New York @ Philadelphia

[Mr. J]

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Knicks 20-31 / 76ers 25-26</div>
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Date: 2/14/05
Time 7:00 (Eastern Time)
TV: MSG, NBALP</font>

<font size="4">Season Stats</font>

Previous Games:
Knicks: 102-99W vs Charlotte
76ers: 112-99W vs Orlando

Knicks
Record: 20-31 (.392)
Standings: Fifth, Atlantic
At Home: 13-12
On Road: 7-19

PPG: 95.9 Opp PPG: 99.5
FG%: .446 Opp FG%: .468
RPG: 40.7 Opp RPG: 42.2

76ers:
Record: 25 - 26 (.490)
Standings: Second, Atlantic
At Home: 14-9
On Road: 11-17

PPG: 101.0 Opp PPG: 99.9
FG%: .464 Opp FG%: .446
RPG: 40.4 Opp RPG: 42.6


*BOLD leader in particular stat.
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<font color="DarkOrange">Knicks Starters</font></font>
PG: Stephon Marbury
39.9pg 21.3ppg 3.0rpg 8.2apg

SG: Trevor Ariza
18.4mpg 6.2ppg 3.0rpg 1.4apg

SF: Tim Thomas
26.4mpg 10.3ppg 3.4rpg 1.3apg

PF: Kurt Thomas
36.8mpg 11.5ppg 10.1rpg 2.0apg

C: Nazr Mohammed
28.6mpg 11.4ppg 8.4rpg 0.5apg

<font size="3">Knicks Bench:</font>
Jerome Williams
16.2mpg 4.6ppg 3.6rpg 0.6apg

Jamal Crawford
36.4mpg 18.3ppg 2.7rpg 3.6apg

Penny Hardaway
24.9mpg 8.0ppg 2.5rpg 2.0apg

Mike Sweetney
17.6mpg 7.9ppg 4.7rpg 0.6apg

Jamison Brewer
10.3mpg 1.7ppg 1.2rpg 0.7apg

Vin Baker
8.0mpg 1.3ppg 1.5rpg 0.3apg

Bruno Sundov
4.7mpg 1.6ppg 0.9rpg 0.1apg

Complete Knicks Stats

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<font color="Red">76ers Starters</font></font>
PG: Allen Iverson
42.0mpg 29.7ppg 4.1rpg 7.6apg

SG: Kyle Korver
31.8mpg 11.7ppg 4.3apg 2.1rpg

SF: Andre Iguodala
32.2mpg 8.7ppg 5.9rpg 2.9apg

PF: Corliss Williamson
21.9mpg 10.5ppg 3.7rpg 0.9apg

C: Samuel Dalembert
23.5mpg 7.0ppg 6.9rpg 0.5apg

<font size="3">76ers Bench</font>
Marc Jackson
25.0mpg 11.9ppg 5.6rpg 0.8apg

Kenny Thomas
28.6mpg 11.3ppg 6.5rpg 1.7apg

Willie Green
20.7mpg 8.3ppg 2.7rpg 1.9apg

John Salmons
20.0mpg 5.1ppg 2.3pg 2.3apg

Aaron McKie
13.4mpg 1.6ppg 2.1pg 1.4apg

Josh Davis
7.5mpg 2.6ppg 1.6pg 0.5apg

Kedrick Brown
6.9mpg 1.5ppg 1.4pg 0.8apg

Kevin Ollie
7.4mpg 1.4ppg 1.0pg 0.8apg

Complete 76ers Stats


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<font color="Red">Injuries:</font></font>
<font color="DarkOrange">NYK:</font>

Allan Houston

<font color="RED">PHI:</font>

and

Glenn Robinson and Brian Skinner



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<font color="Green">Matchups:</font></font>
<font size="2">Point Guard</font>

vs.

