Exclusive NBA Trade Deadline Thread 2024

[beast blazer]

I like Jerami Grant, but I don't like how he plays sometimes. He'd be great if he'd play within an offense, but he wants to go one on one. If we're insisting on him being this no rebounding PF that plays MeJ ball, I'd rather deal him.

 

[BankTeller]

I like Jerami Grant, but I don't like how he plays sometimes. He'd be great if he'd play within an offense, but he wants to go one on one. If we're insisting on him being this no rebounding PF that plays MeJ ball, I'd rather deal him.

You saying this makes me think you haven’t watched the last few games. Grant is sometimes literally the only offensive option on the floor. Even in the Knicks game, where Ant was having a TERRIBLE night, just missing bunnies after having a great 1st shooting quarter, helped Grant score by drawing attention.

It’s the same feeling I get when I hear the whole “Ant is Me-J 2.0” (the most low-hanging fruit type of conjecture on this forum) narrative. I saw Scoot get two straight turnovers to start the game and really thought to myself, “this the dude people are clamoring to get rid of ‘Me-J’ over?”.

People who always have something to say about either Ant or Grant will miss them when Scoot gets a 10to game or the team consistently scores less than 100ppg for a stretch. Guaranteed.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

You saying this makes me think you haven’t watched the last few games. Grant is sometimes literally the only offensive option on the floor. Even in the Knicks game, where Ant was having a TERRIBLE night, just missing bunnies after having a great 1st shooting quarter, helped Grant score by drawing attention.

It’s the same feeling I get when I hear the whole “Ant is Me-J 2.0” (the most low-hanging fruit type of conjecture on this forum) narrative. I saw Scoot get two straight turnovers to start the game and really thought to myself, “this the dude people are clamoring to get rid of ‘Me-J’ over?”.

People who always have something to say about either Ant or Grant will miss them when Scoot gets a 10to game or the team consistently scores less than 100ppg for a stretch. Guaranteed.

Yep. Part of my fear I’m touching on in another thread.
Many people want to trade the vets for picks and have a near full roster of rookie contracts.
I don’t see it working.

 

[BIG Q]

I would like to see a roster with Kelly Olynick type players. Players that can get 10-15 ppg, rebound, defend and most importantly impart knowledge on the young players. They are true place holders until the youngsters can carry the team. But guys like this are most likely saving their pennies and doing things the right way because they are not stars. They are future coaches.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[BankTeller]

I would like to see a roster with Kelly Olynick type players. Players that can get 10-15 ppg, rebound, defend and most importantly impart knowledge on the young players. They are true place holders until the youngsters can carry the team. But guys like this are most likely saving their pennies and doing things the right way because they are not stars. They are future coaches.

Olynyk seems to be getting a lot of attention from teams trying to compete, but I agree with you on bringing these types of players in.

One guy I really like is Kyle Lowry. He already has a relationship with Chauncey. If Lowry was happy with his one ring and willing to come here on a $6-10m deal, just to mentor the young guys, why tf not? We could trade him to a contender for a 2nd or whatever at the deadline if he really wanted.

Batum, same thing, I’d love him. I would especially want him of we drafted someone like Risacher or Salaun or Sarr. One or more of them with Rupert, why not bring back Batum to help them settle in the states and really be a guide for their early career.

Unless we get multiple picks back, the only reason I’d want to deal with GSW is if CP3 wants to mentor our guys for a year. You can’t deny his impact on guys like SGA and DBook. Hell, GSW looks even worse now that CP3 is injured—he was holding that bench unit down.

There are probably plenty more, but those are the top 3 off the top of my head.

 

[BankTeller]

Now this is where it gets interesting. Not that much changes. Still only have the ‘28 1st. Kuminga still a stretch to actually bring in a star, Moody might be their only interesting young guy to me (they’re not trading Podz or JacksonDavis), Wiggins contract is a negative, Klay and Dray don’t return any players of value.

 

[kjironman1]

Maybe confusing him with Kai Jones?

Could be the case?
But still Colby Jones at 2 mil for 4 years at 6-6 SG could work into something?
I figure he meant what he said?

 

[kjironman1]

Yep. Part of my fear I’m touching on in another thread.
Many people want to trade the vets for picks and have a near full roster of rookie contracts.
I don’t see it working.

