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Did we resolve whether we can package the TE after 90 days or never package it?
 
xflavioVC15x said:
I told you guys Rod Thorn cannot be robbed. KP tried to rob Thorn and he failed
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Rod Thorn robbed himself. He built a team that now stands at 21-34 and still has a declining VC on the roster at $18m per year. You really will not see how much he robbed himself until the summer of "Shit, I really thought we could have got Bron".
 
Well, tbh, I think we already have our starting 5 for next year on the roster in Bayless, Roy, Batum, Aldridge and Oden. If we would have got Wallace I would have subbed him for Batum, but since we don't i'm ok. We will be fine.
 
xflavioVC15x said:
It was on like 4 different sources on Netsdaily.com but now that he's not getting traded they took them all out so i can't find them and why would i lie about something like that?Ask anyone from that website that read it and they'll tell you
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How do you know that they know that was real? How do you know that some towel boy didn't make it up and feed it to them?

NEWSFLASH: GMs don't let the media know what they're actually discussing.
 
RoyToy said:
Well if the rumor is true, I'd ask for a pick too considering how much money Carter is making. $20M is a lot and would have been a big favor for the Nets.

edit - 16M per year
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The Nets are struggling to make the playoffs, they are losing money, and they still have to pay Vince Carter to play on a team that is out of the playoffs right now.

But Thorn didn't get robbed! :biglaugh:
 
Also, if we make a move this summer with our 'cap space', do we have until the season begins or June 30?
 
Webster's Dictionary said:
How do you know that they know that was real? How do you know that some towel boy didn't make it up and feed it to them?

NEWSFLASH: GMs don't let the media know what they're actually discussing.
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Rod Thorn is doing a fucking interview in TV right now and he's saying that they were close to doing the deal put the pick screwed it up. KP thought the Nets were dumping Carter for anything so he was asking for more picks which won't happen
 
AmirIcon said:
How so? We have cap space to sign presumably a pretty good player. We wouldn't have to give up shit.
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Not really. With Miles back on the cap, and the very strong possibility that the cap will go *down*, the only way we get that kind of space is to give up Outlaw and Blake. How is that any different than making a trade now? We still have to give up useful assets to add somebody.
 
I didn't even want Carter tbh.

I liked the prospect of adding a Jefferson/Wallace/Butler/etc, but I was never really in love with it.

Wallace maybe, but I can live w/o him being a Blazer.
 
xflavioVC15x said:
Rod Thorn is doing a fucking interview in TV right now and he's saying that they were close to doing the deal put the pick screwed it up. KP thought the Nets were dumping Carter for anything so he was asking for more picks which won't happen
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frye for carter just wasnt enough.....................................................................
 
xflavioVC15x said:
Rod Thorn is doing a fucking interview in TV right now and he's saying that they were close to doing the deal put the pick screwed it up. KP thought the Nets were dumping Carter for anything so he was asking for more picks which won't happen
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Interesting stuff, KP wanted to trade Frye for Carter and probably a lotto pick.
 
xflavioVC15x said:
Rod Thorn is doing a fucking interview in TV right now and he's saying that they were close to doing the deal put the pick screwed it up. KP thought the Nets were dumping Carter for anything so he was asking for more picks which won't happen
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Haha. Just funny how he is literally saying what happened.

Assuming he's not a liar, I don't think that the Golden State 2011 pick was worthy of making or breaking the deal, personally...

Ed O.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
If it upgrades us in talent and logically fits (I'm looking at you Gerald Wallace or Caron Butler) or doesn't cost us much at all (John Salmons) then yes I would advocate a trade-
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Ok, so what if Charlotte and Washington weren't just looking for savings but wanted some talent too. Lamarcus Aldridge and RLEC for either of them?

What if Sacramento really likes Nocioni? What if they rejected a Frye and RLEC for Salmons and Miller trade?

What if Charlotte was wavering on giving us Wallace for just what KP wanted so he decided not to do the Sacramento deal and then the Bulls did and Charlotte finally said no?

We just don't know. Why do we act like we do?

I'm disappointed, but I don't think that KP just sat there and said, "My players are too good and I'm not trading any of them."
 
Ed O said:
Haha. Just funny how he is literally saying what happened.

Assuming he's not a liar, I don't think that the Golden State 2011 pick was worthy of making or breaking the deal, personally...

Ed O.
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The Nets are in rebuilding mode so picks and young guys are pretty much untouchable for us
 
Originally Posted by xflavioVC15x
Rod Thorn is doing a fucking interview in TV right now and he's saying that they were close to doing the deal put the pick screwed it up. KP thought the Nets were dumping Carter for anything so he was asking for more picks which won't happen
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Too bad that Thorn has to go on TV and basically whine about not having leverage. Bad form IMO. Looks like Thorn the bully got his bluff called.

Now he can sit and wait for another 1.5 seasons so LeBron can not sign with them.
 
