NEW STARTING LINEUP?????

[S&Jtimestwo]

ANDRE MILLER NEEDS TO BE STARTING!!!!!!! WHEN HE WAS INTRODUCED TO THE STARTING LINEUP...WE WON... BUT ROY COMPLAINED...SO BACK TO THE BENCH HE WENT BECAUSE ROY DIDN'T WANT TO CHECK THE 3 ON THE OTHER TEAM.....SO ROY WOULD RATHER LOSE THAN PLAY DEFENSE. ANDRE MILLER WILL GET US EASY FAST BREAK BASKETS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME SO WE DON'T START OUT IN THE HOLE....UH LIKE THE LAST TWO GAMES...WHICH BY THE WAY...WE LOST..MEMPHIS AND UTAH. WHAT'S THE COACH THINKING, HE PREACHED RUNNING AND FAST BREAKS, INSIDE TO THE POST FIRST, PENETRATION,, TO THE BASKET, ALL MAJOR FEATURES OF ANDRE'S GAME AND SERIOUSLY LACKING IN STEVE BLAKE'S GAME. STEVE BLAKE DOES NOT FAST BREAK, HE CANNOT PENETRATE AND WILL NOT PENETRATE, HORRIBLE PICK AND ROLL, AND WATCH HIM CLOSELY HE DOESN'T PASS TO THE POST UNLESS IT'S BLATANTLY OBVIOUS....MORE THAN 90 PERCENT OF THE TIME HIS FIRST PASS TO START THE OFFENSE IS GUESS WHO...BRANDON ROY...NO WONDER ROY WANTS BLAKE OUT THERE. WHAT DO THE RIPCITY BLAZERMANIACS OUT THERE THINK ABOUT THIS. JUST A REMINDER...HAS STEVE BLAKE EVER MADE THE FIRST BALLOT PAGE FOR GUARDS AND THE ALL STAR GAME VOTING????? ANDRE MILLER ALWAYS HAS....THE FIVE BEST PLAYERS SHOULD BE STARTING...NOT THE FIVE BEST FRIENDS

 

[B-Roy]

odenisgod, is that you?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Repped. This poster is the logical conclusion of the forumers here. This guy has got it all.

 

[illmatic99]

Welcome to RC2.

Agreed.

 

[Boob-No-More]

WHAT DO THE RIPCITY BLAZERMANIACS OUT THERE THINK

I think your Caps Lock key is stuck. It's the one next to the A. Give it push, just one mind you, and maybe I'll read your post next time.

BNM

 

[cdub503]

how many games has it been back to the normal line up? and how many have we won?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

LOUD NOISES!

 

[BBert]

how many games has it been back to the normal line up? and how many have we won?

Is there any chance that Nate might understand that it's the lineup, style, and substitution patterns to blame, not going away from the three guard lineup, that has the team out of sorts?

 

[cdub503]

i re read my post and it sounded like i wanted to wait.... i was actually more curious how many its actually been.... i dont like blake starting at all ive always wanted miller to start!

 

[Haakzilla]

dre

rudy

b-roy

lma

oden

w/ webstee, j-billa, and blakey rotating as the 6th man depending on game situations

 

[jlprk]

TAKE it EASY The caps-lock can be dangerous...it's not a toy ok? PUT IT DOWN before you hurt somebody.

 

[Boob-No-More]

TAKE it EASY The caps-lock can be dangerous...it's not a toy ok? PUT IT DOWN before you hurt somebody.

It's only funny until someone gets hurt...



then it's HILARIOIS.

BNM

 

[fumanchu]

dre

rudy

b-roy

lma

oden

I'm in favor of that. Nate has NEVER started Rudy. This lineup seems like it was the natural metamorphasis from the three guard lineup, but Nate swapped the wrong two guys.

At least Rudy would bring some much needed energy to the starters. He also huddled the guys at one point tonight, showing that he actually cares.

 

[Haakzilla]

I'm in favor of that. Nate has NEVER started Rudy. This lineup seems like it was the natural metamorphasis from the three guard lineup, but Nate swapped the wrong two guys.