PG: We have Stephon Marbury against Iverson in this matchup. Iverson just came off an AMAZING 60 point performance against the Magic on Saturday. So far this season, Iverson has been simply amazing and really should be the MVP but due to the Sixers struggles, he probably wont get it. He is developing into more of a leader that Philadelphia wants. This is probably his best season. So many people were talking about him never being the same with his injuries last season but yet again, Iverson proved them wrong. Now Marbury needs to try and contain Iverson. He can?t stop him however, making things harder for him and forcing bad shots will help us win. Marbury defense has been eratic in the season so far but it has to be good tonight. Marbury is a capable scorer but what good will it do if he scores 25 and Iverson matches it or even gets more? If Marbury gave Iverson some turnovers, a bad FG%, we will be good.


<font size="2">Shooting Guard</font>

vs.

Kyle Korver and Ariza is a good matchup too. Nets traded him to the Sixers for cash only! I don?t know what?s the bigger steal Ariza as the 43rd pick or him. Actually I think Ariza is. Anyway, the defense has to be extra tight when playing Korver. So many teams focus on Iverson and Korver makes them pay from with the jumpshot and especially from the land of plenty. Korver sometimes has trouble creating his own shot and if Ariza puts the pressure on him and exploits that height mismatch to the fullest I see some serious trouble for Korver. Ariza?s is quick and is very athletic as well which should be used in this game. If Ariza can take out Iverson?s right hand man it will collapse the perimeter and we can focus more on locking up the paint.

<font size="2">Small Forward</font>

vs.

SF: At the 3 we have Andre Iguodala against who Tim Thomas just hit the game winner last game against the Bobcats yesterday. Look for him to exude a great deal of confidence against the Sixers. Hopefully this will turn his season around so he can play decent basketball for this club from now on. What I don?t want him thinking he can take any shot he wants because of that game winner. Iguodala has been a great factor for the Sixers and is looking like a real steal. He can rebound well, pass well, and has tons of athleticism. Tim Thomas must make things tough for a good all around player. Why do I get this nagging feeling Thomas is not going to play defense tonight? I have no idea why. If Tim Thomas makes him shoot and forces turnovers on him, along with some good scoring, he can take him out the game. He has all the tools in the world to become an all NBA teamer, and hopefully these are one of the times that he shows us flashes on what he could be. He can take it down in the post against Andre as well because of the height difference and the strength. It?s all about playing smart and playing with effort tonight for Tim. Let?s see if he can do it.

<font size="2">Power Forward</font>

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PF: Corliss Williamson against our very own, Kurt Thomas. Kurt Thomas has been very good for us this year and I think is a good candidate in containing Williamson tonight. He is an undersized power forward is very strong, and still is able to score in the paint. Kurt Thomas? low post defense I think can match his low post moves. The only thing I am worried about is Williamson thriving because Kurt Thomas has to clean up behind the weak perimeter defense. We have seen this multiple times on unsuccessful defensive rotations. The perimeters defensive lapses cause the frontcourt trouble. Kurt?s night is partly dependant on everyone in the backcourt. What is a plus for him is Williamson?s defense is nothing to write home about. Marbury and Thomas always have this pick and roll they always keep on the down low. Someone like Corliss Williamson with lackluster defense can get outdone by Kurt Thomas. This will spread the defense and open up the middle for Marbury. Kurt Thomas is a key player in this game.

<font size="2">Center</font>

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C: This is definitely a great matchup. The history of these two as of late has really been fun to watch. These two have put up great numbers against each other. Dalembert as we all know is a shot blocker. With him plugging up the paint, the Knicks perimeter game has to be good tonight. This wont stop Marbury from penetrating, or Tim Thomas for that matter! Dalembert does not really have a polished offensive game so good defense along with that equals turnovers, low fg% which also equals an increased percentage of winning this game. This will be a good matchup between two good centers. I look forward to seeing this game first of all because it?s a Knicks game, second of all to see if Mohammed continues this thing against the Sixers even while hurt! It should be interesting guys!

