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BlazerBender said:
Sabonis grabbed draymond legs and tried to trip him.
I paused the replay and its clear Sabonis has both arms wrapped around Draymonds foot/leg. This does not excuse a foot stop but people acting like Draymond is the only person who did anything wrong

anyone not seeing that, needs to see an eye doctor, or lets emotions overrule facts… but that never happens around here right?

Some of you let your hate overrule common sense. Not a quality trait….
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Completely disagree. His hand never grabbed Green's leg. Sabonis was reacting naturally to a fall, trying to protect his face in traffic as a reaction. Green's leg happened to be there, and was more of a reason for Sabonis to cover his face. What was he supposed to do, carefully reach around Green's leg?

The retaliation is always called. Simple as that. Green's reputation caught up to him here.

I like both players.
 
Whyachi said:
Lakers were 27-32 before the trade deadline. For all of those crummy losses Blazer fans were complaining about {raises hand}, Portland still maintained a better record then LA at 28-30. The Lakers were getting their butts kicked, no doubt about it.

The Lakers had no 1st round pick like the Blazers. They couldn't bug out like Portland and nosedive into the draft. Los Angeles decided to rapidly improve their team by slashing Westbrooks bloated contract, and scoop up several good players at the trade deadline. The adjustments worked quite well, and LAL went 16-5 during a strong finish to the season.
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I believe the Lakers do have a 1st round pick but Pelicans have a pick swap with them.
 
blazerkor said:
Fuck Draymond! He's been one of the worst guys in the league on the court for years and he should get suspended for a few games for the shit he pulled tonight. For anyone that thinks he is a trade target, think again. I've never liked Draymond's game, the dude is nothing if the refs don't let him get away with fouling. He's like a 6'6" version of PatBev. Fuck both of them!
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Sign Dray, trade for Jimmy, keep Thybulle, you can’t tell me we wouldn’t have the best defense in the league.
 
BlazerBender said:
Pausing it last night, its clear Sabonis wrapped his arms around Greens leg. Intentional or not, it clearly prevented Draymond from trying to move.
I agree though. Both overblown. Double techs and play on is my opinion.
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"Play on" after a player purposely stomps on another player's chest while the stompee is lying supine on the court, then using the stompee's chest like a springboard to launch himself into the air? Is this sarcasm? Satire? Bizarro World?
 
KingSpeed said:
Sign Dray, trade for Jimmy, keep Thybulle, you can’t tell me we wouldn’t have the best defense in the league.
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No thanks, I don't know if Dray gets away with the constant dirty play in a new environment. Without that advantage I don't think he is an NBA level basketball player. I think all parts of his game have been heading downhill for a couple of seasons now. When you are already one of the least athletic players in the game at your size, the loss of even a quarter of a step really diminishes things.

If we got Jimmy Butler he would be the best player that Dame has played with, so that wouldn't be bad but ideally we get guys who can come in and help Dame right away but are still younger than Dame so they can take on more and more responsibility once Dame's game starts to decline. Ideally we don't want players who will decline while Dame is, we definitely don't want a guy like Dray who is already declining and really can't afford to.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Completely disagree. His hand never grabbed Green's leg. Sabonis was reacting naturally to a fall, trying to protect his face in traffic as a reaction. Green's leg happened to be there, and was more of a reason for Sabonis to cover his face. What was he supposed to do, carefully reach around Green's leg?

The retaliation is always called. Simple as that. Green's reputation caught up to him here.

I like both players.
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To me, no he didn't wrap fingers around, but he did wrap arms around. Unintentional or not. However it certainly looks to me that when Draymond initially lifts his foot up, Sabonis was not letting go and Draymond almost tripped right over him.
 
BBert said:
"Play on" after a player purposely stomps on another player's chest while the stompee is lying supine on the court, then using the stompee's chest like a springboard to launch himself into the air? Is this sarcasm? Satire? Bizarro World?
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Did you miss me saying they shoild have been T’d up?

Draymonds reaction after are all about getting ejected. T him up and he doesn't go on the fan tyrade.
 
It's not the first Green has done something dirty in his career. But seems more he plays the worst he gets plus every chance he gets he also gets in referees faces to me he bad for the league. I question Dame tweet and what O'Neil had say I don't agree with there opinions.
 
James lamphear said:
It's not the first Green has done something dirty in his career. But seems more he plays the worst he gets plus every chance he gets he also gets in referees faces to me he bad for the league. I question Dame tweet and what O'Neil had say I don't agree with there opinions.
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They're both friends with Dray. So I take what they say when commenting on the obvious fact that Dray is one of the dirtiest players in the game, with a grain of salt.
 
BlazerBender said:
To me, no he didn't wrap fingers around, but he did wrap arms around. Unintentional or not. However it certainly looks to me that when Draymond initially lifts his foot up, Sabonis was not letting go and Draymond almost tripped right over him.
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It happened so fast there wasn't time to process all of that. As soon as he put his hands to his face Green's foot was coming up. Green's foot hooked Sabonis's elbow and lifted a bit, but as soon as there was pressure Sabonis' arm began moving back out.

Take a second and think about it. You have huge dudes stomping around your head. Are you going to be gently and carefully placing your fingers over your eyes? No way. You're trying to wrap your arms around your face hard, as a reflex. At least, I would. There is no way to go from that reaction to letting go in a split second. It take a longer to release the muscles.. But I understand the T, given the history. Prevent things from escelating.

However, Green's response was deliberate and extreme. He thought he was being attacked and struck out in defense. Ejection is no question. Possibly suspension. How is that different than a punch? It's really not...
 
