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Not sure you would need a source to say that the Bulls would gladly take the pick unprotected, but nice regardless lol.
 
hoopsjock said:
Not saying KD is realistic but I have heard this for what it's worth.

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Wait, so this is a Portland based designer that made the Dame/KD edit but he didn't post it anywhere? And yet it somehow got to Dame/Nurk?

HMMMMM
 
B-Roy said:


Wait, so this is a Portland based designer that made the Dame/KD edit but he didn't post it anywhere? And yet it somehow got to Dame/Nurk?

HMMMMM
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He posted it on his Twitter and IG.

He's our graphics design guy for Blazers Uprise. The KC logo on the jersey is his watermark.

Edit: this was awhile ago that he made this picture.
 
B-Roy said:
Not sure you would need a source to say that the Bulls would gladly take the pick unprotected, but nice regardless lol.
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Yeah, that's why I said it was obvious in the Tweet. I do know they have a lighter protection agreement too that frees up a few future picks, but with KD we'd need all our picks freed up of course.
 
riverman said:
We guaranteed Hart's contract for 12 mil and change with a player/team option for the next year...he's a keeper, said Joe
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That could just mean that he is worth the money this year as a player and a trade piece, as opposed to Hughes and Elleby who are not keepers. If Sharpe develops quickly, he and Simons will make Hart redundant, and the Blazers likely won't have the money to re-sign him anyway, since they also will have to re-sign Grant and Little (and Winslow if they like him).
 
John Law said:
That could just mean that he is worth the money this year as a player and a trade piece, as opposed to Hughes and Elleby who are not keepers. If Sharpe develops quickly, he and Simons will make Hart redundant, and the Blazers likely won't have the money to re-sign him anyway, since they also will have to re-sign Grant and Little (and Winslow if they like him).
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defense....neither Ant nor probably Sharpe are in Hart's class on that side of the ball. I don't see Sharpe replacing Hart as a point of attack defender....best we've had since a young Wes Mathews...the rookie isn't bringing that this season..if trades come down I think Ant gets a new franchise, not Hart. If Sharpe is that good, Ant is the guy he replaces and Hart is affordable and a two way player now.
 
riverman said:
defense....neither Ant nor probably Sharpe are in Hart's class on that side of the ball. I don't see Sharpe replacing Hart as a point of attack defender....best we've had since a young Wes Mathews...the rookie isn't bringing that this season..if trades come down I think Ant gets a new franchise, not Hart. If Sharpe is that good, Ant is the guy he replaces and Hart is affordable and a two way player now.
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I don't disagree with any of this, other than following the $$$. We can see that the team is already up against the luxury tax, and after this year, some tough decisions will have to be made. I just don't think they will be signing Ant just to trade him after a year. The Blazers have spent the last several years with most of their money invested in guards, and it hasn't worked out very well. Lillard on his crazy-high contract, along with Ant now at full dollars and Sharpe coming up...I just don't see room for Hart to get paid as well.

Anyway, this season is for making those decisions. We'll see how Sharpe shapes up, and Ant as well. I'm particularly interested in how much Simons can get in an offer sheet, if the front office lets it go that far. That will determine a lot.
 
The starting point would absolutely be Ant (as he would have to agree to want to go to Brooklyn or a 3rd team that would flip assets to Brooklyn and Sharpe. I'd be willing to flip Nas to them too if they want.

I would prefer to keep Hart if at all possible. He fits with a team competing with two stars like KD and Dame.
 
I'm not on the KD to Portland train. We can see what one bloated $45-50 million contract is doing to the team depth. I can't imagine what two would do. The Blazers are approaching compelling again for the first time in years because they jettisoned a bloated contract and replaced it with smaller contracts for hungrier players that are more concerned with growing as basketball players than planting vineyards. I'd like to see that trend continue.
 
John Law said:
I'm not on the KD to Portland train. We can see what one bloated $45-50 million contract is doing to the team depth. I can't imagine what two would do. The Blazers are approaching compelling again for the first time in years because they jettisoned a bloated contract and replaced it with smaller contracts for hungrier players that are more concerned with growing as basketball players than planting vineyards. I'd like to see that trend continue.
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Dame and KD would arguably be the best duo in the NBA, add in Grant and it would be one of the top 3 trios in the league.

Anytime you have an opportunity to grab arguably the best player in the entire league you do it. Especially when you are Portland. Especially when you already have an all world player getting older.

If you aren't pushing all your chips for a Kevin Durant (as long as he has any interest in teaming up with Dame) you might as well trade Dame.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Dame and KD would arguably be the best duo in the NBA, add in Grant and it would be one of the top 3 trios in the league.