<font size="3"><font color="DarkOrange">Knicks Bench Summary</font></font>
Well it?s a good thing we got back most of our bench. Allan Houston is still on the injured list with his knee. He vowed this season that he will return and be 100% like he used to. Anyway, we have a great spark off the bench in Jamal Crawford. Yesterday he had a good game in 33 minutes, 23 points and was the one who provided the 2nd quarter run. We also have Moochie Norris off the bench. He gives us good leadership and some decent shooting when people don?t take him seriously. Jerome Williams will have to be big for us again. Last time we remember that he was the catalyst in getting us back into the game after a 19 point deficit. The Knicks bench will have to be equally as good today as long as they play with the same heart that they played with last time. To quote odde23, ?It?s all about heart.? We have an opportunity to spark some momentum before the all-star break and only the heart will get us through.

<font size="3"><font color="Red">76ers Bench Summary:</font></font>
The 76ers have a decent bench. I don?t think as high powered as ours but, they have Willie Green, Marc Jackson, and Kenny Thomas. These role players no their jobs and help out the starters. The Knicks bench need to out do the Sixers bench. Other than Iverson, their bench is why they?re doing so well. If the Knicks can make this mostly a game of starters and their bench players do their part, I see us winning by a comfortable margin?yes even if we do play like bums in the end.

<font size="4"><font color="Green">Key Matchup:</font></font>
Crossing Over With Marbury and Iverson
?Starbury?

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?The Answer?
I think we all know this is the key matchup. Two off guards playing the 1. These two are trying to take the Atlantic division the only thing is while Iverson?s team is rolling, Marbury?s was just recently punished by the basketball gods for what he said about him being the best point guard in the league. Stephon Marbury needs to focus on the team and needs to be the catalyst as one of the leaders and captains on this team. As much as I love JYD, he really can?t do that every single game. That one time we were really fortunate that his heart powered up the whole team. We never saw Iverson lack confidence so you can imagine how much confidence Iverson will come out with tonight!! These are two prolific scorers, two great passers, two little men trying to lead two teams into the post season party. One?s heart will be bigger the other one will be crushed as they lose. Which one will it be? We?ll find out at 7!


<font size="4">My Prediction:</font>
This game is too important. The all-star break is coming up and even more importantly, against a division rival and to move up in the standings. The Sixers are the #8th seed in the eastern conference and we are only 4.5 games behind them. These are the type of games that can make or break our season. With that Bobcat victory I think we will come out with the wrong type of attitude. Or maybe we will just play our hearts out and get a victory. Remember last time when we played Philadelphia and went down by 19 points? That is very possible it happened once and it can happen again. The only thing is Allan Houston isn?t here to bail us out. We need to win this game but I just see us losing it. I don?t know it?s just a feeling. Hopefully if we come in with the right type of attitude and realize the importance of this game, we can win with a 105-97 fashion but, we might just lose it 105-93. I?m taking the win though. I think we can very well lose this game but, I?m just hoping we play well.
<font color="RED"><font size="4">THIS GAME IS A HALF HOUR EARLIER AT 7:00!!! </font></font>

 

[lil nba]

Cmon mrj18 this game is definetly ours there is noway we are going to let these sorry knicks beat us. AI is coming off a career high in points sooooooooooo cmon thes game is completely ours 100-85 Allen Iverson 35pts 10ass. 7rebs

 

[Mr. J]

Wow, okay I guess we will have to wait and see. Btw, I remember you. You were the very 1st PM I got. It was the 3rd game of the season and you said the Knicks will NOT win against the Sixers! Well we know how many times these sorry Knicks beat the Sixers this season including from a 19 point defecit in which a hurt Houston hit a 3 in the eye of one of your beloved Sixers to tie it. This very game cause some of your fellow Sixer fans to hate them temporarily. I can dig up the thread if you like.

Now I'm don't know who will win so I'm not pointing any finger but, if you were <font size="2">really</font> confiednt on your Sixers than Maybe a sig bet will do some good. If you win I'll wear an anti-Knicks sig for a week however, if I win you will have to wear an anti-Sixers sig for a week. Also if the Sixers win by 15+ points then I'll wear the sig for an extra week however, if I win then you have to wear one for an extra week. It's all up to you!

