Myers Lenard is Not a Project

[Mediocre Man]

What does that have to do with anything?

Plus, Kwame's Brown's career PER is lower than Myrs', and was lower his rookie season, and only Eddy Curry's was higher. Curry then got a near-max contract after his rookie deal.

The amazing thing is that of Brown/Mihm/Curry/Lynyrd, only Myrs has a net positive in Ortg/Drtg as a rookie.

Brown -9
Curry -4
Mihm -8
Lynyrd +6

I'm not sure what happens on this board at times, but really, it does get a bit embarrassing when the same people are shown the same stats over and over, yet they continue to ignore them, and even double-down on their clearly biased opinion.

he was talking about points/rebounds and such. So you decide to post a different stat

 

[zonasotahomer]

he never was very good in college

 

[Further]

I am squarely in the 'Leonard will be very good' camp, but my girlfriend keeps saying that he looks stupid. She works with autistic kids, so it's even funnier in context. She walked in the room and asked "how's the **** tonight?"

 

[PapaG]

I am squarely in the 'Leonard will be very good' camp, but my girlfriend keeps saying that he looks retarded. She works with autistic kids, so it's even funnier in context. She walked in the room and asked "how's the tard tonight?"

Well, that's not very comforting in terms of the care of our autistic/developmentally disabled kids.

You're joking, right?

 

[Further]

Well, that's not very comforting in terms of the care of our autistic/retarded kids.

You're joking, right?

She is very caring and has devoted herself to helping children with challenges. But, she has a dark sense of humor. She would never say such a thing when anyone was around who could be offended, I too have a dark sense of humor, so it's a good match. Never actual bad feelings, just evil phrasings o make each other laugh.

It's a way to release also, she is so emotionally involved with her kids.

 

[PapaG]

She is very caring and has devoted herself to helping children with challenges. But, she has a dark sense of humor. She would never say such a thing when anyone was around who could be offended, I too have a dark sense of humor, so it's a good match. Never actual bad feelings, just evil phrasings o make each other laugh.

No, I get it, and you have to have an outlet when you deal with that sort of thing each day. I'm just not sure you should have shared that here.

Myrs comes across as a pretty bright guy when he's interviewed.

 

[Further]

I think I will not speak of her again, she would be pissed if she knew I repeated her joke that was meant for just me.

 

[Further]

No, I get it, and you have to have an outlet when you deal with that sort of thing each day. I'm just not sure you should have shared that here.

Myrs comes across as a pretty bright guy when he's interviewed.

It came about from a missed defensive assignment, he hung his head a made a face very similar to a particular boy.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

he was talking about points/rebounds and such.

what is impressive is the fact that he is shooting 55% with those stats, kwame shot .429 mihm .440

 

[PapaG]

what is impressive is the fact that he is shooting 55% with those stats, kwame shot .429 mihm .440

Lynryd is a stiff. Sign Chris Mihm.

 

[RoyToy]

he never was very good in college

Yeah, even in college at 7-1 his rebounding was pretty meh when you consider his height advantage. Mediocre rebounding is not a trait I want my center to have.

Btw, anyone catch Rice talking about Leonard's defense last night? There was a play I guess where a defender basically shot a layup right under Leonard's arm and Rice said Terry Stotts just turned the other way and shook his head. I think the Blazers know Meyers Leonard is very, very, very far away from being a NBA defender.

I'd be more optimistic about him, but I think his style is to be more of a soft player that is likes to play away from the basket. He'd be a good center for a Mike D'Antoni team.

 

[mook]

Miles Leotard will one day lead the league in scoring among centers. truf.

 

[mook]

BTW, I think there's a quantum element in Leonard Mayer. Simply by observing Mylon, you change his state. He doesn't have a nickname so much as a sphere of possibilities.

 

[Further]

BTW, I think there's a quantum element in Leonard Mayer. Simply by observing Mylon, you change his state. He doesn't have a nickname so much as a sphere of possibilities.

