NFL draft...

[yankeesince59]

...I'm not saying he's not a very good player, but does anyone else feel that Clowney was a bit over-hyped based mainly on that singular vicious tackle that he made last year?...espn must have played the clip 100 times.

...hell, the guy wasn't even blocked on the play.

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[Rick2583]

I was just happy to see that the ego-maniac punk ass known as Johnny football dropped all the way to 22nd.

 

[yankeesince59]

...the Raiders drafted an absolute monster.

 

[Messiah717]

I'll tell you what folks. I don't want to be a QB playing the Houston Texans with Watt and Clowney now on the ends.

 

[Hammerojustice]

I don't get the Giants pick... the OL was a much larger and more serious need than WR was... I don't get it...

I agree with Messiah though... Houston's D is going to be scary...

 

[Messiah717]

I don't get the Giants pick... the OL was a much larger and more serious need than WR was... I don't get it...

I agree with Messiah though... Houston's D is going to be scary...

My brother texted me right after the pick saying he didn't get it either. They must feel they can still get quality in the second round and didn't want to give up on what they felt was the best overall talent.

 

[Hammerojustice]

My brother texted me right after the pick saying he didn't get it either. They must feel they can still get quality in the second round and didn't want to give up on what they felt was the best overall talent.

I guess, but Martin was there... he would have been great...

 

[Messiah717]

I guess, but Martin was there... he would have been great...

True but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. They made a lot of moves in free agency so I will stick by what they're doing in the draft.

 

[Rick2583]

Now if Eli could be 1/2 the quarterback his brother is we'll be okay.

 

[Messiah717]

Now if Eli could be 1/2 the quarterback his brother is we'll be okay.

Denver fans wish Peyton could be half the QB Eli is in the Super Bowl lol.

 

[Rick2583]

Denver fans wish Peyton could be half the QB Eli is in the Super Bowl lol.

You mean like having his receivers make lucky catches.?

 

[Messiah717]

You mean like having his receivers make lucky catches.?

Still have to lead your team and make the throws brother.

 

[Rick2583]

Still have to lead your team and make the throws brother.

ANYONE can throw Vic. You can throw, I can throw BUT..............what Eli seems to have trouble doing (unlike big brother Peyton) is hitting his receivers.

 

[yankeesince59]

...Peyton, sure fire HOFer...Eli?...at this point, no chance.

 

[totus44]

...Peyton, sure fire HOFer...Eli?...at this point, no chance.

Want to put your moldy bag of cheetos on that? Eli will finish as HOF qb.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

...I'm not saying he's not a very good player, but does anyone else feel that Clowney was a bit over-hyped based mainly on that singular vicious tackle that he made last year?...espn must have played the clip 100 times.

...hell, the guy wasn't even blocked on the play.

[video=youtube;ENuZHnQlqX0]

I was just happy to see that the ego-maniac punk ass known as Johnny football dropped all the way to 22nd.

...the Raiders drafted an absolute monster.

I don't get the Giants pick... the OL was a much larger and more serious need than WR was... I don't get it...

I agree with Messiah though... Houston's D is going to be scary...

Now if Eli could be 1/2 the quarterback his brother is we'll be okay.

Denver fans wish Peyton could be half the QB Eli is in the Super Bowl lol.

You mean like having his receivers make lucky catches.?

No doubt Clowny was not worthy of the first pick, first round, WTF...!!!

I'm thrilled to see Ha-Ha-Clinton Dix go to Green Bay. What was his mother thinking with a name like that? Clinton's dix, during the Lewinsky affair...Ha-ha.

JFF, also as much over rated. I watched most A&M games, and still don't buy into Manziel's hype. Ha-Ha disagrees with JFF's ranking in this draft. Just what the Browns need. When will Cleveland get a clue?
Browns Drafted-Quinn, McCoy, Weeden, and still haven't found a QB. Go Figure.

I wished The Giants could of got C.J. Mosley, A. Donald, and Sammy Watkins (Watkins can catch a Scud Missle or anything thrown his way).

How in the hell did the Giants screw themselves out of #1 Draft Pick? The Giants must of traded away their pick in lieu of Free Agents? I'm lost, who did the Giants get in lieu of a #1 pick???? this can't be good methinks.

 

[Berra_10_W.S.Rings]

...I'm not saying he's not a very good player, but does anyone else feel that Clowney was a bit over-hyped based mainly on that singular vicious tackle that he made last year?...espn must have played the clip 100 times.

...hell, the guy wasn't even blocked on the play.

