No Osama photo will be released

[illmatic99]

I honestly don't think releasing the photo will accomplish anything. It will just be adding another level of nerding from the conspiracy theorists.

Agreed.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Three Republican senators who claimed to have seen images of Osama bin Laden after he was killed may have been duped.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20059844-503544.html

You know what? thats awesome. "Yea, it was clearly him"

basically you cant believe ANYONE on this subject ever again.....

 

[MARIS61]

umm a photo can be classified regardless of the info it pertains to.

try getting a picture of the plane crashing into the pentagon

Not legally, it can't.

There are very specific requirements needed.

 

[MARIS61]

True, and I agree. But I'd have to lock my kids in a closet .../QUOTE]

Like you don't already.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Not legally, it can't.

There are very specific requirements needed.

please enlighten me as to when a photo can not be classified, besides "they wouldnt want to"

 

[Natebishop3]

Well, there is the proof that Osama hasn't released another tape since the assassination saying, "WTF? Yo, I'm still here biatches!"

You must concede, at the very least, that he's been permanently incapacitated, and that the President is absolutely certain of that. Enough so that he'd stake his chances on being re-elected on that knowledge.

If it turned out Osama were still alive and hanging out in Afghanistan somewhere, Obama would be a one-term president.

But what if he's been dead for years and Obama is merely capitalizing on this for re-election purposes?

 

[barfo]

But what if he's been dead for years and Obama is merely capitalizing on this for re-election purposes?

And why would Bush & Cheney let him get away with that? Oh, I know, I know! They are all in the conspiracy together to reelect Obama!

barfo

 

[MARIS61]

Come on barfo, there's no proof that it even happened. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. No pictures, no video, no witnesses, no body. Just the word of a politician. They only killed the biggest criminal since hitler and they offer no proof of it actually happening?

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Pics or it didn't happen.

No proof or body or even corresponding evidence was ever found to confirm Hitler's suicide either. Russia was caught trying to pawn off a female skull as Hitler's. It's pretty clear he was given safe harbor after his fall, and the suicide story was a concoction for political purposes.

In this case we have nothing but words from Obama saying it happened. Despite his claims of DNA near-proof (99.5%), all it really proves is that the dead guy is one of Obama's father's 23 sons. And that is if we accept his word that there actually is DNA evidence.

We've already been lied to multiple times for no apparent reason, and nothing has been provided to support what they claim really happened.

If the pics are not released eventually (if they even exist), Obama will be handcuffed by critics and disbelievers and will have no chance at another term.

 

[Ed O]

Maybe it's just my innate doubt of conspiracies, but I don't know how Obama could go this far in terms of a conspiracy and then not find a badass Photoshop person to whip up a picture of a dead Bin Laden.

I am torn about whether I think the photo should be released. I don't need to see it, personally, to believe it. I don't care if the rest of the world thinks he's dead or not. I don't want to irk anyone in the world unnecessarily.

BUT... I sort of agree with Palin about how we should stop pussyfooting around irrationality. If Muslims--or anyone else--are going to be upset with the US because of us releasing a picture of a dead Osama Bin Laden, then they're already mad at us and/or just waiting to be insulted. Maybe better to just be ourselves and have both sides deal with the consequences.

In the end, I trust the President to make the best decision for our country.

Ed O.

 

[MARIS61]

And why would Bush & Cheney let him get away with that? Oh, I know, I know! They are all in the conspiracy together to reelect Obama!

barfo

All part of the same cast in the same never ending puppet show.

They all work for the same people, and I don't mean "We the people".

You need to get out and watch a marionette sometime, so you can follow the program.

 

[PapaG]

In the end, I trust the President to make the best decision for our country.

Ed O.

I don't think that you really believe this, given your legal background, and I think that you're waffling just to not make yourself a partisan target as an admin.

JMO, though.

Anyhow, that's probably your best move.

 

[Natebishop3]

There's no proof that jumping off a building will hurt you in any way. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. There's no pictures, video, witnesses, no body. Anyone who claims otherwise has been duped by the conspiracy and their faked pictures and videos.

barfo

http://www.watoday.com.au/world/model-dies-in-building-fall-20080629-2yql.html

Oh shit! That's more evidence of someone dying from a fall from a building than has been provided to you in the death of Osama.

