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kjironman1 said:
Current events have people getting arrested and being convicted of a crime. I got the reference just fine.
The kid worked hard. Just don’t like people being off handed about that kind of effort.
There was little “Humorous “ about calling him a cheat.
Just my take on it. Apologies if it struck you wrong.
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YOU called him a cheat in his defense. I just responded non-seriously to your comment that it can't be done. Don't be such a snowflake.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I think he has a better handle then Jake too. I think one of the most important things a floor spacer needs is the ability to put the ball on the floor and go around a defender. It slows down the close out of the defender, keeps them on their feet, it changes a lot.
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The nice thing too is that he has the body to absorb contact and draw fouls. Lots of and one opportunities and free throws. Plus good free throw shooter.
 
Paine Tablet said:
The nice thing too is that he has the body to absorb contact and draw fouls. Lots of and one opportunities and free throws. Plus good free throw shooter.
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Maybe once the refs start giving him the fouls, I expect that will be one aspect of the game that frustrates him(and us).
 
After watching him play on TV few minutes ago I went on Carolina games this year. Now offensively he very good but awareness on D not so much. Help defense very poor. Little is has only one speed on offensive and defensive. If he going to see the floor this year he needs learn the defensive side of the ball. Maybe it just Carolina defense too due I wasn't to impress with there team defense overall it looked like they try to outscore everyone that might have something to do with Little defensive.
 
James lamphear said:
After watching him play on TV few minutes ago I went on Carolina games this year. Now offensively he very good but awareness on D not so much. Help defense very poor. Little is has only one speed on offensive and defensive. If he going to see the floor this year he needs learn the defensive side of the ball. Maybe it just Carolina defense too due I wasn't to impress with there team defense overall it looked like they try to outscore everyone that might have something to do with Little defensive.
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You can watch NC vs Duke full games from Feb 21 (where Zion's shoe fell apart at the beginning of the game) on Youtube

here:

and the March 9 game here:
 
handiman said:
YOU called him a cheat in his defense. I just responded non-seriously to your comment that it can't be done. Don't be such a snowflake.
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WTF???
Do you really want me to go back and post this shit the way YOU fucking said it?
handiman said:
Well, SAT scores and athletic scholarships can be bought...
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That was not in green. That was not a joke.
You are wrong here. You didn't even fill in Ha Ha or a frilly fucking picture.
YOU implied that the kid did not work to get good grades and that he could have bought them on his parents "Military" salary.
Now i'm ex military and believe me when i tell you that they didn't have the kind of money to "BUY" his scholarships or SAT scores.

My advice to you is to let this go and just stop. The kid deserves more respect than what you are giving him. At least at this point.

I have already apologized if my response struck you wrong. Don't even think i will again. I will end up hurting your fucking feelings.

Enjoy your evening.
 
blazerfan11 said:
You can watch NC vs Duke full games from Feb 21 (where Zion's shoe fell apart at the beginning of the game) on Youtube

here:

and the March 9 game here:
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I watched the 1st one on ESPNU today and then went digging on the net of Carolina games.
 
kjironman1 said:
WTF???
Do you really want me to go back and post this shit the way YOU fucking said it?


That was not in green. That was not a joke.
You are wrong here. You didn't even fill in Ha Ha or a frilly fucking picture.
YOU implied that the kid did not work to get good grades and that he could have bought them on his parents "Military" salary.
Now i'm ex military and believe me when i tell you that they didn't have the kind of money to "BUY" his scholarships or SAT scores.

My advice to you is to let this go and just stop. The kid deserves more respect than what you are giving him. At least at this point.

I have already apologized if my response struck you wrong. Don't even think i will again. I will end up hurting your fucking feelings.

Enjoy your evening.
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I rep 98% of this post. Almost perfectly said. The "I will hurt your feelings" is corny though.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Im confused.

So the idea is that Little can help as an alley oop threat in the open court. My thought was Layman does that too.

Are you saying Layman doesnt see the floor well so he’s not an alley oop threat?
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Layman is white.

White people can't jump.
 
blazerfan11 said:
You can watch NC vs Duke full games from Feb 21 (where Zion's shoe fell apart at the beginning of the game) on Youtube

here:

and the March 9 game here:
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Thanks for the games. I see he bit better on defense what I thought but college game is more screening a way then the pros. Pros have away screening but most teams are not very good at it so that shouldn't be problem at this level. But still has worked to do at that end.
 
now that the dust has settled a bit from the draft, a few things are clearer: one is that taking Little at 25 was a no-brainer. The reason he had been rated so highly was because of his athleticism and his showing in competition against other high school talent. The odds were stacked against Portland finding anybody who would help much next season or the season after. In fact, there's only about a 35% chance that a player taken at 25 will even average more than 10 total points+rebounds+assists

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

Portland had an opportunity to swing for the fences and they took it. That's as good a use of #25 as any, and better that most

but the reasons Little fell to 25 are legitimate. There are major questions about his shooting, and that's an NBA red flag for a perimeter player. He doesn't have good handles and he averaged twice as many turnovers as assists. He's a project and while that's always been acceptable and can work for a young big man, project wings fail a lot more than they succeed.

