Not out of woods yet on Roy (1 Viewer)

[Blazer4life]

No worries. Seriously though, with this place its hard to tell what is and is not a joke. Being in the medical field and knowing how all this stuff works one thing is clear to me.......we do not even know half of this story, and I am sure it goes much deeper then any of us will ever know.

...it was a joke. I totally agree with the question. I was trying to be funny. Please take the joke.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

On another note, while I am not an orthopedic surgery and have no expertise on knee injuries other then general knowledge of time frames for the healing process, I also must add that I find this whole story rather strange that an orthopedic surgeon who receives the MRI images on Wednesday afternoon has not had time to look at the images yet and to come to a conclusion as to what he thinks he sees on the films. I am a podiatrist, order a fair amount of MRI's myself for my patients and when I get the images literally it takes me like 10 minutes to see what I need to see (if that). I am certain that the films have already been looked at, it would be silly if they haven't yet. My belief is that they were looked at and the doctor recommended a new series of films to be taken in order to compare and see if there was any new structural damage. Since the Blazers did not do this ahead of time I believe that they probably got Roy another MRI and will forward the new results of this to the LA doctor so he can compare the films. The reason they dont want to say anything is because I believe they don't want to jump the gun and say Roy is fine when they never ordered new films in the 1st place. I know quick is quick and has gotten many stories wrong in the past, but if this story is true and you read between the lines the Blazers medical staff are a bunch of idiots. THat might be why Cho saught out this other doctor to not only do Williams surgery but also evaluate Greg and Roy's films.

Wow, you're a podiatrist? I saw one when I was a kid for ingrown toenails. I had just gone on a huge growth spree. He discovered that I had flat feet and that was not only the cause of the ingrown toenails but was the reason I had minor case of scoliosis and shine splints. He made me some custom orthotics and I never had a problem with any of that stuff again. It was interesting how a problem with your feet can cause problems throughout the entire body. Nice guy, told me how podiatrists treat the cause of the problem and not the symptom.

 

[Blazer4life]

Wow, you're a podiatrist? I saw one when I was a kid for ingrown toenails. I had just gone on a huge growth spree. He discovered that I had flat feet and that was not only the cause of the ingrown toenails but was the reason I had minor case of scoliosis and shine splints. He made me some custom orthotics and I never had a problem with any of that stuff again. It was interesting how a problem with your feet can cause problems throughout the entire body. Nice guy, told me how podiatrists treat the cause of the problem and not the symptom.

Yeah, I am a podiatrist in the Bay area but grew up in Oregon. Everything that you say is true. Its funny when I read stories like the one today where Oden talks in the SI article about some specialists believe that his left knee pain is likely tied to surgery he had on his right hip in 6th grade. He likely has a limb length discrepency which can be adresses conservatively with custom orthotics modified with a heel lift on his shorter side. I would hope that someone has measured him for this and has addressed this issue many moons ago but with the Blazers medical staff your never sure.

 

[BGrantFan]

On another note, while I am not an orthopedic surgery and have no expertise on knee injuries other then general knowledge of time frames for the healing process, I also must add that I find this whole story rather strange that an orthopedic surgeon who receives the MRI images on Wednesday afternoon has not had time to look at the images yet and to come to a conclusion as to what he thinks he sees on the films. I am a podiatrist, order a fair amount of MRI's myself for my patients and when I get the images literally it takes me like 10 minutes to see what I need to see (if that). I am certain that the films have already been looked at, it would be silly if they haven't yet. My belief is that they were looked at and the doctor recommended a new series of films to be taken in order to compare and see if there was any new structural damage. Since the Blazers did not do this ahead of time I believe that they probably got Roy another MRI and will forward the new results of this to the LA doctor so he can compare the films. The reason they dont want to say anything is because I believe they don't want to jump the gun and say Roy is fine when they never ordered new films in the 1st place. I know quick is quick and has gotten many stories wrong in the past, but if this story is true and you read between the lines the Blazers medical staff are a bunch of idiots. THat might be why Cho saught out this other doctor to not only do Williams surgery but also evaluate Greg and Roy's films.

I posted the same thing the day of the trip to LA. I'm not a doctor, but I work with many doctors/specialists, and I too found it hard to believe that the specialist in LA couldn't take 5 minutes to look at the imaging. Anything extraordinary would jump out right away, and any slight potential areas of concern would show up on one of the images. He took the time to do a physical consult on Oden and Williams, but he couldn't squeeze in a quick look at Roy's knee images?