At least Rudy would bring some much needed energy to the starters. He also huddled the guys at one point tonight, showing that he actually cares.

...I still can't figure out why they only used one lineup with Dre starting, that doesn't even make sense

 

[MIXUM]

whats the difference between blake and miller? blake cant hit threes anymore. so millers an upgrade.

 

[Public Defender]

I suggested a similar lineup of Miller/ Roy/ Fernandez/ Aldridge/ Oden a week or two ago. I still think it's a good move... Without Webster, you lose a little defense, but you gain a lot of offensive versatility.

 

[B-Roy]

I suggested a similar lineup of Miller/ Roy/ Fernandez/ Aldridge/ Oden a week or two ago. I still think it's a good move... Without Webster, you lose a little defense, but you gain a lot of offensive versatility.

Who's going to score on the bench? Blake? Bayless who barely plays? Cunningham? Martell "I must start" Webster? JOEL?

 

[Public Defender]

Bayless can score against any non-starter in the NBA, and he should be given some playing time to prove he was worth a lottery pick. Even if he doesn't drive all the way to the hoop and score - he forces defenses to move and adjust (much like Roy used to, and much like Fernandez can) - and that should open up opportunities for outside shooters (Webster and Blake). Anything you get from Pryzbilla and Cunningham is obviously gravy.

 

[B-Roy]

Bayless can score just against any non-starter in the NBA, and he should be given some playing time to prove he was worth a lottery pick. Even if he doesn't drive all the way to the hoop and score - he forces defenses to move and adjust (much like Roy used to, and much like Fernandez can) - and that should open up opportunities for outside shooters (Webster and Blake). Anything you get from Pryzbilla and Cunningham is obviously gravy.

I don't see him getting enough minutes to contribute. Webster, has historically been absolutely worthless when coming off the bench. Fernandez is just more suited to come off the bench.

 

[Public Defender]

I don't see him getting enough minutes to contribute. Webster, has historically been absolutely worthless when coming off the bench. Fernandez is just more suited to come off the bench.

Yeah, I'm not married to Fernandez over Webster - he's just a better player and more experienced and probably better suited to keeping his concentration over long stretches of playing time. Frankly, I think Nate's idea of using Fernandez in the 4th quarter with the "other starters" is the right idea - but Miller should be among the "other starters", not Blake.

 

[B-Roy]

Yeah, I'm not married to Fernandez over Webster - he's just a better player and more experienced and probably better suited to keeping his concentration over long stretches of playing time. Frankly, I think Nate's idea of using Fernandez in the 4th quarter with the "other starters" is the right idea - but Miller should be among the "other starters", not Blake.

Fernandez is definitely the better player, but you wouldn't be maximizing your players if you start him over Webster.

And Blake, I've defended him this whole time, but even with Andre Miller playing like dog doo, I just can't defend him anymore. He can't do anything anymore, and it's frustrating as hell.

 

[hasoos]

I am going to throw this out there, because I am not sure how many people have noticed it. Some people say the Roy/Miller thing has been tried, and some say it hasn't been tried enough. But if you look at the lineups ran this season (Including pre season) the only time Roy and Miller have been out on the court together as the starting 2 guards, without Blake in the lineup, was pre season. Every time they have played together in the regular season, Roy has been in at SF.

Not once has the lineup with Roy and Miller as the starting 2 guards, with an actual SF like Webster playing in the starting lineup.

In the pre season, we did it twice, losing once, and winning once.

Why haven't we ever ran them at their regular position starting together? Why is Blake always out there with them? Perhaps the problem isn't them together, but the problem is the other common denominator. Blake.

If the team is going to give it a chance, they have to give it a chance like it was meant to run. Not with 2 players out of position. That is a half ass bullshit approach to getting it done.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm in favor of that. Nate has NEVER started Rudy. This lineup seems like it was the natural metamorphasis from the three guard lineup, but Nate swapped the wrong two guys.