[video=youtube;ENuZHnQlqX0]

I was just happy to see that the ego-maniac punk ass known as Johnny football dropped all the way to 22nd.

I'll tell you what folks. I don't want to be a QB playing the Houston Texans with Watt and Clowney now on the ends.

I don't get the Giants pick... the OL was a much larger and more serious need than WR was... I don't get it...

I agree with Messiah though... Houston's D is going to be scary...

ANYONE can throw Vic. You can throw, I can throw BUT..............what Eli seems to have trouble doing (unlike big brother Peyton) is hitting his receivers.

I agree, Clowney as the 1st draft pick, is well CLOWNY.

IMO, Clowney is over rated, and over hyped. One hit does not make for a 1st round 1st pick. He never had the year last year, analysts said he would have, IMO.

Johnny F'ing football is as much over rated. (watch the SOB will prove me wrong, hope not).

I heard Archie Manning has been taking downs in his Son's Uni.

 

[Rick2583]

Want to put your moldy bag of cheetos on that? Eli will finish as HOF qb.

If he does it won't be because of his statistics. it'll be for the SBs

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Raider's landed Mack, who are they looking at for the 3rd pick in the 2nd round, anyone know?

 

[totus44]

If he does it won't be because of his statistics. it'll be for the SBs

You can keep a guy out with 1 SB victory...but not 2. Especially 2 vs. Another HOF QB.

 

[Rick2583]

You can keep a guy out with 1 SB victory...but not 2. Especially 2 vs. Another HOF QB.

Honestly I don't like seeing any individual getting credit on his resume for TEAM titles. Jeter was a PART of 5 world series but so were others. Eli didn't win 2 SBs the Giants did. JMO.

 

[yankeesince59]

Want to put your moldy bag of cheetos on that? Eli will finish as HOF qb.

...I said "at this point".

...and again, at this point, no way.




...HA!!!

 

[Messiah717]

Eli and the Giants are going to be in position to compete for another Super Bowl. I like with what I've seen in the first three rounds of the draft and they went all in with the free agent moves they made. They're built to complete for a title. It doesn't mean it happens but it would be a major disappointment if they didn't go to the playoffs this year.

 

[Messiah717]

ANYONE can throw Vic. You can throw, I can throw BUT..............what Eli seems to have trouble doing (unlike big brother Peyton) is hitting his receivers.

Peyton will finish his career as the greatest regular season QB of all time. When it comes to the playoffs not so much. Three SB appearances is nice but the last two have been nightmares for him. A dreadful pick six against New Orleans and then not much to say about Seattle. He simply doesn't get in the big playoff game discussion when compared to the all time greats.

 

[yankeesince59]

...mess, if you want to measure greatness by PS success, regardless of the sport, that's up to you.

...But Eli is not near the QB Peyton is.

 

[Messiah717]

...mess, if you want to measure greatness by PS success, regardless of the sport, that's up to you.

...But Eli is not near the QB Peyton is.

Never said he was which is why I specifically said when you compare Peyton's playoffs performances with the other all time greats.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_quarterbacks_with_multiple_Super_Bowl_starts

Retired Quarter-Backs with 2 Super Bowl Wins NOT in the NFL HOF:

Won-Lost
Plunkett 2-0
Theisman 1-1
Morton 0-2

Retired QB’s with 1 Super Bowl Win-NOT in HOF:
Ken Stabler
J. McMahon
D. Williams
Hostetler
Dildo Dilfer
M. Rypien
B. Johnson

INACTIVE (not yet eligible)
Warner
Favre
P. Manning
E. Manning

"I sent my Son to College, and all I got was a Quarter Back". (unknown)

 

[yankeesince59]

Never said he was which is why I specifically said when you compare Peyton's playoffs performances with the other all time greats.

...20 years from now when the subject of the greatest QBs ever is being discussed, Eli's named will not be mentioned, Peyton's will.

 

[Messiah717]

...20 years from now when the subject of the greatest QBs ever is being discussed, Eli's named will not be mentioned, Peyton's will.

I'm not sure why you're stuck on Eli Manning when Peyton's playoffs are being discussed. Eli has won two Super Bowls as a QB in New York. People need to deal with it, stop trying to diminish it and move on. When it comes to Peyton he's simply not comparable to guys like Montana and Brady when he's 1-2 in Super Bowls and has eight one and done performances in the playoffs.

 

[totus44]

Then again, Jim Kelly, 0-4, got in the hall. Forgot about Plunkett...I stand corrected, you can win 2 and not get in. Although there is a bias against Raider QBs.