Politics My libertarian view on banning abortion

[MarAzul]

It's already been shown that capital punishment isn't a deterrent

This might be more true than we would hope. But it surely slams the door on a repeat.

 

[dviss1]

You people in here talking about killing are saying some SICK SHIT... and It belies your Christian belief system as well as your "pro life" stance.

WTF is WRONG with you people....?

This country is full of fucking hypocrites who sacrifice their principles...

I have more morals in my pinky toe than y'all... And I don't need some imaginary sky spirit to formulate them...

Y'all oughta be shamed....

 

[dviss1]

Lots of murderers are put to death by capital punishment...

Are people still murdering?? Hell the fuck yes... Y'all are on some bullshit.

 

[dviss1]

Not trying to argue, just trying to share what the Bible says and what I believe. Not trying to force anything on anyone.

I understand your counterpoints, yet still believe by faith - not blindly. I've done enough study to feel comfortable with the points you have brought up.

I love that you have researched and know the Bible, we have just come to different conclusions.

Fair enough.

 

[dviss1]

Well, besides Congress,
State Legislatures,
Counties,
City Councils.
What else?

Right. They can't make laws that are religion based. Thanks for clarifying that..

 

[dviss1]

Perhaps culls would be a better word for those that need to be eliminated.

I can think of a certain demographic of people you would be happy if they were "culled"....

 

[Stevenson]

I have to disagree. The whole question depends on how far along the woman's pregnancy is.
Obviously killing a child just before birth or during birth would be murder.
It seems clear to me that killing a freshly fertized egg would not be murder.
The answer seems to be somewhere in between. I see our problem as defining where that in between point is.

But that's exactly what Roe does. If you read it, it explains what to do using your exact reasoning.

 

[Stevenson]

Roe says that upon conception, the mother's rights are paramount. Her privacy and body rights trumps the cells in her body. But as the cells mature, the rights begin to switch. Before "viability" (that is, that point when the fetus can live outside the mom's body) mom's rights are paramount, but upon viability, about 20 weeks, the state can begin to enforce the rights of the fetus.

That seems eminently sensible.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Lanny]

lots of people deserve execution.

some deserve torture.

That says something about you but nothing about the culprit.

 

[Lanny]

But that's exactly what Roe does. If you read it, it explains what to do using your exact reasoning.

I'm a supporter of Roe v. Wade.

 

[jonnyboy]

Alabama actually has the single highest graduation rate of all 50 states. I just read that the other day and was surprised. Maybe they just pass everyone? I wonder what that lady’s metric is for quality of public education?

 

[GhostOfPGA]

I’m pro-life but it would be un-American of me to flat out want a medical procedure outlawed. I think restrictions should be put in place, like only can take place within the first trimester unless some crazy circumstances come up. I think the NY Bill was absolutely disgusting.

 

[GhostOfPGA]

Alabama actually has the single highest graduation rate of all 50 states. I just read that the other day and was surprised. Maybe they just pass everyone? I wonder what that lady’s metric is for quality of public education?

Maybe different (lower level) curriculum? Idk, Alabama gets a lot of shit but god damn do they pump out great football teams lol

 

[Lanny]

Alabama actually has the single highest graduation rate of all 50 states. I just read that the other day and was surprised. Maybe they just pass everyone? I wonder what that lady’s metric is for quality of public education?

My father went to public school in Alabama. Yes, they pretty much pass everyone.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Each abortion should be looked at and investigated prior to allowing.

Was there consent by the female to have intercourse? NO? Abortion should be allowed( Meaning she was raped)

Are there health complications arising that could threaten the mother's life? If so, then abortion should be allowed.

There might be one or two other reasons that might be valid, but most everything else should not be, as it was the choice of the two to have sex and now must bare the responsibilities. There are still choices, like giving the baby up for adoption, and there are many couples willing, able, and wanting a new born.

 

[MARIS61]

Jim Carrey's pro-abortion tweet backfires: 'You blessed the pro-life movement with this'

By Caleb Parke | Fox News

Actor Jim Carrey's latest tweet took a shot at Alabama's new abortion law, but it seemed to backfire, drawing praise from pro-lifers instead.