It's the medias fault, every opponents shot is blocked and not blocked until the media examines it. If we turned off all cameras and made everyone face away, he would be both the best and worst shot blocker in history.

 

[MickZagger]

popcorn, pickles and pepsi.

 

[Sinobas]

Myles Lynheard really sticks at defense. Though he's improved from the beginning of the season, where he was getting abused 1 on 1 in he post. But he rarely blocks, or even affects shots in the paint.

He's such a good shooter though, I wonder why the Blazers don't let him take more outside shots? If he's not scoring, you may as well have a small forward playing center.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I am anxious to see how his offense looks when teams pretend to pay attention to him

 

[Rhal]

Myles Lynheard really sticks at defense. Though he's improved from the beginning of the season, where he was getting abused 1 on 1 in he post. But he rarely blocks, or even affects shots in the paint.

He's such a good shooter though, I wonder why the Blazers don't let him take more outside shots? If he's not scoring, you may as well have a small forward playing center.

He is really passive, even when he gets an open shot a lot of times he looks to pass the ball. He is intimidated on both sides of the court which hopefully will go away with time.

 

[Blazinaway]

2 words: GORGUI DIENG

 

[BlazerCaravan]

2 words: GORGUI DIENG

Neither of those look like words to me.

 

[Mediocre Man]

experie

2 words: GORGUI DIENG

If they deal Leonard for an expeienced center, I would be thrilled to get Dieng somehow

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I am anxious to see how his offense looks when teams pretend to pay attention to him

Ooh yeah, and everyone else's once they are preoccupied with nards, should open it up for the other guys. Good point.

 

[magnifier661]

He is really passive, even when he gets an open shot a lot of times he looks to pass the ball. He is intimidated on both sides of the court which hopefully will go away with time.

Yeah he's still so young. He is passive; but he's at an elite level now and overwhelmed. Not many rookie bigs come out amazing like shaq. Marc Gasol needed 3 years before he became as good as he is now.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Yeah he's still so young. He is passive; but he's at an elite level now and overwhelmed. Not many rookie bigs come out amazing like shaq. Marc Gasol needed 3 years before he became as good as he is now.

Marc was better as a rookie than Meyers, but he was also 24 with several years experience playing professionally in the best leagues in Europe.

BNM

 

[magnifier661]

Marc was better as a rookie than Meyers, but he was also 24 with several years experience playing professionally in the best leagues in Europe.

BNM

True but he was hardly as good as he is now. You can tell that Leonard looks lost and the speed of the nba is getting the better of him. With some experience and summer work outs; he could, at worst, be a competent defender and rebounder. I are his offensive game improving too.

 

[oldmangrouch]

The problem with Lynyrd is not that he makes rookie mistakes.

The real issue is that he plays like a bad euro big. Soft, no nose for the ball, no defensive instincts. When I hear people talk about how he can be an effective shooter from 15'.....I just cringe. We need a *center*, not an over-sized stretch 4 to back up LMA.

 

[PapaG]

The problem with Lynyrd is not that he makes rookie mistakes.

The real issue is that he plays like a bad euro big. Soft, no nose for the ball, no defensive instincts. When I hear people talk about how he can be an effective shooter from 15'.....I just cringe. We need a *center*, not an over-sized stretch 4 to back up LMA.

From the 11 spot in the draft, though, what would be wrong with a 7'1" back-up PF? Myrs has already shown he has NBA skills in his mid-range game. Look at other 11th picks the last 30 years and tell me what should be expected drafting at that spot. Lynyrd is already a better NBA player than Cole Aldrich, the last center picked in his spot.