 

[KnicksUK]

Yeah, we'll lose.

Why is TT starting?! A game winning 3 isn't gonna fool people into thinking he's a good player! Will be a closer match than some others we've had this season but I don't think we have what it takes to win. Hope I'm proved wrong though!

 

[Penny]

Well remember it was the New York Knicks who made Allen Iverson have the worst game of his career last season, but somehow I doubt we'll have the same result this time round.
Nevertheless the New York Knicks are beginning to show more effort, but they still can't defend and ultimately I think that will cost them another loss.
I'm expecting Kurt Thomas | Penny Hardaway to have solid games, but I still don't think the New York Knicks will beat out the Philadelphia 76ers.

Philadelphia 76ers 96
New York Knicks 88

 

[Mr. J]

These calls are ridiculous!!! How do they expect us to adjust to the game when they keep on making those retarded calls? I am fed up Kurt, Marbury, JYD, and the rest of them have been killed because of fouls. Let's get the officiating straight!

 

[Penny]

Man Allen Iverson has hit for 31pts .................... could he go for 50pts? I think so.

But yeah all I read on 'Game Stats Live' is foul on Stephon Marbury | Jerome Williams etc .............. no wonder Allen Iverson is killing it.

 

[Knicks Analyst]

This officiating is horrible, the coaching is terrible, so is the defense. Iverson is smokin' us. This is a typical Knicks game. Too bad, I was looking forward to maybe a 2 game winning streak.

 

[jbbHardaway]

Iverson 33 pts now,....
hardaway have 4 pts in 4 quart now

Please, no need for updates like this. Also please do not double post. <font color="Blue">-Knicks Analyst</font>

 

[jbbHardaway]

hardaway have 4 pts in 4 quart now

 

[jbbHardaway]

lt's a exciting game on 4 quart!

 

[Knicks Analyst]

Knicks are coming back thanks to a big 3 from Penny.
Good game, but that recent call on Marbury was awful. Let me tell you that this is the most biased officiating I've seen all year. Pitiful.
Nice rebounding from Sweets though.

 

[jbbHardaway]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">Knicks are coming back thanks to a big 3 from Penny.
Good game, but that recent call on Marbury was awful. Let me tell you that this is the most biased officiating I've seen all year. Pitiful.
Nice rebounding from Sweets though.

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and Iverson is off fire~

 

[kdub]

damn i really thought the knicks had that one in the bag.

 

[Knicks Analyst]

Wow. What an ending. Mohhamed had .4 seconds in his hands and he immediately tossed it, he has to be more careful. And I've seen that bad late-game defense from Kurt before, when he comes off his man and loses interest and focuses on perimeter threats and it costs us. Here it really cost us.

 

[Mr. J]

We should have won but, Mohammed at the end

Good way to come back though. At least we tried. <font size="4"><u>WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT FOUL ON MARBURY AT THE END! THE OFFICIAL WAS RIGHT THERE!!!!</u></font>

 

[Knicks Analyst]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">We should have won but, Mohammed at the end

Good way to come back though. At least we tried. <font size="4"><u>WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT FOUL ON MARBURY AT THE END! THE OFFICIAL WAS RIGHT THERE!!!!</u></font></div>
Yeah, the reach-in foul from Iverson. I was screaming like a madman. *sigh*

 

[jbbHardaway]

Sweetney and Penny had play well in the 4 quart...but can't help the knicks win...
Is Mohammed had a alley-opp layup?

