No-calls of Dame being fouled must stop!

[swish3]

The no-calls of fouls of Dame need to stop immediately! There is no explanation except biased officiating that results in Dame being knocked down or clearly hit during shots with no foul called and no free throws. Dame should be averaging at least 5 FT and should have 5+ in this game against the Nets.

NBA officials need to be held accountable for keeping a high standard of calling consistent and accurate games which avoid unevenness in personnel. If Harden had been in the game, there would have been an even more pointed show of inconsistent fouls called against the Blazers and Nets. This distortion of NBA basketball needs to end for the Blazers to have a chance to win 2nd and 3rd round playoff games.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Someone needs to take one for Dame and the team and body check the person who lays the next hard foul on Dame. It will get them a suspension but the resulting attention will force the league to stop allowing that shit.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Wheres our enforcer???????

Hockey teams have a player whos only purpose is to protect their stars and take their spot in scuffles.

we should pick one up in the offseason!

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Wheres our enforcer???????

Blevins!!!

 

[Orion Bailey]

Blevins!!!

 

[julius]

The no-calls of fouls of Dame need to stop immediately! There is no explanation except biased officiating that results in Dame being knocked down or clearly hit during shots with no foul called and no free throws. Dame should be averaging at least 5 FT and should have 5+ in this game against the Nets.

Um, he shoots 7 ft's a game....

 

[Titan]

Someone needs to take one for Dame and the team and body check the person who lays the next hard foul on Dame. It will get them a suspension but the resulting attention will force the league to stop allowing that shit.

I nominate TJ Leaf. He is a Leaf in the wind, watch him soar to the occasion.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Someone needs to take one for Dame and the team and body check the person who lays the next hard foul on Dame. It will get them a suspension but the resulting attention will force the league to stop allowing that shit.

Well obviously Zach should run onto the court and do this. He's no good to us for any other reason.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Um, he shoots 7 ft's a game....

HOW DARE YOU UNDERCUT OUR VICTIM COMPLEX WITH FACTS

 

[julius]

HOW DARE YOU UNDERCUT OUR VICTIM COMPLEX WITH FACTS

I will do my best to abstain from it.

 

[Strenuus]

So this reveals two things:

1) this is the new swish3 gimmick

2) Dame is being traded to the heat.

Nuuuuuu.

 

[Chris Craig]

Every game there are so many no calls on Dame. Ja Morant got more respect from the refs than he did. Teams are being allowed to assault Dame and I agree it needs to stop. There indeed needs to be and has long needed to be accountability for NBA referees. I don't see it happening though.

 

[bobf]

I tried look into this. I don't see any bias or trending against Dame. This is FTA as a percentage of usage where I defined usage as any game event (shot, assist, steal, blocked shot, rebound etc. except shots count 2x and shots at the rim count 4x). The exact definition of usage isn't that important since each player uses the same definition. I deliberately excluded the aberration that is James Harden... we all know where he'd be. This is a moving average from 2016-present.

 

[Chris Craig]

I tried look into this. I don't see any bias or trending against Dame. This is FTA as a percentage of usage where I defined usage as any game event (shot, assist, steal, blocked shot, rebound etc. except shots count 2x and shots at the rim count 4x). The exact definition of usage isn't that important since each player uses the same definition. I deliberately excluded the aberration that is James Harden... we all know where he'd be. This is a moving average from 2016-present.

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In the 2nd game vs Memphis Morant was given 12 FT's...Dame shot only 3

 

[bobf]

In the 2nd game vs Memphis Morant was given 12 FT's...Dame shot only 3

That's one game. Dame has gotten as few as 1 FTA and as many as 18 FTA in games this season. Ja has gotten as few as 0 and as many as 15. There could be bias in certain games by certain refs. I can't tell. But overall I don't see a trend. Ja get's nearly as many calls a Dame overall.

 

[calvin natt]

Damian is not screwed by refs. He’s ref’d the same as anyone else. He needs to stop flailing around and crying.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

Someone needs to take one for Dame and the team and body check the person who lays the next hard foul on Dame. It will get them a suspension but the resulting attention will force the league to stop allowing that shit.