11th Overall NBA Draft Picks
Year Player Drafted From Drafted By
2012 Meyers Leonard Illinois Portland
2011 Klay Thompson Washington St. Golden State
2010 Cole Aldrich Kansas New Orleans
2009 Terrence Williams Louisville New Jersey
2008 Jerryd Bayless Arizona Indiana
2007 Acie Law Texas A&M Atlanta
2006 JJ Redick Duke Orlando
2005 Fran Vazquez Spain 1983 Orlando
2004 Andris Biedrins Latvia 1986 Golden State
2003 Mickaël Pietrus France 1982 Golden State
2002 Jared Jeffries IndianaSo. Washington
2001 Kedrick Brown Okaloosa-Walton CC So. Boston
2000 Jerome Moiso UCLA So. Boston
1999 Trajan Langdon Duke Sr. Cleveland
1998 Bonzi Wells Ball State Detroit
1997 Olivier Saint-Jean San Jose State Sacramento
1996 Todd Fuller North Carolina State Golden State
1995 Gary Trent Ohio University Milwaukee
1994 Carlos Rogers Tennessee State Seattle
1993 Allan Houston Tennessee Detroit
1992 Robert Horry Alabama Houston
1991 Terrell Brandon Oregon Cleveland
1990 Tyrone Hill Xavier (Ohio) Golden State
1989 Nick Anderson Illinois Orlando
1988 Will Perdue Vanderbilt Chicago
1987 Reggie Miller UCLA Indiana
1986 John Salley Georgia Tech Detroit
1985 Keith Lee MemphisState Chicago
1984 Kevin Willis Michigan State Atlanta
1983 Derek Harper Illinois Dallas
1982 Lafayette Lever Arizona State Portland
1981 Frank Johnson Wake Forest Washington
1980 Kiki Vandeweghe UCLA Dallas

http://www.mynbadraft.com/nba-draft-picks/11th-overall/110509/

 

[PapaG]

So unless I'm totally missing someone, there hasn't been an NBA All-Star drafted at #11 since Allen Houston 20 years ago, and very few impact starters.

 

[julius]

So unless I'm totally missing someone, there hasn't been an NBA All-Star drafted at #11 since Allen Houston 20 years ago, and very few impact starters.

I get what you're getting at, but i hate that "players taken at X spot have never been Y" etc..

At the 6th spot, there hasn't exactly been a dearth of talent their.

 

[julius]

that link got me interested in looking the page some.

check out the #3 pick (and kudos to anyone who notices whats wrong with it)

year, players, school, drafted by
2012 Bradley Beal Florida Washington
2011 Enes Kanter Kentucky Utah
2010 Derrick Favors Georgia Tech New Jersey
2009 James Harden Arizona State Oklahoma
2008 O.J. Mayo USC Minnesota
2007 Al Horford Florida Atlanta
2006 Adam Morrison Gonzaga Portland
2005 Deron Williams Illinois Jr. Utah
2004 Ben Gordon UConn Jr. Chicago
2003 Carmelo Anthony Syracuse Fr. Denver
2002 Mike Dunleavy Duke Jr. Golden State
2001 Pau Gasol Spain Memphis
2000 Darius Miles HSSr. LA Clippers
1999 Baron Davis UCLA So. NO Hornets
1998 Raef LaFrentz Kansas Denver
1997 Chauncey Billups Colorado Boston
1996 Shareef Abdur-Rahim California Vancouver
1995 Jerry Stackhouse North Carolina Philadelphia
1994 Grant Hill Duke Detroit
1993 Anfernee Hardaway MemphisState Golden State
1992 Christian Laettner Duke Minnesota
1991 Billy Owens Syracuse Sacramento
1990 Chris Jackson Louisiana State Denver
1989 Sean Elliott Arizona San Antonio
1988 Charles Smith Pittsburgh Philadelphia
1987 Dennis Hopson Ohio State New Jersey
1986 Chris Washburn North Carolina State Golden State
1985 Benoit Benjamin Creighton LA Clippers
1984 Michael Jordan North Carolina Chicago
1983 Rodney McCray Louisville Houston
1982 Dominique Wilkins Georgia Utah
1981 Buck Williams Maryland New Jersey
1980 Kevin McHale Minnesota Boston