Seems to me KP wants to have his cake and eat it too. Sure appears like he was getting lopsided offers but decided to ask other GM's for 'bend over and call me daddy' deals. I can't believe he didn't move Raef's contract with all the teams looking to cut salary... stunned.
 
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PapaG said:
Too bad that Thorn has to go on TV and basically whine about not having leverage. Bad form IMO. Looks like Thorn the bully got his bluff called.

Now he can sit and wait for another 1.5 seasons so LeBron can not sign with them.
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I think it got through everyones mind that no matter how much cap space we have were not getting LeBron.
 
Paul Allen may not want to spend a bunch of money either, just like every other owner in the NBA. Carter is a lot of money, and if the Blazers were to take his contract on, the Blazers probably wanted something extra to make it worth it.

Doesn't seem that out of line to me.
 
Ed O said:
Haha. Just funny how he is literally saying what happened.

Assuming he's not a liar, I don't think that the Golden State 2011 pick was worthy of making or breaking the deal, personally...

Ed O.
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I don't know. Portland would be taking on a big, fat contract while New Jersey clears up a lot of cap space between RLEC/Frye. Plus New Jersey pays penny on the dollar for RLEC the rest of the season.

I have no problem with saving some cash and waiting to see what is out there this summer. Plus, New Jersey has much less flexibility to offer other FAs or other teams in a trade. Thorn messed up and he's on TV to try and spin the damage he just did to his franchise.
 
Webster's Dictionary said:
Ok, so what if Charlotte and Washington weren't just looking for savings but wanted some talent too. Lamarcus Aldridge and RLEC for either of them?

What if Sacramento really likes Nocioni? What if they rejected a Frye and RLEC for Salmons and Miller trade?

What if Charlotte was wavering on giving us Wallace for just what KP wanted so he decided not to do the Sacramento deal and then the Bulls did and Charlotte finally said no?

We just don't know. Why do we act like we do?

I'm disappointed, but I don't think that KP just sat there and said, "My players are too good and I'm not trading any of them."
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The rumors heard make it seem like a deal could of been made. And your right, it could have all been bullshit. , But if you don't flip your asset for anything (and have to give up assets this offseason to have more salary cap than the MLe is going to be anyways), I'm not going to commend you for a job well done. He dropped the ball on upgrading our team
 
PapaG said:
I don't know. Portland would be taking on a big, fat contract while New Jersey clears up a lot of cap space between RLEC/Frye. Plus New Jersey pays penny on the dollar for RLEC the rest of the season.

I have no problem with saving some cash and waiting to see what is out there this summer. Plus, New Jersey has much less flexibility to offer other FAs or other teams in a trade. Thorn messed up and he's on TV to try and spin the damage he just did to his franchise.
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I don't really care about New Jersey and how they make out, to be honest.

I think Carter would have been a HUGE upgrade for the team for the next few years and I'm disappointed that a Golden State 2011 first rounder would have been the thing that kept him off the Blazers team.

Ed O.
 
xflavioVC15x said:
I think it got through everyones mind that no matter how much cap space we have were not getting LeBron.
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Well, that may be true, so that makes this summer more important, and the Nets just lost over $16 million in extra cap space this summer plus another $4 million in cash that insurance would pay for LaFrentz.

Almost $25 million under that cap this summer would have been nice, eh? Now the Nets have basically the same amount as the Blazers, who are much more poised to win at this stage.
 
Ed O said:
I don't really care about New Jersey and how they make out, to be honest.

I think Carter would have been a HUGE upgrade for the team for the next few years and I'm disappointed that a Golden State 2011 first rounder would have been the thing that kept him off the Blazers team.

Ed O.
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Perhaps finances played a role in the decision. Allen already gave up control of his arena in much better financial times. I'm also not going to take Thorn at face value as he runs to TV cameras to try and explain why he didn't clear up $16 million in cap space for his franchise this summer.

Plus, you should care how NJ made out since they now have basically the same space under the cap as the Blazers do compared to 3x the space.
 
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PapaG said:
Well, that may be true, so that makes this summer more important, and the Nets just lost over $16 million in extra cap space this summer plus another $4 million in cash that insurance would pay for LaFrentz.

Almost $25 million under that cap this summer would have been nice, eh? Now the Nets have basically the same amount as the Blazers, who are much more poised to win at this stage.
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Keeping Vince carter doesn't hurt us that much. We still have the 3rd lowest payroll in the NBA so it's all good

http://www.netsdaily.com/blog/?p=605

However…at $62.67 million, the Nets’ payroll is ALREADY the third lowest in the NBA, nearly $10 million below the luxury tax threshold! We’re not talking about the Sacramento Kings, whose payroll is nearly $70 million and whose win total is 11. Nets may look like a small market team at the IZOD but its TV contract and concessions, etc., are helped by its position in the New York area.
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"ONE... TWO... THREE... TOGETHER!!"

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"Honestly guys, the trade offers we got stunk. You think I'd trade Channing for Vince? Ha. Only if they added a lottery pick."

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