At least Rudy would bring some much needed energy to the starters. He also huddled the guys at one point tonight, showing that he actually cares.

Rudy started against Houston in the playoffs. That's the only time I can think of off the top of my head.

Anyway, I'm in favor of a

Miller
Roy
Webster
LMA
Oden

Webster isn't playing badly. In fact, he's been pretty consistent since he entered the starting lineup. He's playing lousy when he comes off the bench. I just wish Nate would give Miller a chance as the starting point guard, with Roy and Webster. It's ridiculous how faithful he's been to Blake.

 

[hasoos]

Rudy started against Houston in the playoffs. That's the only time I can think of off the top of my head.

Anyway, I'm in favor of a

Miller
Roy
Webster
LMA
Oden

Webster isn't playing badly. In fact, he's been pretty consistent since he entered the starting lineup. He's playing lousy when he comes off the bench. I just wish Nate would give Miller a chance as the starting point guard, with Roy and Webster. It's ridiculous how faithful he's been to Blake.

Yea Rudy did start against Houston in the playoffs. After never playing in the starting lineup all season, the time to do it for the first time was in the playoffs though? Hello McMillan. Maybe try running it as the normal once before the playoffs hit so when the shit hits the fan he actually knows how to run with those guys?

 

[Haakzilla]

Rudy started against Houston in the playoffs. That's the only time I can think of off the top of my head.

Anyway, I'm in favor of a

Miller
Roy
Webster
LMA
Oden

Webster isn't playing badly. In fact, he's been pretty consistent since he entered the starting lineup. He's playing lousy when he comes off the bench. I just wish Nate would give Miller a chance as the starting point guard, with Roy and Webster. It's ridiculous how faithful he's been to Blake.

...I would also be in favor of this...either way, Blake needs to be 7th or 8th man...PERIOD!!!

 

[B-Roy]

Yea Rudy did start against Houston in the playoffs. After never playing in the starting lineup all season, the time to do it for the first time was in the playoffs though? Hello McMillan. Maybe try running it as the normal once before the playoffs hit so when the shit hits the fan he actually knows how to run with those guys?

So Rudy shouldn't have started? Or Nate should have experimented with Rudy in the regular season?

IIRC, people were asking for Nate to start Rudy, he did, and Rudy failed to deliver.

 

[ehizzy3]

I'm in favor of that. Nate has NEVER started Rudy. This lineup seems like it was the natural metamorphasis from the three guard lineup, but Nate swapped the wrong two guys.

At least Rudy would bring some much needed energy to the starters. He also huddled the guys at one point tonight, showing that he actually cares.

last year in the playoffs rudy started a game.

 

[gatorpops]

I am going to throw this out there, because I am not sure how many people have noticed it. Some people say the Roy/Miller thing has been tried, and some say it hasn't been tried enough. But if you look at the lineups ran this season (Including pre season) the only time Roy and Miller have been out on the court together as the starting 2 guards, without Blake in the lineup, was pre season. Every time they have played together in the regular season, Roy has been in at SF.

Not once has the lineup with Roy and Miller as the starting 2 guards, with an actual SF like Webster playing in the starting lineup.

In the pre season, we did it twice, losing once, and winning once.

Why haven't we ever ran them at their regular position starting together? Why is Blake always out there with them? Perhaps the problem isn't them together, but the problem is the other common denominator. Blake.

If the team is going to give it a chance, they have to give it a chance like it was meant to run. Not with 2 players out of position. That is a half ass bullshit approach to getting it done.

Did Portland promise Blake a starting spot if he would come back and play for us afer Denver? Is that possible?

 

[RoyToy]

So the Blake/Roy/Webster/Aldridge/Oden starting lineup is 5-5. This is Nate's preferred lineup, totally ignoring the fact the Blazers were 7-2 with Miller as the team's starting PG.

Nate is smart.

 

[southnc]

Did Portland promise Blake a starting spot if he would come back and play for us afer Denver? Is that possible?

No, its not.

In fact, after Blake returned, Jack was the initial starter for the first 3 games - all losses.