Here's the thing. If this team still had Dame and CJ with Sharpe, Grant, Ayton, Walker, Thybule and Simons they are absolutely making the playoffs and possibly making some noise.

 

[Cugel]

Will be interesting to see what GSW does. CP3, Klay, Draymond, and Wiggins are all bad contracts. Moody can score that is about all I know about him. Kuminga is attractive but will he ever really reach a higher level where he is sniffing all-nba? How much better is he than a guy like Jabari? He is not a centerpiece to a deal and that 2028 pick isn't terrible all things considered.

Most likely somebody will bite and take Draymond and Klay with the hopes they can help a deep playoff run. PHI, MIA, MIL, LAL, LAC are all in win now mode fore sure. Maybe even DAL too. You can't let Embiid or Luka walk. Gotta keep Giannis happy too.

 

[robson]

You saying this makes me think you haven’t watched the last few games. Grant is sometimes literally the only offensive option on the floor. Even in the Knicks game, where Ant was having a TERRIBLE night, just missing bunnies after having a great 1st shooting quarter, helped Grant score by drawing attention.

It’s the same feeling I get when I hear the whole “Ant is Me-J 2.0” (the most low-hanging fruit type of conjecture on this forum) narrative. I saw Scoot get two straight turnovers to start the game and really thought to myself, “this the dude people are clamoring to get rid of ‘Me-J’ over?”.

People who always have something to say about either Ant or Grant will miss them when Scoot gets a 10to game or the team consistently scores less than 100ppg for a stretch. Guaranteed.

Was this season supposed to be about youngs development or scoring over 100?

 

[Ha Seung-Boumtje-Boumjte]

Pepperidge Farm might remember, but I personally don’t lmao. Glad you’ve lived long enough to make that comparison though. You must’ve had quite a life. This comparison seems incredibly far fetched.


I’m not saying you’re wrong, and you’re completely entitled to your opinion, but where is all this coming from? From every comment I’ve seen, especially from Xavier fans, they rave about him having a SUPER work ethic and continuously take about his hustle. Do you know something no one else does? Please list an article or two, I’d actually be interested in seeing them to make better assessments. I literally can’t find one, I’ve only been going off game tape and opinions of people who are more familiar with his game. You sound like you’re describing Cam Whitmore, but I continuously see his name mentioned here as someone to bring in for one of our vets. As far as I’m concerned, everything you’ve said is conjecture.

While I appreciate your acknowledgment of my entitlement to an opinion, rest assured that my perspectives are often rooted in a comprehensive network of sources, extending into NBA team locker rooms through strategic connections, including with those on the janitorial staff. This insight allows me to form informed opinions that may differ from conventional views.

 

[Ha Seung-Boumtje-Boumjte]

I’m sorry, but this is a completely idiotic take. “Flamboyant fashion choices and social media presence.”

“Flamboyant fashion choices” is not a bad thing. Dennis Rodman, who’s likely from your era, was more flamboyant than any dude in the NBA right now. You sound like you’d also be against bringing SGA here, who’s probably the biggest fashion guy in the NBA right now. I swear I’ve seen Grant wear a skirt before.

How does the flamboyant clothing keep the rumor mill churning? Jones has like 7k followers on Twitter, and I can’t find an Instagram. So wtf are you criticizing him for? What social media presence are you speaking of? You might have Jones mistaken with someone else.

Let's address the confusion about Colby Jones' social media presence. It appears that you've not been blessed with the privilege of accessing his exclusive accounts. Trust me, they exist – it's like a secret club, and you, my friend, are unfortunately not on the guest list.

And for the record, I never said flamboyant fashion choices were a bad thing. I'm all for it! In fact, I heard Colby Jones once wore a tutu during warm-ups just to psych out the opposing team. But hey, maybe that's just an urban legend – or is it? You see, my sources are top-notch, including the most trustworthy janitors.

But back to you, dear critic. Your diligence in fact-checking is truly commendable, even if it's about as accurate as a blindfolded archer aiming for a bullseye. The only thing more impressive than your poor reading comprehension is your apparent ability to misinterpret my intentions. Bravo!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I feel like maybe some of the teams lusting after Siakam would settle on Jerami as a fallback. Sacramento is a key example: supposedly they were interested in him but he made it clear that he wouldn't re-sign with them and they refuse to give up the Good Murray Twin to get a rental.

