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Of course, that's based on Lewis' PER of 12.0 this year, which I seriously doubt would be repeated. In fact, if anyone would be able to get all-star caliber production out of Lewis again, wouldn't it be Nate?
Of course, that's based on Lewis' PER of 12.0 this year, which I seriously doubt would be repeated. In fact, if anyone would be able to get all-star caliber production out of Lewis again, wouldn't it be Nate?
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Lewis is done ... put a fork in him.
Lewis is done ... put a fork in him.
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JaVale McGee - seriously? He's a slightly richer man's Keith Closs. Nevada fans thought it was Christmas when he was superseded by Luke Babbitt. The only thing he's got going for him is he was born in beautiful Flint, Michigan.
JaVale McGee - seriously? He's a slightly richer man's Keith Closs. Nevada fans thought it was Christmas when he was superseded by Luke Babbitt. The only thing he's got going for him is he was born in beautiful Flint, Michigan.
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Kanter's offensive game is very similar to Okur. He doesn't have his range yet but Kanter/McGee could easily work. I don't see why this would make JaVale available.
Kanter's offensive game is very similar to Okur. He doesn't have his range yet but Kanter/McGee could easily work. I don't see why this would make JaVale available.
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http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/06/nate_mcmillan_impressed_by_ken.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/06/nate_mcmillan_impressed_by_ken.html
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Blazers took Faried out to dinner last night. They really, really like him. (via BFT)
Blazers took Faried out to dinner last night. They really, really like him. (via BFT)
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I wonder if they took him to Caramico's?
I wonder if they took him to Caramico's?
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Apparently, Oswego Grill.
Apparently, Oswego Grill.
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Any report on what he ordered? I'm trying to get a feel for his psyche.
Any report on what he ordered? I'm trying to get a feel for his psyche.
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Walker pulled out of workout against Jimmer.
Hmmmm, interesting.
Walker pulled out of workout against Jimmer.
Hmmmm, interesting.
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They should have taken him to MB's favorite pizzeria, Bellagios.
They should have taken him to MB's favorite pizzeria, Bellagios.
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I would be ecstatic if we drafted Faried.
I would be ecstatic if we drafted Faried.
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Not sure "ecstatic" is the word I would use.....maybe ho-hum instead?
McMillan compares him to a Reggie Evans type of player, which is not overly appealing to me...
POR needs some scorers, players who can creat 1v1 and a backup PG more than they need a b\u PF, and there are a fair amount of intriguing options for a b\u PF in free agency...Carl Landry & Kris Humphries are 2 that come to mind.....Freeland would be another possibility...
Rather see POR go for a PG or a scorer....
Wouldn't mind seeing them acquire a 2nd 1st rounder to get a big man, maybe a center like Benson or Tyler. Vucevic looks like a big stiff to me...
Not sure "ecstatic" is the word I would use.....maybe ho-hum instead?
McMillan compares him to a Reggie Evans type of player, which is not overly appealing to me...
POR needs some scorers, players who can creat 1v1 and a backup PG more than they need a b\u PF, and there are a fair amount of intriguing options for a b\u PF in free agency...Carl Landry & Kris Humphries are 2 that come to mind.....Freeland would be another possibility...
Rather see POR go for a PG or a scorer....
Wouldn't mind seeing them acquire a 2nd 1st rounder to get a big man, maybe a center like Benson or Tyler. Vucevic looks like a big stiff to me...
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Kemba and Knight are working out today in Toronto. Separately.
Makes no sense to me. I remember in 06, when Roy, Gay, Ammo, and Hassan Adams, four of the top wing prospects in that draft came out to PDX to workout together.
Kemba and Knight are working out today in Toronto. Separately.
Makes no sense to me. I remember in 06, when Roy, Gay, Ammo, and Hassan Adams, four of the top wing prospects in that draft came out to PDX to workout together.
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I think his dominance on the boards will definitely translate to the NBA and is something we need off of the bench, and possibly in the starting lineup. As Camby continues to age and the year-to-year health of Oden up in the air, Faried would give us a pretty good option at the 4.
If Oden never truly makes it into the starting lineup, I can see Faried starting down the road at the 4 with LMA at the 5, and I think it'd be a pretty effective lineup if you add Crash/Wesley and whoever is our PG in there.
Also, with the lockout and the amount of money that would need to be spent on Humphries and Landry to just come in here and backup the 4, would just simply not be worth it.
We are definitely in agreement with the needs that we have, and should fill this offseason. But if we are not very active this draft and stick at #21 and Faried is still there, I will be more than happy if we take him.
I think his dominance on the boards will definitely translate to the NBA and is something we need off of the bench, and possibly in the starting lineup. As Camby continues to age and the year-to-year health of Oden up in the air, Faried would give us a pretty good option at the 4.
If Oden never truly makes it into the starting lineup, I can see Faried starting down the road at the 4 with LMA at the 5, and I think it'd be a pretty effective lineup if you add Crash/Wesley and whoever is our PG in there.
Also, with the lockout and the amount of money that would need to be spent on Humphries and Landry to just come in here and backup the 4, would just simply not be worth it.
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Agreed. But that is also Matthews, Wallace, and then him. It doesn't help out LMA all that much on offense, and really, it puts even more pressure on Miller, as if he is off, it's LMA or nothing. Or, you're asking guys to do something they sdhouldn't necessarily be, creating for themselves, which they aren't that great at. Obviously with a big gap in talent, but it's the same issue we had with Roy and LMA, and then surrounding them with guys like Blake, Outlaw, Webster, Joel, Batum. You double the main play maker(Andre, Roy), and you're left with 3 guys on the court that aren't great at creating for themselves in a half court set. And we get bogged down. We've seen it for the last 4 years or so.