He’s even on the roster and is a blood relative. Earn your pay!

 

[BigGameDamian]

Wheres our enforcer???????

Hockey teams have a player whos only purpose is to protect their stars and take their spot in scuffles.

we should pick one up in the offseason!

I thought Big Nurkic was the enforcer?

 

[swish3]

I tried look into this. I don't see any bias or trending against Dame. This is FTA as a percentage of usage where I defined usage as any game event (shot, assist, steal, blocked shot, rebound etc. except shots count 2x and shots at the rim count 4x). The exact definition of usage isn't that important since each player uses the same definition. I deliberately excluded the aberration that is James Harden... we all know where he'd be. This is a moving average from 2016-present.

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The point is that Dame should be shooting at least 5 FT per game, and against the Nets he shot exactly 0!

Dame is being hit hard, and sometimes knocked to the floor, with no foul called. This is highly unacceptable, and must be remedied before the playoffs for the Blazers to have a chance to win.

Dame is a top player in the NBA and deserves the level of respect given Steph, Luka, Harden, Ja, Beal, and others with high FTA numbers. You must admit that in the results you display the FTA for Dame are down significantly and unexplained.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I thought Big Nurkic was the enforcer?

we need his play on the court. Not giving hits and getting ejected.

 

[bobf]

The point is that Dame should be shooting at least 5 FT per game, and against the Nets he shot exactly 0!

Dame is being hit hard, and sometimes knocked to the floor, with no foul called. This is highly unacceptable, and must be remedied before the playoffs for the Blazers to have a chance to win.

Dame is a top player in the NBA and deserves the level of respect given Steph, Luka, Harden, Ja, Beal, and others with high FTA numbers. You must admit that in the results you display the FTA for Dame are down significantly and unexplained.

You can't expect Dame to get 5 every game. Nobody gets their average every game. It's all over the place.
Ja - as few as 0 and as many as 15 FTA this year.
Harden - as few as 0 and as many as 16 FTA this year.
Luka - as few as 2 and as many as 15 FTA this year.

The results are only down if I cherry pick the highest point of the graph as the norm. Dames average in 2020 is 0.194 FTA per usage and in years prior it's 0.195. No change.

There is one big downturn in Dame's graph but that is explainable and I expected it. In 2018-2019 the NBA stopped giving 3 FTA on 3-pointers with bang bang foul/continuation. Before that change, Dame and Harden were having a field day drawing 3 free throws. Here are Dames averages by year:
2016 0.198
2017 0.219 <-- at this point Dame had mastered getting fouled on 3-pointers coming off screens.
2018 0.170 <-- this is the year the NBA stopped calling fouls on 3-pointers unless 100% obvious.
2019 0.202 <-- Dame somehow get's his average back despite the change in continuation calls
2020 0.192

I'm not saying Dame shouldn't get more calls. But I was looking for was two things
1. Is there some kind of recent conspiracy against Dame with a big downturn in his FTA rates? No, there isn't.
2. Does Dame get fewer calls than other PG with similar games? No he gets significantly more than his clearest counterpart - Steph Curry.

Whether he should get even more MORE than Curry, could be. But I suspect each teams fans would say the same about their player and would be able to point to all the times their guy gets hit with no call.

 

[julius]

The point is that Dame should be shooting at least 5 FT per game, and against the Nets he shot exactly 0!

Dame is being hit hard, and sometimes knocked to the floor, with no foul called. This is highly unacceptable, and must be remedied before the playoffs for the Blazers to have a chance to win.

Dame is a top player in the NBA and deserves the level of respect given Steph, Luka, Harden, Ja, Beal, and others with high FTA numbers. You must admit that in the results you display the FTA for Dame are down significantly and unexplained.

Per 36 FT's per game for those players you mentioned:

Steph 6.5
Luka 7.5
(Not going to count Harden as he's not normal)
Morant 6.7
Beal 7.7

Based on the tone of your posts, one would assume Dame must be around 2 or 3 (since you claim he should average "at least 5" ft's a game).

Dame 7.3

 

[bobf]

Dame is a top player in the NBA and deserves the level of respect given Steph, Luka, Harden, Ja, Beal, and others with high FTA numbers...