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<strike>MY GOD!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT????</strike> I get home and start watching the final minutes of the fourth quarter and I'm pleasantly surprised to see the Knicks doing well. Then JYD misses a critical free throw and that bad defensive play by Kurt Thomas. As soon as he saw the double team he should have covered Sweetney's man. Let's not forget Marbury's lousy play. Instead of taking it to the basket he took that jumpshot which of course missed. Then Nazr Mohammed misses that little shot. He should have hit it. I dont care what the hell he pulled. For someone making that much money he should have hit it. Those are the kind of plays he was brought in to make. I am very angry with him. I could have hit that shot...without jumping...for a fraction of the price. I cant believe we lost like that. The next play we draw up like that should be for Sweetney and/or Ariza at least they know how to finish.
Watch the caps. - <font color="Blue">Knicks Analyst</font>

 

[Mr. J]

Marbury Sweetney and Hardaway were huge for us. Hardaway had those jumpshots and a pass here and there. JYD helped us but that choke at the end was crucial. Had he made it we would have been in OT right now. It's interesting to see how we play when we have Crawford on the bench. I guess all of the idiots who were knocking on Sweetney can't say much. Anyway, I wish it hadn't gone in this fashion but it did. A heart breaker and a tough loss for us. I'm very dissapointed.

 

[jbbHardaway]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Marbury Sweetney and Hardaway were huge for us. Hardaway had those jumpshots and a pass here and there. JYD helped us but that choke at the end was crucial. Had he made it we would have been in OT right now. It's interesting to see how we play when we have Crawford on the bench. I guess all of the idiots who were knocking on Sweetney can't say much. Anyway, I wish it hadn't gone in this fashion but it did. A heart breaker and a tough loss for us. I'm very dissapointed.</div>

Crawford had a lot of time on the bench in 4 quart..but the knicks play better than one to three quart...and happy to see penny had season high 6 ast

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">MY GOD!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT???? I get home and start watching the final minutes of the fourth quarter and I'm pleasantly surprised to see the Knicks doing well. Then JYD misses a critical free throw and that bad defensive play by Kurt Thomas. As soon as he saw the double team he should have covered Sweetney's man. Let's not forget Marbury's lousy play. Instead of taking it to the basket he took that jumpshot which of course missed. Then Nazr Mohammed misses that little shot. He should have hit it. I dont care what the hell he pulled. For someone making that much money he should have hit it. Those are the kind of plays he was brought in to make. I am very angry with him. I could have hit that shot...without jumping...for a fraction of the price. I cant believe we lost like that. The next play we draw up like that should be for Sweetney and/or Ariza at least they know how to finish.</div>
Werd, Mohammed should have made that. If I was 6'10 I would have made that too.

It seems like I also forgot about Kurt giving Jackson that open LAYUP. I would not want someone like Thomas to do that. But, we have to remember him, Marbury, Nazr, TT (with the exception of yesterday) aren't really clutch.

Why is it that the Knicks always draw up last second shots for Nazr. Remember last year? Nazr missed that open layup, then dunked it instead of tapping it in for a win, then this year in Washington he choked, then in Chicago, then in Utah the missed freethrows, then today. What more evidence do they need then MOHAMMED IS NOT CLUTCH!!! Give me Crawford chucking up a contested 30 foot game winner at least it has a better chance of going in then Mohammed making an open 1 footer.

 

[VintageNYK]

<strike>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MAN ONE DAY IM GONNA STABB AND BEAT MYSELF UP FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT TO WATCH KNICKS GAMES AND GET SO HAPPY AND EXCITED BUT THEN GET DISSAPOINTED AND STOMPED ALL OVER ON BY THE OTHER TEAM AND THE KNICKS BAD CRUNCH TIME PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</strike>

........

Phew, it was good to get that off my chest...lol

But seriously, this is one of the worst games I have watched this season. And not as much as the Knicks play....but the feeling I had once it was done. I was just sitting there....not moving at all....still...stunned. My little brother barely said anything. When they showed the final score once the game was over, we were frozen stiff. But anyway, to the game....

