Next seasons team??

[jkidd]

Center: nenad krstic
Powerforward:???
Small forward: Richard jefferson
Shooting guard: Vince carter
Point guard: jason kidd


as you can see most of the 1st 5 are filled up with quality players. but i think we still need a real powerforward like what martin did for us last season. i heard garnett wants out of the wolves. what does it take to get garnett sign with the nets next season? do you think we can get him with out trading one of out big trio? if not who in the trio is the best to give up just to get garnett?

another missing component in the team roster this season is lack of depth in the reserve.

who in the the present reserve list you want out next season?

Mercer: for me if he can stay healthy he would do just fine. but if they can get a more legit shooter i wont mind giving him up

Robinson: im not quit sure they will bring him back for another yr. because of his age. 38 i dont think the management would shell out big bucks for an aging warrior.

Best: i like him to be back next season

Vaugh: i like him back too.

Z: i really want them to kick this guy out i affectionally call him "sloppy joe" because of how he handles the ball and just his basketball skills

Buford: Out, they should get a pure shooter for his place.

Smith: OUT, theres alot more quality bigman than this bloke

Scalabrine: im not quit sure if i want this guy out come on his the "peoples choice" he3x! but if they can get a better one why not right!

Thomas: he might be a good addtion to the training pool and lets see it from there. i have seen his potential in his escapades in the internatinal league particularly in the Philippine basketball.

in short we need a TRUE BIGMAN that can do the dirty works block shots, rebound and a defensive threat in the paint. a TRUE SHOOTER that can shot the ball with great acuracy in all floors esp. in the 3 point area. if this issues will be resolved b4 the start of the next season a championship will be an arms reach.

 

[QbanBalla15]

the only problem with kg is cap money i dont no r spending money but its prob. not enough to get garnett. As for all the other moves you were quite accurate although i wasnt to dissapointed with robinson this year

 

[raptors4life]

That's a crazy lineup. Damn you new jersey, YOU STOLE OUR VINCE! lmao.

 

[jkidd]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting QbanBalla15:</div><div class="quote_post">the only problem with kg is cap money i dont no r spending money but its prob. not enough to get garnett. As for all the other moves you were quite accurate although i wasnt to dissapointed with robinson this year</div>


that what i think to they gave alot of there cap space just to get Vince. but just wishful thinking if ever they got garnett and the trio will be intact well i all i can say to the other team watch out for the nets.

Robinson i might be wrong but if ever they sign him up for next season im almost certain that a 2 yrs contract would be the longest they will give him

 

[jkidd]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting raptors4life:</div><div class="quote_post">

That's a crazy lineup. Damn you new jersey, YOU STOLE OUR VINCE! lmao.</div>

how can you say thats a crazy line up man! i think it would be a very potent combination. as for vince we did not steal him from you guys. he wanted OUT and it just so happend that we won the trade deal.

 

[QbanBalla15]

U no i just was watching a clip of the nuggets game. Y not trade 4 Nene hes a great talent and hes a guy who kan clean the boards 4 us because that lineup lacksa rebounder

 

[jkidd]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting QbanBalla15:</div><div class="quote_post">U no i just was watching a clip of the nuggets game. Y not trade 4 Nene hes a great talent and hes a guy who kan clean the boards 4 us because that lineup lacksa rebounder</div>

nene would do just fine i think but theres alot more talent out there that we can get. by the way is nene a free agent next season?

 

[QbanBalla15]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jkidd:</div><div class="quote_post">nene would do just fine i think but theres alot more talent out there that we can get. by the way is nene a free agent next season?</div>


another possibility is stromile swift hes a tell pf that cud turn into a stud theyd be the most uptempo team in the east(mayb miami)

 

[jkidd]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting QbanBalla15:</div><div class="quote_post">another possibility is stromile swift hes a tell pf that cud turn into a stud theyd be the most uptempo team in the east(mayb miami)</div>

yes his also on top of my wish list next season. he will be a great addition to the team.

ill post the top 15 free agent next season. in the powerforward position,center and a shooting guard in my next post

 

[jkidd]

Top 15 CENTER FREE AGENT NEXT SEASON

. Shaquille O'Neal (Player Option)
2. Eddy Curry (Restricted)
3. Zydrunas Ilgauskas
4. Samuel Dalembert (Restricted)
5. Dan Gadzuric (Restricted)
6. Jerome James
7. Zaza Pachulia (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
8. Clifford Robinson (Team Option)
9. Steven Hunter (Player Option)
10. Peja Drobnjak (Team Option)
11. Alonzo Mourning
12. Vitaly Potapenko
13. Dikembe Mutombo
14. Andrew DeClercq
15. DeSagana Diop (Restricted)

well i dont think we can get shaq. so heres my list of potential bigman that can help us out.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas: i just dont know if cavs will release him
Samuel Dalembert, eddy curry