 

[BGrantFan]

Yeah, I am a podiatrist in the Bay area but grew up in Oregon. Everything that you say is true. Its funny when I read stories like the one today where Oden talks in the SI article about some specialists believe that his left knee pain is likely tied to surgery he had on his right hip in 6th grade. He likely has a limb length discrepency which can be adresses conservatively with custom orthotics modified with a heel lift on his shorter side. I would hope that someone has measured him for this and has addressed this issue many moons ago but with the Blazers medical staff your never sure.

At this point, may I ask you to please send a PM to HCP so he can give it to Mike Barrett. Pretty please? I'm serious.

 

[Blazer4life]

At this point, may I ask you to please send a PM to HCP so he can give it to Mike Barrett. Pretty please? I'm serious.

Do you want me to PM HCP wht you quoted or or do you want me to PM him to see if Oden has been measured for a shorter leg and to find out if he wears orthotics? I am not sure exactly what you want me to PM him, but I would be glad to. Just let me know what you want me to ask. Also I must add as a disclaimer, that any general medical information that I provide as knowledge is ONLY an educted guess since I am not privy to any of the players charts, including any of the tests and or surgeries that have been performed. I don't want people to misinterpret what I say and base it as if I am stating it as a fact when I will never know that information. However, I am not sure if you remember when Martell had foot surgery and tried to come back early I had posted that based on the description of his injury (jones fracture) and what the typical recovery time should be, I thought he rushed back and sure enough he re-fractured it and was out the rest of the season.

 

[tlongII]

Do you want me to PM HCP wht you quoted or or do you want me to PM him to see if Oden has been measured for a shorter leg and to find out if he wears orthotics? I am not sure exactly what you want me to PM him, but I would be glad to. Just let me know what you want me to ask. Also I must add as a disclaimer, that any general medical information that I provide as knowledge is ONLY an educted guess since I am not privy to any of the players charts, including any of the tests and or surgeries that have been performed. I don't want people to misinterpret what I say and base it as if I am stating it as a fact when I will never know that information. However, I am not sure if you remember when Martell had foot surgery and tried to come back early I had posted that based on the description of his injury (jones fracture) and what the typical recovery time should be, I thought he rushed back and sure enough he re-fractured it and was out the rest of the season.

You are the first poster I've ever repped! It's good to see someone in the medical field express their opinion on the Blazer's medical staff.

 

[Elvin Jones]

Can someone explain how repping works?

I frequent Reddit, so I'm generous with upvotes, but I'm not sure that's the point here...

 

[tlongII]

Can someone explain how repping works?

I frequent Reddit, so I'm generous with upvotes, but I'm not sure that's the point here...

It's the thing that looks like a star below the poster's avatar.

 

[Elvin Jones]

But when are you supposed to give them out?

 

[HailBlazers]

pregame reports are elliots surgery sucessfull and Roy's MRI is clean

 

[Elvin Jones]

pregame reports are elliots surgery sucessfull and Roy's MRI is clean

What, the MRI taken months ago?

A lot of fucking help that is....

 

[maxiep]

Jason Quick just said on 95.5 The Game that no new MRI images have been taken on Roy's knee because Roy is claustrophobic and doesn't want to get into an MRI machine. REALLY!??? You are paying this guy $85 million! You do whatever it takes to make him get a new MRI. Who is running this organization?

That doesn't make any sense. I get annual MRIs on my right knee and I don't get them in a typical MRI. It's a machine where you sit down and they encapsulate your leg with the magnetic envelope.

 

[maxiep]

On another note, while I am not an orthopedic surgery and have no expertise on knee injuries other then general knowledge of time frames for the healing process, I also must add that I find this whole story rather strange that an orthopedic surgeon who receives the MRI images on Wednesday afternoon has not had time to look at the images yet and to come to a conclusion as to what he thinks he sees on the films. I am a podiatrist, order a fair amount of MRI's myself for my patients and when I get the images literally it takes me like 10 minutes to see what I need to see (if that). I am certain that the films have already been looked at, it would be silly if they haven't yet. My belief is that they were looked at and the doctor recommended a new series of films to be taken in order to compare and see if there was any new structural damage. Since the Blazers did not do this ahead of time I believe that they probably got Roy another MRI and will forward the new results of this to the LA doctor so he can compare the films. The reason they dont want to say anything is because I believe they don't want to jump the gun and say Roy is fine when they never ordered new films in the 1st place. I know quick is quick and has gotten many stories wrong in the past, but if this story is true and you read between the lines the Blazers medical staff are a bunch of idiots. THat might be why Cho saught out this other doctor to not only do Williams surgery but also evaluate Greg and Roy's films.

