textbook.

 

[RR7]

Hanging on the wall for display is IN USE.

http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post.aspx?post=4bb8adad-8b3c-4f4b-8e7e-8844bf30ee08

of course, hanging on the wall isn't what the second amendment really entails, right? So if it is the freedom under the second amendment, how does art apply to the right to bear arms to form militias and such?

 

[magnifier661]

Sorry but I don't want regulated pools, that's a waste of taxpayer money. You're not entitled to a nice pool when visiting someone's house, dude.

Have you seen my pool? LMAO!

I don't have to swim anywhere else, but at my house. Also, I paid a shit ton of tax for this fucking pool.

 

[Denny Crane]

I wonder what the dath by pool numbers are...

1/3 as many as gun related deaths.

 

[huevonkiller]

The reality is that everything in the world has been privatized with few regulations, houston used to build buldings with almost no regulations at all.

They are completely superfluous.

 

[huevonkiller]

1/3 as many as gun related deaths.

Oh thanks. that's good to know actually.

 

[RR7]

So if I'm building a skyscraper, I want it to collapse?

Economically illiterate argument to me. The property owner will not make money unless his building is sound, pick up a textbook.

sarcasm? Are you for real? You said you don't want pools regulated. Hence my sarcastic post about building regulations. economically illiterate? Seriously am guessingg I'm just being trolled here, or you're just trying to osund like you know what you're talking about when you don't.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

M16 is one of the most accurate assault rifles made. Where are you getting your information from? Maybe you are thinking of the M4; which is a M16 conversion. The M16 barrel is 14 inches. A common hunting rifle is a .308; which has an 18" barrel. A 30/30 has a 20" barrel. Regardless; 4" isn't as big of a difference as you think. There are sniper rifles from the M16 family SR-22 that has a 17.12" barrel.

key phrase here is "accurate assault rifle"

and while on single shot its ok at best, on three round its poor, on an auto setting you are just throwing lead around and making a lot of niose..

This is not from a book..

 

[Denny Crane]

of course, hanging on the wall isn't what the second amendment really entails, right? So if it is the freedom under the second amendment, how does art apply to the right to bear arms to form militias and such?

When, since 1879, have the citizens not had the right to bear arms?

There has been no incident of the government going from house to house in every place in every state in the nation taking peoples' guns because they could simply pass a law banning them.

At no point did the government or the courts decide that a militia was no longer required so the 2nd amendment could be voided out of hand (e.g. without a constitutional amendment).

Sure, the constitution is a living document, right? If you seriously believe this, then none of our rights are safe, period.

 

[magnifier661]

key phrase here is "accurate assault rifle"

and while on single shot its ok at best, on three round its poor, on an auto setting you are just throwing lead around and making a lot of niose..

This is not from a book..

I didnt get it from a book. I am a big military buff. I love the "Stoner" series of guns. It is by far the most accurate assault rifle. The M-14 was a sick assault rifle too.

 

[RR7]

When, since 1879, have the citizens not had the right to bear arms?

There has been no incident of the government going from house to house in every place in every state in the nation taking peoples' guns because they could simply pass a law banning them.

At no point did the government or the courts decide that a militia was no longer required so the 2nd amendment could be voided out of hand (e.g. without a constitutional amendment).

Sure, the constitution is a living document, right? If you seriously believe this, then none of our rights are safe, period.

they haven't passed a law. I get that. Hence the discussion.
And if it's not a living document, why is it not then still just applicable to the white male property owners it was initially written for? Why the need to AMEND it.

 

[huevonkiller]

sarcasm? Are you for real? You said you don't want pools regulated. Hence my sarcastic post about building regulations. economically illiterate? Seriously am guessingg I'm just being trolled here, or you're just trying to osund like you know what you're talking about when you don't.

Fortunately there are already real life examples, I've read a lot more about economics than you and the state has costly regulations.

Your arguments are illogical, for the same reason that plane regulations are illogical. Air traffic control is privatized in Canada because private individuals care about their air planes, we don't need the state to do it.