 

[jkidd]

TOP 15 FREEAGENT POWERFORWARD

1. Shareef Abdur-Rahim
2. Antoine Walker
3. Tyson Chandler (Restricted)
4. Stromile Swift
5. Keith Van Horn (Player Option)
6. Udonis Haslem (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
7. Donyell Marshall
8. Reggie Evans (Restricted)
9. Danny Fortson (Player Option)
10. Kwame Brown (Restricted)
13. Chris Andersen (Player Option)
14. Othella Harrington
15. Austin Croshere (Player Option

top of my wish list:Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Stromile Swift, Antoine Walker,Donyell Marshall

 

[jkidd]

TOP 15 FREE AGENT SHOOTING GUARD

1. Ray Allen
2. Michael Redd (Player Option)
3. Larry Hughes
4. Joe Johnson (Restricted)
5. Cuttino Mobley (Player Option)
6. Eddie Jones (Player Option)
7. Bobby Jackson (Team Option)
8. Kerry Kittles
9. Latrell Sprewell
10. Ronald Murray (Restricted
11. Willie Green (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
12. Jon Barry
13. Casey Jacobsen
14. DerMarr Johnson
15. Juan Dixon (Option

my wish list: Ray Allen,Michael Redd, Cuttino Mobley

 

[raptors4life]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jkidd:</div><div class="quote_post">how can you say thats a crazy line up man! i think it would be a very potent combination. as for vince we did not steal him from you guys. he wanted OUT and it just so happend that we won the trade deal.</div>
chill. i was playin'.

 

[jkidd]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting raptors4life:</div><div class="quote_post">chill. i was playin'.</div>

ok man! just got carried away! peace

 

[Henacy]

J.Kidd please do not double post like that. Next time use the edit button.-Henacy

My top three to answer our needs.....


Power Forwards

1. Stromile Swift
2. Tyson Chandler
3. Reggie Evans

I can live with: Shareef Abdur Rahim

I would like to spend the little cap space we have on an athletic 4, but if we were to get a Center....

1. Eddy Curry
2. Sam Dalembert
3. Steven Hunter

Can live with: Jerome James

I dont think we should over spend for a shooting guard...just someone cheap, who can stretch the defense.

1. Kerry Kittles (if he would return for cheap in a bench role)
2. Casey Jacobsen
3. Jon Barry

Can live with: A healthy Rodney Buford returning, he played well before his injury. But once he returned he could never find his role on the roster.

Mercer, Scalabrine, Billy Thomas, Jabari Smith, should all be gone...if we can trade Zoran for a 2nd round pick that would be great,

Definately want Travis Best back, if I had to choice between Best and Vaughn, Jacque would be out...While Jacque Vaughn played well along side Kidd, next year that role wont be their with a healthy Jefferson back, their wont be much time to play a small backcourt. And Best plays the better of the two as far as checking in for Kidd. He puts pressure on defenses with his ablity to get to the hoop off the dribble and score.

 

[raptors4life]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jkidd:</div><div class="quote_post">ok man! just got carried away! peace</div>

i just realized how funny our little "argument" was

 

[Ma3oxuct]

I just finished watching the Wizards game, and I am wonder, would it be worth it to get Kwame Brown for say a first round draft pick?

The guy is big and skilled, and I am sure that he might take advantage in New Jersey to start playing hard and making a name for himself. In a best case scenario, Brown would come over, Kidd as his mentor, Frank pushing him, and rise to his potential. Do you think that this could be a realistic scenario?

 

[jkidd]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting xpehbamxyu:</div><div class="quote_post">I just finished watching the Wizards game, and I am wonder, would it be worth it to get Kwame Brown for say a first round draft pick?

The guy is big and skilled, and I am sure that he might take advantage in New Jersey to start playing hard and making a name for himself. In a best case scenario, Brown would come over, Kidd as his mentor, Frank pushing him, and rise to his potential. Do you think that this could be a realistic scenario?</div>



you will never know how good a guy can be till you got him in your team. so its like your playing a lottery you will never know if you got the winning combinations. but if ever they will get his services i just hope it turns out for the best

 

[DragonKid]

i love this one..
C:Nenad Krstic
PF:Shareef Abdul-Rahim
SF:Richard Jefferson
SG:Vince Carter
PG:Jason Kidd

I prefer Rahim to swift because Rahim has a better techique, Swift is just an athlete, that is not enough keep the jersey in competition with Heat & Pistons.

Otherwise, I love Marshall too, he can rebound and make three..but he is a little old.

next season , i would say the ranking of top three in Eastern is still HEAT,PISTONS and NETS...

 

[bronbron23]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting xpehbamxyu:</div><div class="quote_post">I just finished watching the Wizards game, and I am wonder, would it be worth it to get Kwame Brown for say a first round draft pick?