Anytime you have an opportunity to grab arguably the best player in the entire league you do it. Especially when you are Portland. Especially when you already have an all world player getting older.

If you aren't pushing all your chips for a Kevin Durant (as long as he has any interest in teaming up with Dame) you might as well trade Dame.
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Durant doesn't make me lose Dame.....if you want Durant I honestly believe they'll ask for nothing less than Dame...given the choice...I stick with our guy
 
SlyPokerCat said:
If you aren't pushing all your chips for a Kevin Durant (as long as he has any interest in teaming up with Dame) you might as well trade Dame.
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Ha, well I agree with this part, anyway. I thought they should have traded Dame last summer when his value was significantly higher.
 
riverman said:
Durant doesn't make me lose Dame.....if you want Durant I honestly believe they'll ask for nothing less than Dame...given the choice...I stick with our guy
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You don't think Dame would be incredibly pissed if Durant said he wanted to come to Portland and we said No thanks?

I don't think Brooklyn would realistically want Dame. There would be no point for us to trade for KD if we had to give up Dame.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
You don't think Dame would be incredibly pissed if Durant said he wanted to come to Portland and we said No thanks?

I don't think Brooklyn would realistically want Dame. There would be no point for us to trade for KD if we had to give up Dame.
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We've already seen what KD did with Kyrie - not much. I'm less worried about if Dame would get mad and more concerned with my team being good from top to bottom. Trading for Durant would not help the team win. Drafting well and acquiring players who punch their salary cap weight does.
 
John Law said:
We've already seen what KD did with Kyrie - not much. I'm less worried about if Dame would get mad and more concerned with my team being good from top to bottom. Trading for Durant would not help the team win. Drafting well and acquiring players who punch their salary cap weight does.
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Dame is better than Kyrie. Kyrie is a weird dude.

Kyrie was hurt last year and barely played this year because he wouldn't get vaccinated. I don't think it is a good representation of what he would do with Dame.
 
John Law said:
We've already seen what KD did with Kyrie - not much. I'm less worried about if Dame would get mad and more concerned with my team being good from top to bottom. Trading for Durant would not help the team win. Drafting well and acquiring players who punch their salary cap weight does.
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They were in Brooklyn 3 seasons together.

Year 1 - KD was out the entire year with a torn Achilles.

Year 2 - Both Kyrie and Harden (who they traded a lot of their depth for) got hurt and KD was 1/2 inch away from basically beating the Bucks single-handedly.

Year 3 - Was a mess from the beginning with Kyrie not playing. By the time he played again, he and KD really hadn't developed a good rhythm.

The Nets all-in moves definitely blew up badly but I don't think it was because KD isn't good enough to help a team like Portland win.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Dame is better than Kyrie. Kyrie is a weird dude.

Kyrie was hurt last year and barely played this year because he wouldn't get vaccinated. I don't think it is a good representation of what he would do with Dame.
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Kyrie was healthy for the playoffs. He played with Durant for two years into the playoffs, so we have a pretty good sample. I don't share your opinion that Dame is clearly better -they have put up pretty similar numbers over the years, and Kyrie is two years younger in a comparison of two guys both on the wrong side of 30. Durant himself will be 34 when the season starts.

The more significant comp to me is the payroll of each team. The Nets could afford to surround Durant and irving with more talent, and they still weren't able to get past the 2nd round either year they played together. The adjustments that Portland would have to make to bring in Durant would pretty much guarantee there would be little money left to fill out a team, as we have already seen for a number of years with Dame and C.J.
 
hoopsjock said:
They were in Brooklyn 3 seasons together.

Year 1 - KD was out the entire year with a torn Achilles.

Year 2 - Both Kyrie and Harden (who they traded a lot of their depth for) got hurt and KD was 1/2 inch away from basically beating the Bucks single-handedly.

Year 3 - Was a mess from the beginning with Kyrie not playing. By the time he played again, he and KD really hadn't developed a good rhythm.

The Nets all-in moves definitely blew up badly but I don't think it was because KD isn't good enough to help a team like Portland win.
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Okay, fair enough, but how much time would Durant and Lillard have to get into a rhythm? And meanwhile, what would trading away assets to acquire Durant do to the future of the team?

Lillard and Durant would not win without a significant surrounding cast, which the team would not be able to afford with $90 million going to two guys. THe more likely scenario is that one or both of them would get injured and the Blazers would be catapulted right back into the lottery. No thanks; I like the trajectory the Blazers are on now. Grow through the draft and by signing younger players who can grow on the team.
 
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