Nate on Miller: He's probably one of the quietest...

[MARIS61]

And when you have a guy who's as quiet as Andre is, it slows it down even more. Just because the guy's learning what to say, when to say it. And he's just an introverted guy. He's probably one of the quietest guys I've seen.

Andre = stoner?

That would explain the varied attitudes toward him from the players.

 

[Masbee]

I'll give you guys my take on being "quiet" in the locker room.

As somebody who was almost painfully shy as a kid and a teenager AND participated in team sports like soccer and football I can tell you first hand that it's very easy for people to misinterpret your reticence as hostility or indifference. As a result of my own shyness I think I can safely say it had a fairly direct effect on me suffering through a couple of pretty frustrating seasons with coaches who mistook me for a malcontent and a "bad guy."

On a freshmen high-school football team. I didn't hang out with my football "buddies" after practice and I didn't play grab ass in the locker room and I didn't do a lot of "rah-rah-ing" from the sideline or in games. I just played defensive end and I unloaded on guys as hard as I could ... and I was good at it. Regardless, when I got to my sophomore year I'd been pretty much black-balled by coaches (these guys talk to each other apparently) and I could never crack more than spot minutes in games, one assistant even encouraged me to quit "for the good of the team," so I did. My biggest sin? I was told I was too quiet and too much to myself and I held myself above and a part from my teammates -- or at least I was perceived that way. As a result I decided to go into cross-country that fall and focus all my energy on wrestling, two sports that didn't require me to do anything but rely on my own performance and I excelled.

In retrospect I remember feeling misunderstood and slighted and robbed, but now I realize that I caused people to become uneasy around me and that I probably made things very uncomfortable for certain people. If I'd had coaches that only cared about performance on the field, things might have gone differently, but they placed a great deal of emphasis on the brotherhood angle and I think I threatened that a bit.

Part of me can't help but empathize with Miller somewhat in this situation, but I also understand that it's possible that his shyness or "quietness" probably walls him off from his teammates, and for a team that seemed to focus so heavily on chemistry and a collegial atmosphere -- and indeed seemed to feed of this to succeed -- I wonder if it isn't best for both sides that he moves on.

So,

Do you think that Nate is just a full-on "JOCK" at heart (dude has lived in locker rooms most his life), and can't mentally grasp a personality like Dre - and this thus explains his obvious (to most fans anywho) misuse of him?

 

[Nikolokolus]

So,

Do you think that Nate is just a full-on "JOCK" at heart (dude has lived in locker rooms most his life), and can't mentally grasp a personality like Dre - and this thus explains his obvious (to most fans anywho) misuse of him?

Maybe. I don't really know. But what does seem pretty apparent is that there is a fairly wide gulf between the two of them ... and when a coach and point guard don't have a good line of communication or trust between them that's a problem in my opinion -- who is at fault is mostly immaterial to me.

 

[RR7]

But it seems like he has trusted him, at least in the mention of letting him call the plays, etc.

 

[Ed O]

I can't tell if Nate is recognizing that others on the team can't relate to Miller, or admitting that he cannot.

Emotional intelligence doesn't come easily to many people, so it could be either (or both).

Ed O.

 

[Nikolokolus]

But it seems like he has trusted him, at least in the mention of letting him call the plays, etc.

For one game. The rest of the time he's talked about Miller leading this elusive and ill-defined "second unit." Ergo, "you've got about five to ten minutes to go wild and do things your way, after that give Brandon the ball and let me call the plays"

 

[PapaG]

I can't tell if Nate is recognizing that others on the team can't relate to Miller, or admitting that he cannot.

Emotional intelligence doesn't come easily to many people, so it could be either (or both).

Ed O.

Don't waffle now, Ed. This place excels on reading between the lines to derive intent. Without that, this board has no meaning. Put yourself out there. Which is it, and does Nate have a low "emotional intelligence" that is hindering this team?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Don't waffle now, Ed. This place excels on reading between the lines to derive intent. Without that, this board has no meaning. Put yourself out there. Which is it, and does Nate have a low "emotional intelligence" that is hindering this team?

Myabe he wasn't asking a rhetorical question?

 

[PapaG]

Myabe he wasn't asking a rhetorical question?

Well, it's was still an "either/or" question. Let's dive deep into the latest round of phychological analysis based on a print interview.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Well, it's was still an "either/or" question. Let's dive deep into the latest round of phychological analysis based on a print interview.

No thanks.

 

[Natebishop3]

And when you have a guy who's as quiet as Andre is, it slows it down even more. Just because the guy's learning what to say, when to say it. And he's just an introverted guy. He's probably one of the quietest guys I've seen.

Andre = stoner?

That would explain the varied attitudes toward him from the players.

That must be it

 

[Ed O]

Don't waffle now, Ed. This place excels on reading between the lines to derive intent. Without that, this board has no meaning. Put yourself out there. Which is it, and does Nate have a low "emotional intelligence" that is hindering this team?

I don't know if you're being serious or are just trying to take a shot at me or the rest of the board, but I don't try to derive intent on most things. I barely can discern my own motivations in real life... there's no way I'm going to often state what I think people who play a game for a living are thinking.

I know, though, that Nate keeps making mistakes and then keeps correcting (some of) them. Why he's doing this I'm not sure.

Ed O.

 

[jlprk]

Well, it's was still an "either/or" question. Let's dive deep into the latest round of phychological analysis based on a print interview.

That would be like when Jason Quick announces what a player's feelings are, based upon Quick's expert reading of his "body language."

 

[jlprk]

And when you have a guy who's as quiet as Andre is, it slows it down even more. Just because the guy's learning what to say, when to say it. And he's just an introverted guy. He's probably one of the quietest guys I've seen.

Andre = stoner?

That would explain the varied attitudes toward him from the players.

I don't try to derive intent on most things. I barely can discern my own motivations in real life... there's no way I'm going to often state what I think people who play a game for a living are thinking. I know, though, that Nate keeps making mistakes and then keeps correcting (some of) them. Why he's doing this I'm not sure.

It's NATE who's the stoner!! No, it's you. I'm all confused. I better have a little of this good stuff right here and straighten out.

 

[magnifier661]

Nate and this injury to him may be a blessing. I would love to see some changes with him not on the court. I would really like Miller to get a starting nod. Maybe this is a phantom injury that will prove how insane Nate is. WTF is the dude's problem anyways? Seriously, is he really this much of a stubborn jackass, that he won't even try a Miller, Roy, Webster, Aldridge and Oden line-up?!?!?! Seriously!