Here is Dame vs the combined numbers for Harden, Luka, Beal. Notice their FTA rate is down and Dame has equaled or passed them. BTW even Luka gets fewer FTA as % of usage than Dame - he just has higher usage. And Dame's FTA rate is much higher than Steph Curry.

2016-Present

 

[swish3]

OK. These are real statistics well stated. However, when Travis and Mike are making multiple comments about Dame being hit hard and not being awarded FTA, and the plays show Dame knocked to the floor with no call, officiating professionalism is highly in question.

In the Nets game there were no-calls of fouls of Dame that add up to at least 5 FTA. Even in the Celtics, game, we again saw Dame take a charge by Tatum that should have been called as a foul, but was again a no-call.

I don't think there is a conspiracy against Dame, but I hope for consistency and accuracy from the officials that makes for honest games.

 

[bobf]

OK. These are real statistics well stated. However, when Travis and Mike are making multiple comments about Dame being hit hard and not being awarded FTA, and the plays show Dame knocked to the floor with no call, officiating professionalism is highly in question.

In the Nets game there were no-calls of fouls of Dame that add up to at least 5 FTA. Even in the Celtics, game, we again saw Dame take a charge by Tatum that should have been called as a foul, but was again a no-call.

I don't think there is a conspiracy against Dame, but I hope for consistency and accuracy from the officials that makes for honest games.

I thought the offensive foul call on Dame last night was BS and he should have been at the line shooting free throws. I see bad or missed calls a lot with Dame.

But at the same time, Luka got ejected last night over an offensive foul call. So did Carlisle. I just think this kind of thing happens to every player who attacks the paint and I think NBA officiating leaves a lot to be desired... putting it nicely.

 

[wizenheimer]

Here is Dame vs the combined numbers for Harden, Luka, Beal. Notice their FTA rate is down and Dame has equaled or passed them. BTW even Luka gets fewer FTA as % of usage than Dame - he just has higher usage. And Dame's FTA rate is much higher than Steph Curry.

2016-Present
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I'm curious, first, what do you mean by FTA % Usage?

secondly, what do you use as a data source and do you have some kind of chart-making app?

 

[bobf]

I'm curious, first, what do you mean by FTA % Usage?

secondly, what do you use as a data source and do you have some kind of chart-making app?

FTA % Usage is free throw attempts divided by usage.

Usage I arbitrary made up to roughly try to correlate with what I thought would drive getting free throws. All normal basketball events such as rebound, steal, assist, blocked shot get one usage count. Shots get two. Shots at the rim get 4. It’s arbitrary but all players use the same formula and any usage stat will be arbitrary. I could have just done free throws divided by shots but activity besides shots can generate fouls and free throws. Also clearly shots at the rim are more likely to generate free throws than shots. So I count all activity but count shots 2x and shots at the rim 4x.

My data source is the NBA stats API where I wrote an application that lets me query event by event.

My graphing is just Excel.

 

[swish3]

The technical foul on Dame in the LA Lakers game was a point of emphasis for a no-call foul, wasn't it?

The May 7 LA Laker win was a poorly called game with many examples of non-professionalism by the refs. Travis and Michael did not explain what the technical was charged for. Does anyone know?

Will this situation perhaps call the poor officiating to the attention of NBA quality monitors?

 

[Strenuus]

The technical foul on Dame in the LA Lakers game was a point of emphasis for a no-call foul, wasn't it?

The May 7 LA Laker win was a poorly called game with many examples of non-professionalism by the refs. Travis and Michael did not explain what the technical was charged for. Does anyone know?

Will this situation perhaps call the poor officiating to the attention of NBA quality monitors?

No.

 

[swish3]

Denver Game 3 Playoff loss resulted from poor inconsistent, inaccurate calls by the Refs as I feared may happen. Radio announcers and Dame commented that touch fouls, and the phantom Nurk foul 5 of Jokic were severely inconsistent with the hard hit, shot changing fouls of Dame and the Blazers, and that kept Denver in the game and prevented a Blazer 4th Q comeback run.

The Blazers can and should demand much better officiating on our home court!