As everyone has said, Sweetz and Penny played well for us. JYD was huge in the 4th, but that crucial free throw miss lead up to what you see as the final score. Marbury played crazy good, but dont know why he wasted so much time on that play. He seems to do that a lot or choke in the clutch. He shouldve taken it to the lane or at least started early when I think about it. He seems to stray away from what hes good at when the games so close and sometimes on the line. Now Nazr...yes, Id like to go crazy on him too. But it was kinda difficult, he was kinda well-defended, and he didnt get that high, probably because his groin. But maybe he did have more time to get a better shot at the rim, but he took it. I dont doubt him, because I might have shot it at that moment too. But like one said, with the money he''s making, and for the city he's representing and the team's he's playing for, he HAS to make that. All in all, this was a dagger to my heart and my NYK pride. But no matter what, Im still gonna keep on keepin' on, and so should the Knicks.

Do not type in all caps like that again. I will leave it there as a reminder. It's against the guidlines and you are running risks with such stuff as that.
<font color="Blue">-Knicks Analyst</font>

 

[Mr. J]

^Excellent post Tha Knick, you should really do more.

 

[jbbHardaway]

sorry for all knicks fans....i come from hong kong.so i can't see lots of knicks live game and my english is not good bacuse i only 14 years old....sorry!

i only can see live score in nba.com..

 

[VintageNYK]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">^Excellent post Tha Knick, you should really do more.

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lol haha thanks man. Ya, I dont post that much nowadays, but occasionally I post. And I had A LOT to share and talk about when this game was over. And having a long and somewhat emotional coversation with yming2k4, I had a lot more to say. And that extra stuff was basically how no matter how bad it gets, I will <strike>NEVER</strike> stop watching, and <strike>NEVER</strike> stop supporting. Bashing, sometimes, yes. lol But I will never stop supporting. I have too much NYK pride in me for that.
Please, watch the caps. Again. -<font color="Blue">Knicks Analyst</font>

 

[jbbHardaway]

i saw the recap on nba.com

<font color="DarkRed">The Knicks had a chance to win as Penny Hardaway found an open Nazr Mohammed with a lob pass</font>. But Mohammed, nursing a severe groin strain, could not convert, dropping New York to 8-16 in games decided by six points or less.

again??i remember penny had lob pass to Nazr Mohammed vs sixers last season too

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tha Knick:</div><div class="quote_post">lol haha thanks man. Ya, I dont post that much nowadays, but occasionally I post. And I had A LOT to share and talk about when this game was over. And having a long and somewhat emotional coversation with yming2k4, I had a lot more to say. And that extra stuff was basically how no matter how bad it gets, I will NEVER stop watching, and NEVER stop supporting. Bashing, sometimes, yes. lol But I will never stop supporting. I have too much NYK pride in me for that.</div>
That's great man. It shows your true colors when you can support a team that has a bad record and isn't doing well. Seeing that you live in New Jersey, I know it is quite easy to start liking the Nets. You're staying true...to the orange and blue. I respect all Knick fans but especially the diehard ones.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Why is it that the Knicks always draw up last second shots for Nazr. Remember last year? Nazr missed that open layup, then dunked it instead of tapping it in for a win, then this year in Washington he choked, then in Chicago, then in Utah the missed freethrows, then today. What more evidence do they need then MOHAMMED IS NOT CLUTCH!!! Give me Crawford chucking up a contested 30 foot game winner at least it has a better chance of going in then Mohammed making an open 1 footer.</div>

They draw up those kind of plays for him because that's what he was brought in to do as an athletic big man. Isiah didnt bring him in for his post up play. Isiah traded for him so he can rise to the occasion(and the basket) and bail the Knicks out. He is not living up to his end of the bargain and it's pissing me off!

 

[VintageNYK]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">That's great man. It shows your true colors when you can support a team that has a bad record and isn't doing well. Seeing that you live in New Jersey, I know it is quite easy to start liking the Nets. You're staying true...to the orange and blue. I respect all Knick fans but especially the diehard ones.

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Yeah man, I find myself being luured into liking them sometimes. But I cant, Im a Knickerbocker! lol

But yeah, I will always have the NYK in me. And somehow, I still have hope for this season....somehow....lol