NBA to vote for expansion next week (1 Viewer)

[AldoTrapani]

Sources: NBA set for 1st vote in Las Vegas-Seattle expansion

The NBA will hold a vote at the board of governors meetings next week to explore adding expansion teams exclusively in Las Vegas and Seattle, sources told ESPN.

www.espn.com

Just hope the greedy owners realize they can make even more money if they approve this. They say they project Seattle and Vegas to be in the top 8 money-making markets. I can't wait for the Sonics and Blazers rivalry again. My first game was in 1989 to watch Clyde and crew go against Kemp and Payton and posse.

I want to see if I can find that game or bits of if it on YouTube. Any helpers?

Seattle is considered a big market team?

 

[AldoTrapani]

I like the idea of Durant playing his final year for the Sonics.

Yes the Portland Seattle rivalry was very cool.

Also they need to 100% remove any mention of sonics record or activities being tied to OKC. Makes me cringe whenever I heard some "franchise" OKC stat that includes games before 2008.

that will be so sad if Seattle wins a title before us after being gone for 20 years

 

[AldoTrapani]

If you like a good video to watch, with some commentary by Brodie Brazil.

He says the front-runners have not been decided yet. "The NBA wants expansion competition."

it’s definitely been decided already lol.. Seattle isn’t gonna get teased like this after what the nba put them thru

 

[bigbailes]

I don't understand how you don't see the benefit and no-brainer concept of 2 more teams adding their revenue to the pot. These teams will be top 8 markets for income. Would you rather have 1/30th of 100 billion or 1/32 of 120 billion? (speaking in generic amounts just to illustrate the concept)

In what world is Seattle (DMA 13th) and Las Vegas (40th) considered 'Top 8 markets' ... Seattle is seen was seen as a 'small market' in NBA and still is in MLB standards, that would make Vegas tiny. For reference, Vegas would be the 4th smallest only ahead of OKC, New Orleans and Memphis. Two of those cities are one sport markets and the other has the NFL and the Pelicans always seem to be threatening to leave NO. I get that Vegas is an outlier when talking about these markets but it remains to be seen how they are going to handle all four major sports. The NFL/Raiders is an easy one because it's seen as a destination for road teams fans to get to for a weekend. The Golden Knights won right away getting to the Stanley Cup Finals in their first year and have remarkably been very consistent since in making the playoffs every year but one. If a team doesn't win right away, will the fans come out? Are road teams going to have their fans come in for a Wednesday night game in the middle of January? Going to be interesting to see how well they can support a 4th team.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

In what world is Seattle (DMA 13th) and Las Vegas (40th) considered 'Top 8 markets' ... Seattle is seen was seen as a 'small market' in NBA and still is in MLB standards, that would make Vegas tiny. For reference, Vegas would be the 4th smallest only ahead of OKC, New Orleans and Memphis. Two of those cities are one sport markets and the other has the NFL and the Pelicans always seem to be threatening to leave NO. I get that Vegas is an outlier when talking about these markets but it remains to be seen how they are going to handle all four major sports. The NFL/Raiders is an easy one because it's seen as a destination for road teams fans to get to for a weekend. The Golden Knights won right away getting to the Stanley Cup Finals in their first year and have remarkably been very consistent since in making the playoffs every year but one. If a team doesn't win right away, will the fans come out? Are road teams going to have their fans come in for a Wednesday night game in the middle of January? Going to be interesting to see how well they can support a 4th team.

Seattle isn't 13th.... Maybe your talking about inner city population. That doesn't matter though. What matters is metro area population, disposable income, corporate partners, etc. Those are attributes that ultimately determine revenue the new franchises would bring in.

 

[AldoTrapani]

In what world is Seattle (DMA 13th) and Las Vegas (40th) considered 'Top 8 markets' ... Seattle is seen was seen as a 'small market' in NBA and still is in MLB standards, that would make Vegas tiny. For reference, Vegas would be the 4th smallest only ahead of OKC, New Orleans and Memphis. Two of those cities are one sport markets and the other has the NFL and the Pelicans always seem to be threatening to leave NO. I get that Vegas is an outlier when talking about these markets but it remains to be seen how they are going to handle all four major sports. The NFL/Raiders is an easy one because it's seen as a destination for road teams fans to get to for a weekend. The Golden Knights won right away getting to the Stanley Cup Finals in their first year and have remarkably been very consistent since in making the playoffs every year but one. If a team doesn't win right away, will the fans come out? Are road teams going to have their fans come in for a Wednesday night game in the middle of January? Going to be interesting to see how well they can support a 4th team.

I think the new Seattle compared to the Sonics days is now considered a big market. Seattle has exploded with money and growth since 2008.

Everytime I go there which is about every few years I don’t even recognize their skyline. It’s so huge nowadays

 

[bigbailes]

Seattle isn't 13th.... Maybe your talking about inner city population. That doesn't matter though. What matters is metro area population, disposable income, corporate partners, etc. Those are attributes that ultimately determine revenue the new franchises would bring in.

I'm talking about TV market size which is metro population and number of TVs in the household ... Seattle isn't going to be seen as a small market MLB franchise but suddenly morph into a top 8 NBA market. Vegas is tiny for metro size, of course they are an outlier when it comes to corporate sponsorships for a city their size but still they aren not going to be seen as a top 8 market overall when competing with NY, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Philly etc.

 

[bigbailes]

I think the new Seattle compared to the Sonics days is now considered a big market. Seattle has exploded with money and growth since 2008.

Everytime I go there which is about every few years I don’t even recognize their skyline. It’s so huge nowadays

But it's not in DMA market ... it's actually gotten smaller when talking about it's TV market size which was 12th just a couple years ago. Going by metro size population wise they are 15th. Add to it the taxes the state is enacting and corporations like Starbucks and Amazon relocating major parts of their business and it doesn't look like Seattle will be a 'major market' anytime soon.

Nielsen DMA Rankings 2025

ustvdb.com

 

[AldoTrapani]

But it's not in DMA market ... it's actually gotten smaller when talking about it's TV market size which was 12th just a couple years ago. Going by metro size population wise they are 15th. Add to it the taxes the state is enacting and corporations like Starbucks and Amazon relocating major parts of their business and it doesn't look like Seattle will be a 'major market' anytime soon.

Nielsen DMA Rankings 2025

ustvdb.com

I can’t argue with that. I was just going with my perception of new seattle! But that makes sense

 

[TYDame]

Seattle SuperSonics and the Las Vegas High Rollers (I like that name lol)

 

[wizenheimer]

I'm not sure where big markets end and where small markets begin or if there is an in-between and how big it is