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umm a photo can be classified regardless of the info it pertains to.

try getting a picture of the plane crashing into the pentagon

I've seen the video of the plane crashing into the Pentagon.
 
Rumsfeld was on Fox News yesterday. VERY interesting. Yeah, he's hawking his book, but he's also much more relaxed and willing to talk about what went on.

He deliberately said we waterboarded THREE and only three of the detainees and they did spill important intel.

He was asked about how this whole thing was handled, and he said they took the highest risk/highest reward strategy and it was the right move.

When asked about releasing the photo, he said he fully understands why it shouldn't be released, but if it were up to him, he'd lean toward releasing it.

Not a single harsh word for the current administration, and lots of praise.

Rumsfeld and Bush live by a different code, one Carter forgot. Their time in the public eye is done. They don't trash other administrations, even if they disagree with them.
 
Post a picture of your bed, at the time it happened (you don't need to be in the picture). That's proof enough for me.

I was going to post a picture of a bunch of people watching a TV to prove that it was a tense moment when I thought Natalie and Rachel were going to keep going at it and leave me out of the fun.
 
I was going to post a picture of a bunch of people watching a TV to prove that it was a tense moment when I thought Natalie and Rachel were going to keep going at it and leave me out of the fun.

Just post the "Hi PapaG picture". That's sufficient enough.

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I'm glad they arent going to make the pics public. I dont want my kids seeing that stuff.
I havent seen pictures of Dante Cunningham getting arrested, but I have no doubt it happened. :devilwink:
 
I'm glad they arent going to make the pics public. I dont want my kids seeing that stuff.

By that argument, nothing objectionable would ever be published. It's our job as parents to shield our kids as we see fit. It's not government's job to decide what we can and cannot see.
 
By that argument, nothing objectionable would ever be published. It's our job as parents to shield our kids as we see fit. It's not government's job to decide what we can and cannot see.

yeah man , no kidding, its not like the cut off civilians heads and posted that on the web , television and on the news at night..dull knife...praising god in their native language....long painfull deaths..
 
By that argument, nothing objectionable would ever be published. It's our job as parents to shield our kids as we see fit. It's not government's job to decide what we can and cannot see.

True, and I agree. But I'd have to lock my kids in a closet for them to not see these pictures if they where released. They'd be everywhere!
 
I honestly don't think releasing the photo will accomplish anything. It will just be adding another level of nerding from the conspiracy theorists.
 
I honestly don't think releasing the photo will accomplish anything. It will just be adding another level of nerding from the conspiracy theorists.

Exactly. When you don't believe anything anyone says, there's no end to the number of "reasonable questions" you can ask.

One wonders why conspiracy theorists don't try jumping off tall buildings. After all, just because people say it would be bad doesn't mean it really is. Maybe it is some fantastic feeling that they don't want you to know about.

barfo
 
Exactly. When you don't believe anything anyone says, there's no end to the number of "reasonable questions" you can ask.

One wonders why conspiracy theorists don't try jumping off tall buildings. After all, just because people say it would be bad doesn't mean it really is. Maybe it is some fantastic feeling that they don't want you to know about.

barfo

Come on barfo, there's no proof that it even happened. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. No pictures, no video, no witnesses, no body. Just the word of a politician. They only killed the biggest criminal since hitler and they offer no proof of it actually happening?

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Come on barfo, there's no proof that it even happened. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. No pictures, no video, no witnesses, no body. Just the word of a politician. They only killed the biggest criminal since hitler and they offer no proof of it actually happening?

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WHY WOULD THE COMPOUND HOLDING OSAMA BIN LADEN HAVE NO WEAPONS?
 
Come on barfo, there's no proof that it even happened. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. No pictures, no video, no witnesses, no body. Just the word of a politician.

And the Navy SEALs and other military individuals who took part in each step of the process. Conspiracies are certainly possible, but they become exponentially more difficult the more people are involved.
 
And the Navy SEALs and other military individuals who took part in each step of the process. Conspiracies are certainly possible, but they become exponentially more difficult the more people are involved.

how many people were really involved though? This seemed like a relatively closed loop and very small number of people "in the know".