 

[Ed O]

All part of the same cast in the same never ending puppet show.

They all work for the same people, and I don't mean "We the people".

You need to get out and watch a marionette sometime, so you can follow the program.

How do you get out of bed in the morning if you really believe that there's such a massive conspiracy with such monolithic control on our lives?

And why are you worried about Bin Laden, since those people would seem more likely to have been responsible for 9/11 than some foreign group?

Ed O.

 

[Natebishop3]

And why would Bush & Cheney let him get away with that? Oh, I know, I know! They are all in the conspiracy together to reelect Obama!

barfo

Would you want to be Bush or Cheney and come out to the American public and say that Osama was dead 7 or 8 years ago, but you didn't want to tell anyone because you wanted to keep fighting your war? Can you imagine what the backlash would have been?

 

[MARIS61]

please enlighten me as to when a photo can not be classified, besides "they wouldnt want to"

When censorship of the photo is not necessary to protect national security.

In this case that defense would be hard-pressed to carry weight in a court of law should media ask for them through the Freedom of Information Act, which is why they will eventually be released or be found to not exist.

 

[PapaG]

One wonders why conspiracy theorists don't try jumping off tall buildings. After all, just because people say it would be bad doesn't mean it really is. Maybe it is some fantastic feeling that they don't want you to know about.
barfo

Yeah, I've never seen photos of people jumping off of tall buildings. What an idiotic post.

I'm sure this guy had the time of his life!

This must have been a hoot!

Only a TONE-DEAF MORON would post what you posted, and I know you're not a TONE-DEAF MORON. So, barfo, what is your excuse for posting something that TONE-DEAF MORON would post?

 

[barfo]

http://www.watoday.com.au/world/model-dies-in-building-fall-20080629-2yql.html

Oh shit! That's more evidence of someone dying from a fall from a building than has been provided to you in the death of Osama.

There are several fake photos of dead Osama, that one is just one more bad photoshop effort. Same exact situation.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Yeah, I've never seen photos of people jumping off of tall buildings. What an idiotic post.

Why are you so gullible? Obviously those photos are faked. Baa Baa, Sheeple.

Only a TONE-DEAF MORON would post what you posted, and I know you're not a TONE-DEAF MORON. So, barfo, what is your excuse for posting something that TONE-DEAF MORON would post?

Good, you are USING CAPS. That is an important step in the development of any good CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

For your NEXT lesson, you NEED to RANDOMIZE the choice of WHICH words are in caps.

barfo

 

[Natebishop3]

There are several fake photos of dead Osama, that one is just one more bad photoshop effort. Same exact situation.

barfo

Boy that response wasn't predictable...

BTW, I liked my analogy of banging Rachel McAdams and Natalie Portman better.

 

[barfo]

Boy that response wasn't predictable...

That's the point. These "you can't believe anything" posts are completely predictable. No matter what evidence is presented, it is dismissed as fake.

BTW, I liked my analogy of banging Rachel McAdams and Natalie Portman better.

I'll accept photoshopped pics of that.

barfo

 

[MARIS61]

How do you get out of bed in the morning if you really believe that there's such a massive conspiracy with such monolithic control on our lives?

And why are you worried about Bin Laden, since those people would seem more likely to have been responsible for 9/11 than some foreign group?

Ed O.

It's not like it hasn't always been that way, ever since civilization began. No sense letting it ruin my day.

Just because there are heinous people in positions of power inflicting pain and suffering on the masses doesn't mean I can't have a magically satisfying existence here in Beautiful Central Oregon. Were I trapped in a Turkish prison, or suffering from Alzheimers or something I might have call to be sad, but I have a wonderful life, wonderful family and friends, a rewarding career, and the best place on Earth to live.

As for bin Laden, I've never been "worried" about him. He was always a joke. So is his merry band of impotent cowards. The whole fearing terrorists thing bemuses me in it's idiocy. In the last decade bees and fire ants and hippos killed more innocent humans than all the terrorists in the world.

Al Quaida is no more of a threat to me than the ticket taker at OMSI.

 

[julius]

We all want 0% taxes too. And free blowjobs every morning from Supermodels.

I vote for this.