The guy is big and skilled, and I am sure that he might take advantage in New Jersey to start playing hard and making a name for himself. In a best case scenario, Brown would come over, Kidd as his mentor, Frank pushing him, and rise to his potential. Do you think that this could be a realistic scenario?</div>

I like this idea Kwame is fast so he would work well in a fast team like the nets.

 

[kobimel]

I would rather Swift than Kwame and Abdur-Rahim for his athletisim and his ability to run on the fast break, something Kwame and Shareef can't do well, which will be a huge plus because he will be working with Kidd and a team that loves to run.

 

[Henacy]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobimel:</div><div class="quote_post">I would rather Swift than Kwame and Abdur-Rahim for his athletisim and his ability to run on the fast break, something Kwame and Shareef can't do well, which will be a huge plus because he will be working with Kidd and a team that loves to run.</div>

Exactly!!, Kwame does not have that type of athletism. I think playing the four spot in the NBA nowadays you have to be extremely athleitc like a Kenyon Martin or Amare(he is really a 4) or extremely skilled & verstale like a KG or TD. Swift is the closet thing to having that Kenyon Martin type athletism.

I wouldnt do any type of deal with Washington, where they sign Brown & trade him to us for picks off the simple fact we already invested alot into Collins, who like Brown doesnt really have the athletism to fit into our style. So why invest into it again?

 

[Shapecity]

As long as the Nets have to worry about Shaq in the East, they should concern themselves with getting more size up front and a player capable of scoring in the post against him. Having an athletic PF is great for the regular season, but in the playoffs they won't be as effective. The Nets need guys like Reggie Evans, Potapenko, and Diop to bang inside against the big centers.

 

[stkf]

<ul>
[*]Shareef Abdur-Rahim
[*]Antoine Walker
[*]Tyson Chandler
[*]Stromile Swift
[*]Udonis Haslem
[*]Reggie Evans
[*]Danny Fortson
[*]Donyell Marshall
[*]Kwame Brown
[/list]


those are just some of the PF's left...

 

[Henacy]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">As long as the Nets have to worry about Shaq in the East, they should concern themselves with getting more size up front and a player capable of scoring in the post against him. Having an athletic PF is great for the regular season, but in the playoffs they won't be as effective. The Nets need guys like Reggie Evans, Potapenko, and Diop to bang inside against the big centers.</div>

I disagree with you on this one...for the simple they went to 2 NBA finals with the system of having athletism a the 4 spot. I dont think you adjust your style simply because Shaq's in the East now, especially when your best player which is still Jason Kidd cant play in the halfcourt, you need to surround him with the type of team that would make him most effective. And that is a runing team, which requires athletism at the 4spot. What was the main thing missing in the Nets fastbreak vs Miami...the fact their bigs couldnt get past half-court converting from defense to offense, so Shaq never had to run. As Shaq gets older and more injury prone, teams with athletic bigs are going to give more and more problems.

I like Reggie Evans. But Diop or Potapenko type players have size. But they wouldnt be off much use against Shaq, because Shaq still uses his size and body to well, and nobody in the league is close of enuff to deal with that...quickness is what going to give him problems from here on out.

 

[Shapecity]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">I disagree with you on this one...for the simple they went to 2 NBA finals with the system of having athletism a the 4 spot. I dont think you adjust your style simply because Shaq's in the East now, especially when your best player which is still Jason Kidd cant play in the halfcourt, you need to surround him with the type of team that would make him most effective. And that is a runing team, which requires athletism at the 4spot. What was the main thing missing in the Nets fastbreak vs Miami...the fact their bigs couldnt get past half-court converting from defense to offense, so Shaq never had to run. As Shaq gets older and more injury prone, teams with athletic bigs are going to give more and more problems.

I like Reggie Evans. But Diop or Potapenko type players have size. But they wouldnt be off much use against Shaq, because Shaq still uses his size and body to well, and nobody in the league is close of enuff to deal with that...quickness is what going to give him problems from here on out.</div>
And what happened in those Finals? THEY LOST! Whether it was Shaq or Duncan, the Nets got destroyed inside. Just look at what happened to the Nuggets. They were beaten soundly on the inside by Duncan and Nazr Mohammed. The combination of Camby-Nene-Martin, talented, athletic big men doesn't work in the playoffs. You have to have balance, because the better teams are able to play in the half-court as well as uptempo.

No one is going to stop Shaq, but Diop and Potapenko can be had for relatively cheap. Shaq is aging and the injuries are catching up to him, but Shaq at 50% is still better than most bigmen in the league. Any team in the East has to be concerned with Shaq if they plan on getting deep in the playoffs in the next 2 or 3 years. Shaq said he wants to play another 7 years after his current contract expires. He's already shown he can drop weight, so what if he slims a little more and works on his conditioning. He might actually be around for longer than most expect.