Dray has maybe one of the highest BBIQ’s in history of game but has terrible common sense when he gets in heat of moment. To me the whole thing is a little overblown
 
Phatguysrule said:
It happened so fast there wasn't time to process all of that. As soon as he put his hands to his face Green's foot was coming up. Green's foot hooked Sabonis's elbow and lifted a bit, but as soon as there was pressure Sabonis' arm began moving back out.

Take a second and think about it. You have huge dudes stomping around your head. Are you going to be gently and carefully placing your fingers over your eyes? No way. You're trying to wrap your arms around your face hard, as a reflex. At least, I would. There is no way to go from that reaction to letting go in a split second. It take a longer to release the muscles.. But I understand the T, given the history. Prevent things from escelating.

However, Green's response was deliberate and extreme. He thought he was being attacked and struck out in defense. Ejection is no question. Possibly suspension. How is that different than a punch? It's really not...
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We shall have to agree to disagree on the bulk of this. I think both are to blame.

But you know what really needs to happen?
We need to stop rewarding initiators and blaming retaliators. Not you. Not me. everyone!

im so sick and tired of hearing how someones actions are dismissed but no one can retaliate or else. Why the hell do we, as a society allow such double standards?

that shit drives me nuts. If we aren't willing to blame someone for creating an issue, we should not blame those who have reactions to it. If we don't hold those accountable for their innitial behavior, then we shouldn't focus on the retaliatory behavior.
Lets start making people own up to their actions from step one, shall we?

considering this behavior is well accepted in this forum, i don't expect much in positive responses to this post. Lol.
 
BlazerBender said:
We shall have to agree to disagree on the bulk of this. I think both are to blame.

But you know what really needs to happen?
We need to stop rewarding initiators and blaming retaliators. Not you. Not me. everyone!

im so sick and tired of hearing how someones actions are dismissed but no one can retaliate or else. Why the hell do we, as a society allow such double standards?

that shit drives me nuts. If we aren't willing to blame someone for creating an issue, we should not blame those who have reactions to it. If we don't hold those accountable for their innitial behavior, then we shouldn't focus on the retaliatory behavior.
Lets start making people own up to their actions from step one, shall we?

considering this behavior is well accepted in this forum, i don't expect much in positive responses to this post. Lol.
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Domantas shouldnt have wrapped his arms around Draymond's leg. Like I said, maybe he was just trying to protect himself from getting stepped on. Maybe he was trying to impede or get Draymond back. A lot of players having grabbing other players legs and that needs to stop. Maybe Domantas deserved a foul for doing that. I thought he was going to get one actually. Many on here have acknowledged that Domantas had old of his leg for one reason or the other.

But, what Draymond did was not ok, retaliation or not. You don't stomp on other players. That's an immediate disqualifying action. It was unnecessary. He could have just waited and pointed it out to the refs and look he's holding my leg and fouling me. Domantas would have gotten a foul then. H chose to stomp on Domantas. Uncalled for.
 
BlazerBender said:
We shall have to agree to disagree on the bulk of this. I think both are to blame.

But you know what really needs to happen?
We need to stop rewarding initiators and blaming retaliators. Not you. Not me. everyone!

im so sick and tired of hearing how someones actions are dismissed but no one can retaliate or else. Why the hell do we, as a society allow such double standards?

that shit drives me nuts. If we aren't willing to blame someone for creating an issue, we should not blame those who have reactions to it. If we don't hold those accountable for their innitial behavior, then we shouldn't focus on the retaliatory behavior.
Lets start making people own up to their actions from step one, shall we?

considering this behavior is well accepted in this forum, i don't expect much in positive responses to this post. Lol.
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Chris Craig said:
Domantas shouldnt have wrapped his arms around Draymond's leg. Like I said, maybe he was just trying to protect himself from getting stepped on. Maybe he was trying to impede or get Draymond back. A lot of players having grabbing other players legs and that needs to stop. Maybe Domantas deserved a foul for doing that. I thought he was going to get one actually. Many on here have acknowledged that Domantas had old of his leg for one reason or the other.

But, what Draymond did was not ok, retaliation or not. You don't stomp on other players. That's an immediate disqualifying action. It was unnecessary. He could have just waited and pointed it out to the refs and look he's holding my leg and fouling me. Domantas would have gotten a foul then. H chose to stomp on Domantas. Uncalled for.
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100%.
The only counter i have to that is initiators seem to get away with stuff so often that those on the receiving end of an initiating issue likely often feel compelled to take matters into their own hands because the initiator is too often dismissed and let off.

Not excusing Draymond at all. But i know full well the feeling of being helpless and feeing like the only thing left is to take matters into ones own hands.
Its been noted how often this season grabbing has happened with no penalty. At a point people have had enough and retaliate.
 
BlazerBender said:
100%.
The only counter i have to that is initiators seem to get away with stuff so often that those on the receiving end of an initiating issue likely often feel compelled to take matters into their own hands because the initiator is too often dismissed and let off.

Not excusing Draymond at all. But i know full well the feeling of being helpless and feeing like the only thing left is to take matters into ones own hands.
Its been noted how often this season grabbing has happened with no penalty. At a point people have had enough and retaliate.
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You know how much shit Draymond gets away with? He sat on Domantas game 1 and nothing. Yet, now he is a victim because maybe Domantas intimated his own chest stomping? Draymond is no victim.

I get the feeling of needing to take matters into your own hands. Draymond though was not and is not helpless. Like I said above, he could have stood there and pointed out to the refs that Domantas had his leg. Domantas would have gotten a foul, probably a take foul. Taking matters into one's own hands most often just makes things worse. Draymond decided to stomp Domantas. The results were his own fault. Not Domantas's.

In the NBA we do see initiators get in trouble too. Double techs. Double fouls. We see it all the time.

When a player is continuously openly dirty. He brings on himself what he sows.
 
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