 

[Natebishop3]

That's the point. These "you can't believe anything" posts are completely predictable. No matter what evidence is presented, it is dismissed as fake.



I'll accept photoshopped pics of that.

barfo

No, but there's a flaw with that argument. There hasn't been any evidence to dismiss. If they release photos, and people scream they are faked, I can see your point, but they haven't. In fact, the only photo that has been released WAS faked/staged. So now we're not releasing evidence because someone might claim it's a fake? Shit, our justice system just got a whole hell of a lot easier to convict people.

"Your honor, we have photos and DNA evidence that Mr. barfo was at the scene of the crime, and in fact killed the victim. We are not, however, going to present these photos or evidence to the jury because someone might claim that they were faked. You know how good photoshop is these days... we also do not want to upset anyone because the photos are rather graphic in nature."

 

[barfo]

No, but there's a flaw with that argument. There hasn't been any evidence to dismiss. If they release photos, and people scream they are faked, I can see your point, but they haven't.

I can see the future, and I can see that they would be dismissed as fake. So what does it matter if it has happened yet or not? The result is the same either way.

See, e.g, Obama's birth certificate, 9/11, moon landing, jfk, etc etc. I think enough evidence has "been released" about conspiracy theorists to draw some conclusions.

barfo

 

[Natebishop3]

I can see the future, and I can see that they would be dismissed as fake. So what does it matter if it has happened yet or not? The result is the same either way.

See, e.g, Obama's birth certificate, 9/11, moon landing, jfk, etc etc. I think enough evidence has "been released" about conspiracy theorists to draw some conclusions.

barfo

It matters because this could very well get him re-elected. I don't think someone should get elected/re-elected based on a lie. I don't care who they are.

 

[barfo]

It matters because this could very well get him re-elected. I don't think someone should get elected/re-elected based on a lie. I don't care who they are.

So suppose they release photos. Then you declare them to be fakes. What would have changed, exactly, from the current situation? Obama would still be born in Kenya. Osama would still be either alive and well or dead for many years, depending on which sounds better at the moment. And you won't be able to convince very many people of that, photos or no photos.

barfo

 

[Natebishop3]

So suppose they release photos. Then you declare them to be fakes. What would have changed, exactly, from the current situation? Obama would still be born in Kenya. Osama would still be either alive and well or dead for many years, depending on which sounds better at the moment. And you won't be able to convince very many people of that, photos or no photos.

barfo

Why would I declare them to be fakes? I have no idea whether they would be fake or not. I might suspect them to be fake, but I can not make that determination one way or the other. Regardless, the absence of ANY proof is far more damning than releasing something that some people think is a fake... unless it's actually proven to be a fake, which is a whole other issue. Either way, Dems are gonna believe what they want to believe, and Pubs are gonna believe what they want to believe.

 

[barfo]

Why would I declare them to be fakes? I have no idea whether they would be fake or not. I might suspect them to be fake, but I can not make that determination one way or the other. Regardless, the absence of ANY proof is far more damning than releasing something that some people think is a fake... unless it's actually proven to be a fake, which is a whole other issue. Either way, Dems are gonna believe what they want to believe, and Pubs are gonna believe what they want to believe.

And conspiracy theorists are gonna believe what they want to believe. So like I say, what's the point?

barfo

 

[Natebishop3]

And conspiracy theorists are gonna believe what they want to believe. So like I say, what's the point?

barfo

The point is, it's the job of the government to present the data and leave the conclusions up to us. They should not withhold the evidence simply because someone might think it's fake. Nothing would ever get done if we were always worried that someone might not like what we do. I want the evidence to be presented so I can decide for myself whether it's real or fake. The job is done, it's not a matter of national security, and it's the duty of our government to present the American public with proof that this actually happened.

 

[PapaG]

Why are you so gullible? Obviously those photos are faked. Baa Baa, Sheeple.

Yeah, those are faked. Another idiotic post from barfo.

Good, you are USING CAPS. That is an important step in the development of any good CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

For your NEXT lesson, you NEED to RANDOMIZE the choice of WHICH words are in caps.

barfo

I only used ALL CAPS just so you would know that I don't think that you're a TONE-DEAF MORON for posting about FAKE PHOTOS of PEOPLE jumping off of TALL BUILDINGS in a thread related to BIN LADEN and 9/11.