The comparison to Gerald Wallace, in college, seems close. They were both bench players who averaged 9.8 points. Wallace averaged more rebounds, but he shot a lot worse from three and the FT line. But Wallace had an incredible motor and there are apparently some questions about Little's motor. I'm not really buying that and maybe it was just his situation at NC, but we just don't know at this point.

The good news is that Little has a much higher ceiling than most players taken that late in the draft. The bad news is that as a hyper-athletic project wing, history suggests Little might be more likely to end up like a poor man's Jerome Kersey than a Gerald Wallace.
 
Scalma said:
Hold up that jersey already
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wizenheimer said:
now that the dust has settled a bit from the draft, a few things are clearer: one is that taking Little at 25 was a no-brainer. The reason he had been rated so highly was because of his athleticism and his showing in competition against other high school talent. The odds were stacked against Portland finding anybody who would help much next season or the season after. In fact, there's only about a 35% chance that a player taken at 25 will even average more than 10 total points+rebounds+assists

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

Portland had an opportunity to swing for the fences and they took it. That's as good a use of #25 as any, and better that most

but the reasons Little fell to 25 are legitimate. There are major questions about his shooting, and that's an NBA red flag for a perimeter player. He doesn't have good handles and he averaged twice as many turnovers as assists. He's a project and while that's always been acceptable and can work for a young big man, project wings fail a lot more than they succeed.

The comparison to Gerald Wallace, in college, seems close. They were both bench players who averaged 9.8 points. Wallace averaged more rebounds, but he shot a lot worse from three and the FT line. But Wallace had an incredible motor and there are apparently some questions about Little's motor. I'm not really buying that and maybe it was just his situation at NC, but we just don't know at this point.

The good news is that Little has a much higher ceiling than most players taken that late in the draft. The bad news is that as a hyper-athletic project wing, history suggests Little might be more likely to end up like a poor man's Jerome Kersey than a Gerald Wallace.
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This is probably all completely fair. Unmentioned, however, is the culture and context into which a lot of those project wings entered the league. It's not hard to predict that many/most of them came into situations worse than ours in terms of room to develop, grow and learn. As much as we all hate on ET, Moe and Aminu, those guys are all big parts of the team culture and (assuming they're around this next season) will be influential in both helping Little along as well as buying him time to learn the ropes before the pressure is on.

Also unmentioned is the situation he was in in college. I genuinely think he was misused at UNC and as a result, somewhat hidden (as a prospect). I've seen quite a few scouting reports of Little projecting him to be somewhat of a role player if/when he develops, but in watching his HS film, watching him shut down Zion, be the McD's MVP... he's got alpha qualities and is more of a baller than a guy that you'd kind of just fit into your system... I'm not saying he's the next Kawhi Leonard or Vince Carter, but I see a guy with a lot of qualities that can go out and get buckets and make stops on defense. Someone gave a Derozan comp and I like that a lot.
 
wizenheimer said:
He doesn't have good handles and he averaged twice as many turnovers as assists.
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Maybe this is nitpicking but a low/negative assist to turnover ratio doesn't mean he can't have good handles. In videos I've seen outside of UNC games he appears to have rather nice handles.
 
@ThePosterFormerlyKnownAsTheHCP said:
Buy this Rook a pink backpack and just get his ass down to summer league already. I need someone to carry my bags next year!
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wizenheimer said:
now that the dust has settled a bit from the draft, a few things are clearer: one is that taking Little at 25 was a no-brainer. The reason he had been rated so highly was because of his athleticism and his showing in competition against other high school talent. The odds were stacked against Portland finding anybody who would help much next season or the season after. In fact, there's only about a 35% chance that a player taken at 25 will even average more than 10 total points+rebounds+assists

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

Portland had an opportunity to swing for the fences and they took it. That's as good a use of #25 as any, and better that most

but the reasons Little fell to 25 are legitimate. There are major questions about his shooting, and that's an NBA red flag for a perimeter player. He doesn't have good handles and he averaged twice as many turnovers as assists. He's a project and while that's always been acceptable and can work for a young big man, project wings fail a lot more than they succeed.

The comparison to Gerald Wallace, in college, seems close. They were both bench players who averaged 9.8 points. Wallace averaged more rebounds, but he shot a lot worse from three and the FT line. But Wallace had an incredible motor and there are apparently some questions about Little's motor. I'm not really buying that and maybe it was just his situation at NC, but we just don't know at this point.

The good news is that Little has a much higher ceiling than most players taken that late in the draft. The bad news is that as a hyper-athletic project wing, history suggests Little might be more likely to end up like a poor man's Jerome Kersey than a Gerald Wallace.
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Certainly time will tell, but two areas I would dispute. First, from the video I have seen, Little has no worse handles than anyone on the team not named Dame, CJ or ET (on a good day). He looked very comfortable with the ball in his hands when he was playing as a wing (as compared to his minutes at UNC where he only handled the ball on steal-dunks). Second, I loved Kersey, but he had to work for years on his shot to get it to be respectable in games. Little has a nice looking shot and whenever I saw him play as a wing (not PF) then he seemed very comfortable shooting. I know his UNC numbers were less than optimal, but I don't think that puts him at or below Kersey or Wallace as a shooter.

Where I do have concerns is how long it will take "for the game to slow down" for him. Sounds like it took Ant one year. I would argue the same for Collins. Longer for Layman and Trent (?). His ability to be in the right places in the Blazers offense and defense will be his biggest challenges.
 
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