I know it's partly a coaching issue, but it's a fit/talent issue as well. Can't have that many players dependent on one guy to get them shots. It's easier to stop.
Agreed. But that is also Matthews, Wallace, and then him. It doesn't help out LMA all that much on offense, and really, it puts even more pressure on Miller, as if he is off, it's LMA or nothing. Or, you're asking guys to do something they sdhouldn't necessarily be, creating for themselves, which they aren't that great at. Obviously with a big gap in talent, but it's the same issue we had with Roy and LMA, and then surrounding them with guys like Blake, Outlaw, Webster, Joel, Batum. You double the main play maker(Andre, Roy), and you're left with 3 guys on the court that aren't great at creating for themselves in a half court set. And we get bogged down. We've seen it for the last 4 years or so.
I know it's partly a coaching issue, but it's a fit/talent issue as well. Can't have that many players dependent on one guy to get them shots. It's easier to stop.
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Givony on his most recent podcast was really high on Montiejunas.
[video=youtube;IFqK-YXlsHs]
He was supposed to be the top pick of this draft, but has dropped because of some stagnation in his development this year. Givony said his effort isn't always there. But if he drops to us, I'd take him over Faried because he's more skilled.
Givony on his most recent podcast was really high on Montiejunas.
[video=youtube;IFqK-YXlsHs]
He was supposed to be the top pick of this draft, but has dropped because of some stagnation in his development this year. Givony said his effort isn't always there. But if he drops to us, I'd take him over Faried because he's more skilled.
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Just for clarification, I'm not even sure if Faried will ever even be a starter in the NBA, but I think he can be an impact player, especially coming off the bench for us, even next year. With out lack of consistent health, we depend a lot on LMA to rebound AND dominate on the offensive end, and I think adding Faried really gives us some depth up front that can take some of that pressure off LMA (if Camby/Oden) are not healthy and LMA is forced to play the 5.
Good point on the PG, as I think that is not only something Faried would benefit from, but LMA as well. I identify that as our biggest need in this draft/offseason is adding a PG, even a project, that is active and create with penetration (and hopefully better shooting than 'Dre).
Just for clarification, I'm not even sure if Faried will ever even be a starter in the NBA, but I think he can be an impact player, especially coming off the bench for us, even next year. With out lack of consistent health, we depend a lot on LMA to rebound AND dominate on the offensive end, and I think adding Faried really gives us some depth up front that can take some of that pressure off LMA (if Camby/Oden) are not healthy and LMA is forced to play the 5.
Good point on the PG, as I think that is not only something Faried would benefit from, but LMA as well. I identify that as our biggest need in this draft/offseason is adding a PG, even a project, that is active and create with penetration (and hopefully better shooting than 'Dre).
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For me, it's Faried or bust.
For me, it's Faried or bust.
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I'm going purely off of youtube highlights but I've been saying for weeks that this guy has INSANE offensive skills. So far Kanter, Valanciunas, Biyombo, and Vesely have been seen as easily better by most sources. Donatas seems like a fucking TERRIBLE defender/ rebounder but shit look at that offensive game. Athletic 7 footer with excellent footwork, gorgeous fluidity (Valanciunas on the other hand looks stiff and mechanical), finishes with both hands (Kanter had zero left hand at Nike hoop summit and I have a hard time believing hes become ambidextrous in a year-year and a half), can dribble drive on big guys, shoot out to 3 pt range, score in the post. Even if he becomes Andrea Bargnani that's a good pick considering where most mock's have him projected. If he fills out and rebounds a little better who's to say he doesn't become a Rasheed type of guy (less defense) as far as ability to score from all over the court.
I'm going purely off of youtube highlights but I've been saying for weeks that this guy has INSANE offensive skills. So far Kanter, Valanciunas, Biyombo, and Vesely have been seen as easily better by most sources. Donatas seems like a fucking TERRIBLE defender/ rebounder but shit look at that offensive game. Athletic 7 footer with excellent footwork, gorgeous fluidity (Valanciunas on the other hand looks stiff and mechanical), finishes with both hands (Kanter had zero left hand at Nike hoop summit and I have a hard time believing hes become ambidextrous in a year-year and a half), can dribble drive on big guys, shoot out to 3 pt range, score in the post. Even if he becomes Andrea Bargnani that's a good pick considering where most mock's have him projected. If he fills out and rebounds a little better who's to say he doesn't become a Rasheed type of guy (less defense) as far as ability to score from all over the court.
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Givoni was on David Locke's radio show today and said that Donatas should be the clear-cut #1 pick but he held himself back by coasting a lot. The 'doesn't love the game' talk surrounding him sounds like it has some substance to it. Though, I'd still trade up for him if we had the chance.
Givoni was on David Locke's radio show today and said that Donatas should be the clear-cut #1 pick but he held himself back by coasting a lot. The 'doesn't love the game' talk surrounding him sounds like it has some substance to it. Though, I'd still trade up for him if we had the chance.
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Via Chad Ford's Draft Mock 4.0
Via Chad Ford's Draft Mock 4.0
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There's no way Faried will fall to #21. I hope Chad & Co. are planning on trading up!
There's no way Faried will fall to #21. I hope Chad & Co. are planning on trading up!
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