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PtldPlatypus said:
Yes, I understand that that excuse can be trotted out any time a GM doesn't make a trade or sign a free agent. It doesn't work for sales people who don't make their quotas, and it doesn't work here. It is his job to find the right tango partner.
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noknobs said:
Scoot started earlier, he wasn't ready. It's pointless to throw him into the fire, watch him suck and then trade away anyone who might be a good role model and who allows him to come off the bench in a reduced role, as opposed to destroying his confidence. It's silly to assume the minute distribution will be the same throughout the entire year, especially once we've officially been eliminated. I disagree his value will only get lower. Scoot's once again questionable tonight with a left foot contusion. Trading away the other true point guard leaves you with what exactly? Simons? For all these reasons I'm okay with keeping him.
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If a rookie/sophomore Dame had this Brogdon as his mentor as opposed to Earl Watson or Mo Williams, would he be better than the player he ultimately became? Because that’s what most of the “keep Brogdon” camp would have me believe—that only guys who can take minutes in the rotation can be good mentors. Again, not sure why Brogdon is a better mentor than, say, a multiple time AS like Lowry.

Are you really worried about Scoot’s confidence? Scoot’s confidence is only rivaled by Anthony Edwards among the young guys.
 
I was sort of resigned to the Blazers doing a whole lot of nothing at the trade deadline... the re-signing of Grant and the matching of Thybulle demonstrated that management has a different plan than what I would have had, and while the team has been worse than I expected this year, I was unfortunately confident that the team still thought it could have veterans play lots of minutes and it would be good for the future of the franchise so... yeah.
 
blazerkor said:
This question drives me nuts. It's the most preposterous defense for Joe's blatant inactivity during his tenure. None of us are in NBA front offices so we obviously don't know but what we do know is that Joe made moves that looked like a rebuild when he said he was trying to build a contender around Dame and now he's holding onto players who could help teams contend when he's telling us we're rebuilding. Give me a fucking break with the "what moves do you know he could have made" because I don't know, I just want the moves he does or doesn't make to follow the fucking narrative that he is telling us.

Tell me when that has happened? When has Joe told us the direction of the team and then made moves that seemed to help us build in that direction?
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People can always excuse kicking the can down the road with this. Joe's been excused with "there's nothing he can do" way too much, especially since "he's just cleaning up Olsheys mess" doesn't apply anymore.

I just want them to fully commit to a direction other than mediocrity, and it feels like they just want to gear up to make a play-in next season.
 
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kjironman1 said:
How do you "Heavily Protect" a second round pick?
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Probably top 55 protected or something. Last guy I remember us trading a pick like that for was Shabazz Napier. Wasn’t a great player, but he played here for two years and was fun for a little while. That’s more than anyone could ask for a pick that likely won’t even convey.
 
BonesJones said:
People can always excuse kicking the can down the road with this. Joe been excused with "there's nothing he can do" way too much, especially since "he's just cleaning up Olsheys mess" doesn't apply anymore.

I just want them to fully commit to a direction other than mediocrity, and it feels like they just want to gear up to make a play-in next season.
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I don't think the timeline for the rebuild is that soon. I was thinking at least another two drafts of being terrible.
 
illmatic99 said:
Another fun fact about our supposed "direction."

This team will have the 14th highest payroll in the league this year and finish 14th in its conference.

Too bad our absentee owner doesn't care about $ this year.
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This team is projected to be in the tax after using its draft picks this off-season.

Last time they were in the tax it resulted in dumping Powell and RoCo for nothing because the Blazers "had no leverage".

I'm worried it's going a similar route with one of our veterans.

Being projected to go into the tax for a rebuilding team is kind of ridiculous.
 
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maxiep said:
I don't think the timeline for the rebuild is that soon. I was thinking at least another two drafts of being terrible.
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I agree. That's exactly why they should've been eager to shop Brogdon and Grant for assets to help maximize the window that's 2+ years away.
 
BonesJones said:
I agree. That's exactly why they should've been eager to shop Brogdon and Grant for assets to help maximize the window that's 2+ years away.
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You just said you wanted us to compete for a play-in next season.
 
blazerkor said:
When has Joe told us the direction of the team and then made moves that seemed to help us build in that direction?
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Joe signed professional tankers. Cronin handed Simons and Grant long term deals. Portland now has 2 very talented players who are not All-stars, which makes tanking for a pick perfectly legal under the new CBA.