I'm kind of intrigued by Vezenkov. I imagine the reason last year's Euroleague MVP is getting zero playing time is because he is likely the worst defender in the NBA by dint of not being an NBA-level athlete. But we're tanking! And we're shit at defense anyway! He's basically what Luka will be when he's 50, and I would see that as reason enough to tune in in another lost season.

Barnes is OLD but I see him as pretty flippable - he's the kind of guy a contender could absolutely use. For example:

For both picks, as both Kings and Sixers would violate Stepien, could this be got round with pick swaps?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Well I just looked at his previous comments, lord do I feel like an idiots LOL.

In my defense, I’ve always thought of trolling as a teenager thing. Didn’t realize someone likely between 40-60 would still feel the need to be edgy haha.

I don't think of him as a troll, just someone offering an alternate perspective on the universe.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Here's the thing. If this team still had Dame and CJ with Sharpe, Grant, Ayton, Walker, Thybule and Simons they are absolutely making the playoffs and possibly making some noise.

I tend to agree. And thus my creating of the thread this morning.

 

[BankTeller]

I feel like maybe some of the teams lusting after Siakam would settle on Jerami as a fallback. Sacramento is a key example: supposedly they were interested in him but he made it clear that he wouldn't re-sign with them and they refuse to give up the Good Murray Twin to get a rental.
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I'm kind of intrigued by Vezenkov. I imagine the reason last year's Euroleague MVP is getting zero playing time is because he is likely the worst defender in the NBA by dint of not being an NBA-level athlete. But we're tanking! And we're shit at defense anyway! He's basically what Luka will be when he's 50, and I would see that as reason enough to tune in in another lost season.

Barnes is OLD but I see him as pretty flippable - he's the kind of guy a contender could absolutely use. For example:
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For both picks, as both Kings and Sixers would violate Stepien, could this be got round with pick swaps?

First trade, I’d need Jones back if they’re giving a 1st and not two 1sts.

Second trade, I don’t think Philly gives up a 1st for Barnes. If Philly bites for a 1st, then I do like the second trade.

 

[blazerkor]

I don't know how but Joe just has to finish the blow up (trade Jerami and Malcolm) and I think Ant has nice value around the league so move his ass on as well because Ant doesn't make Shae or especially Scoot better. We need to just have a team of hustling young athletic players and the games will be more fun to watch, the blowouts will only be by 20 and we'll be on a much much better path.

Hell if I was Joe and I could make it work I'd trade Deandre to the Knicks for Mitchell, Founier and draft considerations and I would take a conditional first off of some team for Matisse as well. Rip it down to the young studs and roll forward with youth and picks...

The Thunder did not keep experienced players, they just went full youth rebuild. The guys whose names are bot some sort of Jalen weren't heralded before they played in the league. Also Shai didn't look much better than Shaedon in his rookie and sophomore years (check the fucking game logs).

The future looks bright if we'll let go of the past! Go Blazers!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Cronin sat on the Brogdon chip too long.

 

[kjironman1]

Wow? the last 5-6 games are pretty telling.

 

[BankTeller]

Cronin sat on the Brogdon chip too long.

Bunch of people here wanted to keep him. Don’t think any of those people think this, even if they’re wrong, lol.

 

[kjironman1]

Bunch of people here wanted to keep him. Don’t think any of those people think this, even if they’re wrong, lol.

I think he has shown what he can accomplish in the right situation. Not sure his value would change that drastically.

 

[BankTeller]

I think he has shown what he can accomplish in the right situation. Not sure his value would change that drastically.

Agreed, but I’m just saying.

I wonder if any of those guys in the “we need to keep the vets because winning culture, yada yada yada” have changed their stance.

 

[RR7]

I think he has shown what he can accomplish in the right situation. Not sure his value would change that drastically.

Too many fans treat trades like it's their fantasy football team, and if a guy has a bad two weeks, his value is shit all of a sudden. Every GM knows what brogdon brings and knows his injury concerns. This fluctuating value people seem to place on him, or most players really, is comical.