Repped.

 

[julius]

I bet Jason found this out by peeking through blinds.

 

[maxiep]

B4L, GO does wear custom orthotics. He's commented that the only time he doesn't wear them is with dress shoes, because those are too tight.

I should recommend a trip to Port Washington, WI to get some custom fit Allen Edmonds. It's the best money I've ever spent on shoes.

 

[barfo]

That doesn't make any sense. I get annual MRIs on my right knee and I don't get them in a typical MRI. It's a machine where you sit down and they encapsulate your leg with the magnetic envelope.

Maybe Roy's leg is claustrophobic.

barfo

 

[Sug]

OHSU has an open gantry MRI scanner, much bigger and more open then regular MRI machines. It was originally made for scanning race horses, lol. (Not the actual scanner that OHSU has, that model was originally designed for scanning larger things.)

They should put Oden in there, and then put him down after they are done.

 

[Blazer4life]

B4L, GO does wear custom orthotics. He's commented that the only time he doesn't wear them is with dress shoes, because those are too tight.

I should recommend a trip to Port Washington, WI to get some custom fit Allen Edmonds. It's the best money I've ever spent on shoes.

Thanks for the rep. Thats good to know GO has custom orthotics, but I hope that they incorporated a heel lift on his likely shorter limb. To be more detailed (and if any of you were curious or wanted to know more of what I am talking about please read on). In case you guys were ever wondering how to know if there is a limb length discrepency you use a tape measure (like the one you use to measure your arm length and or neck length for suit fitting) and you measure from your anterior superior illiac spine (this is the bump on the anterior aspect of your hip and is easily palpable) to the central portion of the medial malleolus (the ankle) but crossing the tape measure directly over the center of the knee. This is a quick and easy way to know a crude measurement and is very quick to do in clinic. In order to be official you should have limb length scans performed to know the exact difference (but rarely are these ever necesarry). Oh, anything over a centimeter in difference from each side measured is considered significant and a heel lift should be incorporated. The reason I even mention this is because I see many patients in my clinic who complain of knee pain, low back or hip pain and when I ask them if they have ever been measured by their PCP, orthopedic doctor etc for this condition they tell me repeatedly that no one ever told them this could be a source of their pain. Most find an immeadiate improvement in their pain in the 1st couple of weeks and you can imagine if you help straighten out someones alignment that it will keep pressure of the knees etc. Hope this info helps.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Thanks for the rep. Thats good to know GO has custom orthotics, but I hope that they incorporated a heel lift on his likely shorter limb. To be more detailed (and if any of you were curious or wanted to know more of what I am talking about please read on). In case you guys were ever wondering how to know if there is a limb length discrepency you use a tape measure (like the one you use to measure your arm length and or neck length for suit fitting) and you measure from your anterior superior illiac spine (this is the bump on the anterior aspect of your hip and is easily palpable) to the central portion of the medial malleolus (the ankle) but crossing the tape measure directly over the center of the knee. This is a quick and easy way to know a crude measurement and is very quick to do in clinic. In order to be official you should have limb length scans performed to know the exact difference (but rarely are these ever necesarry). Oh, anything over a centimeter in difference from each side measured is considered significant and a heel lift should be incorporated. The reason I even mention this is because I see many patients in my clinic who complain of knee pain, low back or hip pain and when I ask them if they have ever been measured by their PCP, orthopedic doctor etc for this condition they tell me repeatedly that no one ever told them this could be a source of their pain. Most find an immeadiate improvement in their pain in the 1st couple of weeks and you can imagine if you help straighten out someones alignment that it will keep pressure of the knees etc. Hope this info helps.

I have orthotics, but the foam like "padding" on top of the custom made plastic part gets destroyed in like a month and I got tired of getting it replaced so I just stopped wearing them..

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I have orthotics, but the foam like "padding" on top of the custom made plastic part gets destroyed in like a month and I got tired of getting it replaced so I just stopped wearing them..

So are you asking him for advice on fixing this or you just felt like complaining?








BTW, either answer is fine with me.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

So are you asking him for advice on fixing this or you just felt like complaining?







BTW, either answer is fine with me.

Both.