It's not easy finding extremely exciting NBA players that are cool with swallowing their love for the game to take an early vacation. This is where Cronin excels above the other NBA GM's. Here's a fat Jody Allen bag, now pretend your toe hurts, because Joe's lineup sure could use a better ping pong ball.

Will Ayton and Brogdon, maybe even Scoot become part of the cool kid's club? Yaaa, getting paid not to play is the one of the best incentives in the NBA. Offered much earlier in the season by Joe Cronin's rebuilding Trailblazers.
 
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maxiep said:
You just said you wanted us to compete for a play-in next season.
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No I didn't, I said "I just want them to fully commit to a direction other than mediocrity, and it feels like they just want to gear up to make a play-in next season."

Roster building should never be geared towards making a play-in, it should be about maximizing the chance to contend whether that's win-now moves or a rebuild.
 
BonesJones said:
No I didn't, I said "I just want them to fully commit to a direction other than mediocrity, and it feels like they just want to gear up to make a play-in next season."

Roster building should never be geared towards making a play-in, it should be about maximizing the chance to contend whether that's win-now moves or a rebuild.
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Thanks for the clarification.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
This answer drives me nuts. NONE of us are in the front office to know what was offfered and turned down, yet some act as though they know FOR SURE a decent offer was out there and Joe just MUST have passed on it for baffling reasons.


Do you not see the hypocrisy in your own post? Come on man.
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And none of us know how much Brogdons veteran mentorship has helped Scoot whatsoever. If we only spoke on things we know as a 100% fact, this forum wouldn't exist.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
LMFAO!!!!!

Anger control management can easily be googled.


Set unrealistic expectations, better expect to be dissapointed.
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Legit this, There are tons of posters here with stupid high expectations, either of players or the team. And then they have complete melt downs when the crazy shit doesnt happen. Maybe I am too casual of a fan, but I am not going to let a blazers loss or bad game ruin my day, definitely not this team. Maybe if it was some playoffs type stuff and we actually have a decent chance then maybe ill let it ruin my day but till then people just need to reeeeellaaaaaax.....
 
Blazinaway said:
Only consolation is Warriors did nothing to improve, gotta get in where you can...lol
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The Warriors are $90m over the cap, in 11th place, and didn't shave salary at the deadline. Not sure if that shows how committed their ownership is to winning or how badly their front office is screwing them in the future.
 
There’s part of me that’s disappointed. There’s another part of me that thinks Grant or/and Brogdon couldn’t have fetched us what we wanted.

Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don’t make just because.

This isn’t me being a Cronin apologist either. I think he’s been quite the boob in his time as head man.
 
BankTeller said:
If a rookie/sophomore Dame had this Brogdon as his mentor as opposed to Earl Watson or Mo Williams, would he be better than the player he ultimately became? Because that’s what most of the “keep Brogdon” camp would have me believe—that only guys who can take minutes in the rotation can be good mentors. Again, not sure why Brogdon is a better mentor than, say, a multiple time AS like Lowry.

Are you really worried about Scoot’s confidence? Scoot’s confidence is only rivaled by Anthony Edwards among the young guys.
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You're honestly comparing Dame to 19 (now 20) year old Scoot? lol.

EDIT: And yes I was worried about Scoot's confidence. The player I've seen for the majority of the year hasn't shown me confidence as a leading PG, especially with decision making. Just because he's vocal when he makes a play doesn't mean he's a confident player... But I think he's improving, it just takes time...
 
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Labinot41 said:
get ready to watch Grant and Brogdon again going for 40 shots combined in the 2nd half of the season
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Despite being a significantly better offensive player, Brogdon and Scoot basically take the same amount of attempts each game.

Grant and Brogdon don't even average 30FGA's a game, so averaging 40 the last half of the season seems incredibly unlikely. Would be willing to wager that doesn't happen.
 
yeah my stupid high expectations -- have a GM who knows what the fuck they are doing along with a coach and a plan that is not gibberish -- your right wtf was I thinking -- my bad

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