Exclusive NBA Trade Deadline Thread 2024

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Hoopguru said:
I didn't expect Brogdon or Grant to get moved at trade deadline when they will get more for them in the offseason.
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you don't know that

Sure seems to me, after watching NBA trading for 50 years that better trade packages are secured at the trade deadline than during the off-season; especially in terms of draft assets. But maybe my recollection is blurred

but I'm definitely disputing the assertion that 31 year old, often-injured Brogdon, with 2 seasons left on his contract, will have less value than 31-year-old-will-turn-32-twenty-games-into-the-season often-injured Brogdon with an expiring contract.
 
maxiep said:
You didn't hear about Giannis for a protected 2nd round pick? I can't believe Cronin passed!
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That would be a *massive* overpay to Thanasis.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Brogdon or Ant to any playoff team that would benefit from adding a competent guard. Orlando had long been my preference.

Yes, I understand that since Orlando didn't actually trade for a guard, we don't know what they would have offered for one. Still, I believe that a competent GM would have been able to negotiate a decent deal.
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Almost every trade was a minor trade. There's no evidence that they could've made a trade of Malcolm or Simons, that A: makes any sense whatsoever no matter WHO the GM is or B: had any legs.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Takes two to tango.
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Yes, I understand that that excuse can be trotted out any time a GM doesn't make a trade or sign a free agent. It doesn't work for sales people who don't make their quotas, and it doesn't work here. It is his job to find the right tango partner.
 
I have made myself pretty clear on why i do not like Cronin now I would LOVE for one of the Cronin lovers to give me a few good reasons why he is doing a good job and the direction he is leading this team into is a good direction. The problem is I do not think you can instead these type of fans buy everything that come out of his mouth as the gospel truth and eat it and praise the ground he walks on. I really hope I am wrong about Cronin and I am eating humble pie in a couple years but my gut tells me we will be spinning our wheels and still hip deep in shit of a rebuild that is doing little to nothing.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yes, I understand that that excuse can be trotted out any time a GM doesn't make a trade or sign a free agent. It doesn't work for sales people who don't make their quotas, and it doesn't work here. It is his job to find the right tango partner.
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lol it literally is his job to do it. so tired of this excuse. the same thing we hear every year, be it with draft picks, or ant, or dame, or brogdon. i'm convinced the dude doesn't have outgoing calls on his phone.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yes, I understand that that excuse can be trotted out any time a GM doesn't make a trade or sign a free agent. It doesn't work for sales people who don't make their quotas, and it doesn't work here. It is his job to find the right tango partner.
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Apples to oranges. Sales quotas for employers of products how how large of a market? 10 million buyers? 100 million buyers? Joe has 29?
 
People act as if Joes ONLY job is to find the trades that THEY(not Joe) thinks they should make and when he doesn't, he sucks at his job. There is a little bit more that goes into the GM position than simply making the trades the public things are there and should happen.
 
julius said:
Didn't say moves someone knows, but what trades that happened, should he have done some kind of counter offer?

WHO was traded that he should've traded for?

It's not like they missed out on Aaron Gordon or something.
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You're right it's much more obscure than that. It's like we didn't trade Aaron Gordon when it was obviously time to... like the Magic did. We aren't in win now mode so I'm not talking about a player we missed out on getting but more so the fact that the guys I want traded only have a limited amount of playoff victories left in their career that they can hypothetically contribute to. I doubt Malcolm or Jerami will ever have higher value than they just did but hopefully I'm wrong and you guys are right and Joe's inactivity will somehow pay off in the long run.

I want our team to be great. I think the best chance we have for that is years down the road after both Jerami and Malcolm will be past their prime.
 
wizenheimer said:
you don't know that

Sure seems to me, after watching NBA trading for 50 years that better trade packages are secured at the trade deadline than during the off-season; especially in terms of draft assets. But maybe my recollection is blurred

but I'm definitely disputing the assertion that 31 year old, often-injured Brogdon, with 2 seasons left on his contract, will have less value than 31-year-old-will-turn-32-twenty-games-into-the-season often-injured Brogdon with an expiring contract.
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whatever....
 
illmatic99 said:
Not when keeping the vet:

1. He plays 15-20 minutes more than Scoot.
2. He gets paid 23 mil.
3. His value will only get lower from today when he has one year less remaining on his contract.
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Scoot started earlier, he wasn't ready. It's pointless to throw him into the fire, watch him suck and then trade away anyone who might be a good role model and who allows him to come off the bench in a reduced role, as opposed to destroying his confidence. It's silly to assume the minute distribution will be the same throughout the entire year, especially once we've officially been eliminated. I disagree his value will only get lower. Scoot's once again questionable tonight with a left foot contusion. Trading away the other true point guard leaves you with what exactly? Simons? For all these reasons I'm okay with keeping him.
 
noknobs said:
Trading away the other true point guard leaves you with what exactly? Simons? For all these reasons I'm okay with keeping him.
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I want to scream.

WHO CARES ABOUT WINS/LOSSES this year?

Literally the only takeaways from this year are if Chauncey can develop the youngins. Barring that, I don't give a shit if we lose by 50+ every night.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Sit back and do nothing.

Different administration, same strategy

:breakdance:
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Fez, I would argue that our summer represented an entire season of transactions. Also, we don't know that the Blazers "did nothing". They may have been actively engaged, but our price wasn't met.

I'm not trying to argue with you; I agree rebuilds can be frustrating. It's worse when you have an ownership group intent on getting under the cap as a first priority. I would love to have seen at least three vets moved. However, I do also understand the notion of standing firm when you don't get players or salaries that will help with the rebuild.
 
LMFAO!!!!!

Anger control management can easily be googled.


Set unrealistic expectations, better expect to be dissapointed.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Apples to oranges. Sales quotas for employers of products how how large of a market? 10 million buyers? 100 million buyers? Joe has 29?
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Yes, that small market is part of the job he holds, a known constraint within which he must operate as part of the highly-coveted position he occupies. If he's not able to locate and close deals--either trade or free agent (when applicable)--despite those difficulties, then he doesn't belong in the position.
 
wins and losses mean JACK FUCKING SHIT

Only thing that matters with this team this year is how the young players grow plain and simple.

If Scoot is not starting after the all star break then every and I mean EVERY fan should be screaming at the top of there lungs that Billups should be fired ASAP.
 
I’m curious what people thought we could get for brogdon after watching the complete garbage that was just moved around between teams?
Not one meaningful trade package was given out today

Other than what the Knicks got from Detroit…but Detroit is Detroit
 
Another fun fact about our supposed "direction."

This team will have the 14th highest payroll in the league this year and finish 14th in its conference.

Too bad our absentee owner doesn't care about $ this year.
 
blazerkor said:
This question drives me nuts. It's the most preposterous defense for Joe's blatant inactivity during his tenure. None of us are in NBA front offices so we obviously don't know but what we do know is that Joe made moves that looked like a rebuild when he said he was trying to build a contender around Dame and now he's holding onto players who could help teams contend when he's telling us we're rebuilding. Give me a fucking break with the "what moves do you know he could have made" because I don't know, I just want the moves he does or doesn't make to follow the fucking narrative that he is telling us.

Tell me when that has happened? When has Joe told us the direction of the team and then made moves that seemed to help us build in that direction?
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"blatant inactivity"? Hmm. If I recall correctly, Joe may have done this and that this past summer. But, perhaps I'm wrong. Say...where's Dame? I haven't seen him suit up for us all season.
 
noknobs said:
Well then you're clueless and I'm glad you have no role in the front office. I could give two shits about wins this year, but I do care about player development and culture.
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and deliberately tanking the past three years shows you what from our front office exactly?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yes, that small market is part of the job he holds, a known constraint within which he must operate as part of the highly-coveted position he occupies. If he's not able to locate and close deals--either trade or free agent (when applicable)--despite those difficulties, then he doesn't belong in the position.
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He has made many moves in his short tenure.

To not make a move at one deadline and be considered not belonging in the position is super cutthroat.

Sure am glad you aren't my employer. :)
 
illmatic99 said:
Not when keeping the vet:

1. He plays 15-20 minutes more than Scoot.
2. He gets paid 23 mil.
3. His value will only get lower from today when he has one year less remaining on his contract.
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I would be surprised if Brogdon kept his minutes at this level. Clearly, we were showcasing him.
 
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