Direct order to the Navy Seals special team.
 
how many people were really involved though? This seemed like a relatively closed loop and very small number of people "in the know".

Direct order to the Navy Seals special team.

I'm sure at least the Navy high command would be aware. And, of course, the SEAL team. After that, I don't know how many people were involved in processing the body, but I'm sure the SEALs themselves didn't keep it solely in their possession before tipping it into the ocean.

Is it your opinion that the SEAL team, at minimum, is playing along? What would be their motivation? It seems unlikely that they care about Obama's poll numbers.
 
I'm sure at least the Navy high command would be aware. And, of course, the SEAL team. After that, I don't know how many people were involved in processing the body, but I'm sure the SEALs themselves didn't keep it solely in their possession before tipping it into the ocean.

Is it your opinion that the SEAL team, at minimum, is playing along? What would be their motivation? It seems unlikely that they care about Obama's poll numbers.

They follow orders or people die. Do you think any one of them would betray a direct order from their commander in chief?
 
They follow orders or people die. Do you think any one of them would betray a direct order from their commander in chief?

An order to lie about a fake mission? Yes. An order to take out a long sought-after criminal? No.
 
Come on barfo, there's no proof that it even happened. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. No pictures, no video, no witnesses, no body. Just the word of a politician. They only killed the biggest criminal since hitler and they offer no proof of it actually happening?

Well, there is the proof that Osama hasn't released another tape since the assassination saying, "WTF? Yo, I'm still here biatches!"

You must concede, at the very least, that he's been permanently incapacitated, and that the President is absolutely certain of that. Enough so that he'd stake his chances on being re-elected on that knowledge.

If it turned out Osama were still alive and hanging out in Afghanistan somewhere, Obama would be a one-term president.
 
Come on barfo, there's no proof that it even happened. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. No pictures, no video, no witnesses, no body. Just the word of a politician. They only killed the biggest criminal since hitler and they offer no proof of it actually happening?

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There's no proof that jumping off a building will hurt you in any way. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. There's no pictures, video, witnesses, no body. Anyone who claims otherwise has been duped by the conspiracy and their faked pictures and videos.

barfo
 
Well, there is the proof that Osama hasn't released another tape since the assassination saying, "WTF? Yo, I'm still here biatches!"

You must concede, at the very least, that he's been permanently incapacitated, and that the President is absolutely certain of that. Enough so that he'd stake his chances on being re-elected on that knowledge.

If it turned out Osama were still alive and hanging out in Afghanistan somewhere, Obama would be a one-term president.

I don't want to see the photo for confirmation, I want to see the photo because I helped pay for the mission to kill the motherfucker and I want to see it. The government works for us; frankly it's not their right to keep something from us that's already been reported. There's little security risk in showing it other than enraging people who are just looking to be enraged. If it's not this, it will be something else.
 
I don't want to see the photo for confirmation, I want to see the photo because I helped pay for the mission to kill the motherfucker and I want to see it. The government works for us; frankly it's not their right to keep something from us that's already been reported. There's little security risk in showing it other than enraging people who are just looking to be enraged. If it's not this, it will be something else.

You should ask for a tour of the White house by Obama. After all, he works for you.
 
I don't want to see the photo for confirmation, I want to see the photo because I helped pay for the mission to kill the motherfucker and I want to see it. The government works for us; frankly it's not their right to keep something from us that's already been reported. There's little security risk in showing it other than enraging people who are just looking to be enraged. If it's not this, it will be something else.

Yeah, I wasn't really addressing you. I definitely understand your point, and I think it's completely rational.

Personally, I do think there is something to the idea of "not antagonizing crazy people." Yeah, you may be right that they would probably do crazy things anyway, but you don't really know that. Some nutjob with a heart condition might be thinking about blowing himself up at an embassy tomorrow, but doesn't because he wasn't antagonized, and he dies of a heart attack a week later.

I have crazy people in my own family. They do crazy shit, and I can usually see it coming. When they do that crazy stuff, it pisses me off, and I know I'm entirely in the right for being mad. But it's also taught me the value of not antagonizing them more than I have to.
 

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