The main thing missing was the Nets couldn't stop the Heat when they needed to. The Heat pretty much did what ever they wanted in the series, and Shaq was a big reason for it. And when it wasn't Shaq, it was Alonzo taking control of the paint.

Even if you want to overlook Shaq, what about the Pistons. They have size and depth up front, as do the Pacers and Celtics. Plus the duo of Chandler & Curry are only going to get better if the Bulls decide to keep both of them.

 

[Henacy]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And what happened in those Finals? THEY LOST!</div>

Your right they lost in the finals. But that wasnt because they were athletic rathen being big cause when they played LA they actually had size Todd Macolluh(misspelled) was hear then and he had pretty good size. The Nets lost against the Lakers & Spurs because a lack of quality depth at those bigman spots and that is a totally differennt discussion all together, cause no matter whether you go with athletic bigs or bigs with size if it isnt quality then you dont stand a chance against Shaq/ TD, Robinson






<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Just look at what happened to the Nuggets. They were beaten soundly on the inside by Duncan and Nazr Mohammed. The combination of Camby-Nene-Martin, talented, athletic big men doesn't work in the playoffs. You have to have balance, because the better teams are able to play in the half-court as well as uptempo.</div>

I agree Balace is the key to having a special team but name how many bigs are available to the Nets that would provide that proper balance? Guys like Potapenko and Diop arent because when they can bang on one end. They become a liablity on the other end. Shaq will never have to play defense, never have to run back on d, cause those guys just arent threats on the other end. So Shaq will rest on defense and become even more devastating on the offensive end, because of the lack of energy he had to use on the other end of the floor.


And as for the Denver San Antonio series, Duncan was extremely up & down during that series. And San Antnio was able to win games where he wasnt even that much of an offensive fact. San Antonio won that series for several different reasons, Denver's best player Carmelo Anthony could not do anythig against Bruce Bowen until game 4, after game 1 Andre Miller did a poor job of dictating point guard play, Giniboli was a killer off the bench etc.



<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">No one is going to stop Shaq, but Diop and Potapenko can be had for relatively cheap. Shaq is aging and the injuries are catching up to him, but Shaq at 50% is still better than most bigmen in the league. Any team in the East has to be concerned with Shaq if they plan on getting deep in the playoffs in the next 2 or 3 years. Shaq said he wants to play another 7 years after his current contract expires. He's already shown he can drop weight, so what if he slims a little more and works on his conditioning. He might actually be around for longer than most expect.</div>

I think you are always concerned with Shaq, no matter what conference. But you cant think about that as an odjective when making front office decisions. if you are a team that wants to get out & be moible, you cant add a buch of slow cats that wont be effective in your style just because you may or may not face Shaq down the line in my opinion.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The main thing missing was the Nets couldn't stop the Heat when they needed to. The Heat pretty much did what ever they wanted in the series, and Shaq was a big reason for it. And when it wasn't Shaq, it was Alonzo taking control of the paint.</div>

Right, but I think with athletism on the frontline it allows you to do different things on defense to get stops. Most athleitc bigs are shot blockers that would have an effect on some of that penetration by Wade, also athletism helps you compete on the board better etc.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Even if you want to overlook Shaq, what about the Pistons. They have size and depth up front, as do the Pacers and Celtics. Plus the duo of Chandler & Curry are only going to get better if the Bulls decide to keep both of them.</div>

There is no denying you need depth in your frontcourt. It just doesnt have to be guys who are slow and dont fit in with what you want to do with your team concept The Pistons frontline is one of athletism and size. And I think that is the perfect combination. But guys like Diop etc arent....and very few bigs in this league have such a combination of the two, so if you have to chioce between someone like Swift or someone like Doip & Potepnko, you go with Swift no only because he is a better player. But also because he is a better fit for the Nets concept.

 

[Tesh15]

stromile swift will fit with nets at day 1 if nets try to sign him in offseason

 

[jbbNJNetz]

The Nets needs to break the curse of off season bust. And players we always release comes to hunt us like stephen jackson and damon jones (wasnt he on our roster it was nice that he found a home)

 

[Courtking]

Samuel Dalembert and Stromile Swift should both fit great in the Nets system of fast break. They are both similer players but I would prefer Dalembert over Swift. If the Nets can develop Dalembert like a nice little hook shot that he can use he may be a top center in the east. Both players have the ability to block shots and get out on the fast break with Kidd, RJ, and Carter. It's going to be tough to lure Dalembert away from Philly though, but I think Philly can swing a sign and trade deal with some draft picks involved. You guys can be getting one specieal player if you can get Dalembert but be willing to pay the price because Philly isn't going to give him up easily.