The "Dumb and Dumber" star tweeted an image Saturday of his artwork depicting Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey, who signed one of the strictest anti-abortion laws in the nation, as a fully formed preborn baby being aborted from the womb.



"I think If (sic) you're going to terminate a pregnancy, it should be done sometime before the fetus becomes Governor of Alabama," Carrey wrote.

The politically charged depiction garnered some unlikely responses from the right.

"Thank you for the truly accurate (and therefore horrifying) portrayal of abortion... sucking out the brains of a PERSON because that person is inconvenient to you. You blessed the pro-life movement with this," Liz Wheeler, OANN host, commented.

"This is a pretty great depiction of an abortion: clinically accurate, and wiping out an individual human life," conservative commentator Ben Shapiro wrote.

Obianuju Ekeocha, founder of The Culture of Life Africa, added: "At least you seem to know how grisly an abortion is. Your image is accurate down to the abortionist’s cannula suctioning out the brain matter of the fetus, sort of like a serial killer at work...you do know what an abortion looks like. Bravo!"

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, also slammed Carrey, calling the painting "vicious" and "angry."

A representative from Twitter told Fox News the company is "not able to comment on individual user accounts."

Twitter states in its rules under "hateful conduct" that the company will permanently suspend any account that includes a "violent threat...incites fears, or reduces someone to less than human," and under "glorification of violence," a user will be suspended for "specific threats of violence or wishing for serious physical harm, death, or disease to an individual or group of people."

 

[MARIS61]

Funny how the people who want to wipe out Roe v Wade, a long standing law, flip their shit if you even mention the second amendment being outdated. Yeah yeah they’re different. Laws and constitutional rights blah blah

Roe vs Wade is not a law, nor is it long-standing.

It is a 1973 SCOTUS decision, and has been modified/amended since then by a 1992 SCOTUS decision:

In 1992, the Supreme Court revisited and modified its legal rulings in Roe in the case of Planned Parenthood v. Casey.[12] In Casey, the Court reaffirmed Roe's holding that a woman's right to abort a nonviable fetus is constitutionally protected, but abandoned Roe's trimester framework in favor of a standard based on fetal viability, and overruled Roe's requirement that government regulations on abortion be subjected to the strict scrutiny standard.[2][13] The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."[14] Justices in Casey acknowledged that viability may occur at 23 or 24 weeks, or sometimes even earlier, in light of medical advances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

 

[dviss1]

Mic DROP.

 

[Lanny]

Jim Carrey's pro-abortion tweet backfires: 'You blessed the pro-life movement with this'

By Caleb Parke | Fox News

Actor Jim Carrey's latest tweet took a shot at Alabama's new abortion law, but it seemed to backfire, drawing praise from pro-lifers instead.

The "Dumb and Dumber" star tweeted an image Saturday of his artwork depicting Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey, who signed one of the strictest anti-abortion laws in the nation, as a fully formed preborn baby being aborted from the womb.

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"I think If (sic) you're going to terminate a pregnancy, it should be done sometime before the fetus becomes Governor of Alabama," Carrey wrote.

The politically charged depiction garnered some unlikely responses from the right.

"Thank you for the truly accurate (and therefore horrifying) portrayal of abortion... sucking out the brains of a PERSON because that person is inconvenient to you. You blessed the pro-life movement with this," Liz Wheeler, OANN host, commented.

"This is a pretty great depiction of an abortion: clinically accurate, and wiping out an individual human life," conservative commentator Ben Shapiro wrote.

Obianuju Ekeocha, founder of The Culture of Life Africa, added: "At least you seem to know how grisly an abortion is. Your image is accurate down to the abortionist’s cannula suctioning out the brain matter of the fetus, sort of like a serial killer at work...you do know what an abortion looks like. Bravo!"

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, also slammed Carrey, calling the painting "vicious" and "angry."

A representative from Twitter told Fox News the company is "not able to comment on individual user accounts."

Twitter states in its rules under "hateful conduct" that the company will permanently suspend any account that includes a "violent threat...incites fears, or reduces someone to less than human," and under "glorification of violence," a user will be suspended for "specific threats of violence or wishing for serious physical harm, death, or disease to an individual or group of people."

Do people read your posts anymore? Just to satisfy your curiosity, no, I didn't read this post of yours.