 

[BankTeller]

Yep. Part of my fear I’m touching on in another thread.
Many people want to trade the vets for picks and have a near full roster of rookie contracts.
I don’t see it working.

That wasn’t really my point. My point was fans seem to switch back and forth. When a player is good, he’s a valuable vet. When he has a bad game, he doesn’t give a fuck. We as fans all know what the situation is. Flipfloppers just irritate me, idk.

 

[kjironman1]

Agreed, but I’m just saying.

I wonder if any of those guys in the “we need to keep the vets because winning culture, yada yada yada” have changed their stance.

I’ve kind of been one of those guys. I like having a few good vets with great attitudes to mentor rookies and players that need guidance. I wouldn’t have a problem keeping him at all. I also understand the business well enough to know getting good value from him would be a positive as well.

 

[BankTeller]

Was this season supposed to be about youngs development or scoring over 100?

Look, I agree with you. I don’t mind not scoring over 100, and it should definitely be about developing the young guys.

But the same people who say this team needs vets to establish a winning culture are for some reason surprised that a couple vets can’t actually help young guys establish a winning culture when they don’t really even know how to play yet. Inconsistency irritates me. I’ve been ready to embrace the temporary losing for a long time, doesn’t seem like all of us are.

So yeah, that remark was more geared towards the people who say Grant and Ant are ball stoppers, but the offense absolutely looks better with them in the lineup. Not even a debate. The occasional 10ast game from Scoot or an occasional game where we win because we moved the ball a little better than usual won’t fool me.

 

[BankTeller]

I’ve kind of been one of those guys. I like having a few good vets with great attitudes to mentor rookies and players that need guidance. I wouldn’t have a problem keeping him at all. I also understand the business well enough to know getting good value from him would be a positive as well.

Lowry is just as good at being a vet as Brogdon. Those who want to keep Brogdon specifically are pointing to the fact that he can still play, which is the problem. They’re masking their desire to actually win a couple more games with their desire for ‘vet leadership’ to guide young guys.

Guys who are 10+ years older that have a good history of being good culture guys (Jared Dudley for a long time is a great example) all work as vets. Robin Lopez even could be that kind of guy. I remember as soon as Lopez got here, he immediately referred to Meyers as ‘his guy’, really upping the confidence of a guy who generally was aloof for most of his career.

 

[blazerkor]

Lowry is just as good at being a vet as Brogdon. Those who want to keep Brogdon specifically are pointing to the fact that he can still play, which is the problem. They’re masking their desire to actually win a couple more games with their desire for ‘vet leadership’ to guide young guys.

Guys who are 10+ years older that have a good history of being good culture guys (Jared Dudley for a long time is a great example) all work as vets. Robin Lopez even could be that kind of guy. I remember as soon as Lopez got here, he immediately referred to Meyers as ‘his guy’, really upping the confidence of a guy who generally was aloof for most of his career.

1000%

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

That wasn’t really my point. My point was fans seem to switch back and forth. When a player is good, he’s a valuable vet. When he has a bad game, he doesn’t give a fuck. We as fans all know what the situation is. Flipfloppers just irritate me, idk.

What is the difference between a flip flopper and someone who changed their mind based on more information? Come on now... Don't be so easily irritated. Not trying to bring politics into this, but did those who voted for Trump the first time but Biden the second irritate you also?

Look. I'm not changing my mind based on good vs bad play. Its the improvements or lack of, schemes, rotations, etc. I'm not seeing progression in almost anything other than Scoots timing(slowing down a bit).

3 years ago, I wanted Dame to retire as a Blazer and if I had my way, even today, I would still rather have that. So I don't think I'm flip flopping as much as addressing the current situation and understanding that we made mistakes in the past that are now coming back to bite us in the ass. And the key is I'm not seeing any decisions being made that are much different than the mistakes of the past. So with that said, Since we DONT seem to be changing much, I look back with 20/20 vision and wish we would have traded him 2-3 years ago, or not traded him at all.

Yes I understand trading him now(this last summer) is supposed to speed up the rebuild process, but i'm not seeing it unless we go full on rebuild, which, so far, we have not.

If you consider that flip flopping, then I don't know what to tell ya People change their minds based on more info all the time, both in personal and professional circumstances.