Free Agent Nurk 4/$70m

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My pizza guy just told me that Nurk is on his way out when he is eligible to be traded. Apparently Nurk is going to Indiana for Myles Turner. Said that it was Nurk + Unnamed “young talent” & a future 2nd round pick.

Said the team was all in on making changes to the roster after CJ was traded. Only untouchable player is obviously Lillard. I guess the team wants to pair a quicker more athletic center with Dame.

We basically robbed Denver for Nurk. Helped him get paid, to move him for someone else. I do think that trade is an upgrade for us.
 
PDXFonz said:
My pizza guy just told me that Nurk is on his way out when he is eligible to be traded. Apparently Nurk is going to Indiana for Myles Turner. Said that it was Nurk + Unnamed “young talent” & a future 2nd round pick.

Said the team was all in on making changes to the roster after CJ was traded. Only untouchable player is obviously Lillard. I guess the team wants to pair a quicker more athletic center with Dame.

We basically robbed Denver for Nurk. Helped him get paid, to move him for someone else. I do think that trade is an upgrade for us.
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If it was just an understanding of getting him paid, why would it not have been a sign and trade, instead of waiting 3 months in to the season to deal for an expiring turner.
 
PDXFonz said:
My pizza guy just told me that Nurk is on his way out when he is eligible to be traded. Apparently Nurk is going to Indiana for Myles Turner. Said that it was Nurk + Unnamed “young talent” & a future 2nd round pick.

Said the team was all in on making changes to the roster after CJ was traded. Only untouchable player is obviously Lillard. I guess the team wants to pair a quicker more athletic center with Dame.

We basically robbed Denver for Nurk. Helped him get paid, to move him for someone else. I do think that trade is an upgrade for us.
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The Blazers had been frequently mentioned by league sources as a strong Myles Turner destination, while Detroit's Jerami Grant also emerged as a potential Portland target. But if Lillard is indefinitely sidelined, that would seem to further increase the likelihood of Jusuf Nurkic and Robert Covington heading elsewhere.

Anfernee Simons' recent explosion also has league executives chattering about the future of CJ McCollum in Portland, and to a lesser extent that of Norman Powell. Simons is headed for a lucrative restricted free agency this summer, and Portland is already trying to evade paying the luxury tax.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ame-lillard-surgery-impact-ben-simmons-market
 
RR7 said:
If it was just an understanding of getting him paid, why would it not have been a sign and trade, instead of waiting 3 months in to the season to deal for an expiring turner.
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Turner is not happy in Indiana and the Pacers have had issues negotiating a contract extension with him. Pacers want to move Turner for fear that he might leave in FA.
 
PDXFonz said:
My pizza guy just told me that Nurk is on his way out when he is eligible to be traded. Apparently Nurk is going to Indiana for Myles Turner. Said that it was Nurk + Unnamed “young talent” & a future 2nd round pick.

Said the team was all in on making changes to the roster after CJ was traded. Only untouchable player is obviously Lillard. I guess the team wants to pair a quicker more athletic center with Dame.

We basically robbed Denver for Nurk. Helped him get paid, to move him for someone else. I do think that trade is an upgrade for us.
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I've been a Pizza guy, and a huge sports fan. Sometimes you hear scuttle butt in different places, but 99.9 % of it is pure bullshit. Maybe this turns out to be true, but i doubt it. I don't see Turner as better than Nurk. Different yes.
 
Remember being at Track Town Pizza (My Favorite since Chico's on 82nd, back in the '70's), and a Duck Alum told me they were going to install a more "Manning Like" offense to better suit Justin Herbert. That sure as hell didn't happen.
 
PDXFonz said:
Turner is not happy in Indiana and the Pacers have had issues negotiating a contract extension with him. Pacers want to move Turner for fear that he might leave in FA.
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I get that. I just don't see why, if this was the plan, that it wouldn't have been a S&T of nurk. It makes no sense to outright sign him, and play 35 games with us, establish our rotation and cohesiveness, and then try to insert someone new in that plays totally different.
 
RR7 said:
I get that. I just don't see why, if this was the plan, that it wouldn't have been a S&T of nurk. It makes no sense to outright sign him, and play 35 games with us, establish our rotation and cohesiveness, and then try to insert someone new in that plays totally different.
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Nurk would have to agree to a S&T to Indy. Nurk has no say in being traded in January.
 
Some in here ooh & ah about Turner. I like him as a backup role player. What has he done in Indiana that has led to anything when he had a good surrounding cast? I think he suffers with an inconsistent motor. He can shoot, rebound, and block shots. But even Indiana isn't all in on him. Why is that?
 
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tykendo said:
Some in here ooh & ah about Turner. I like him as a backup role player. What has he done in Indiana that has led to anything when he had a good surrounding cast? I think he suffers with an inconsistent motor. He can shoot, rebound, and block shots. But even Indiana isn't all in on him. Why is that?
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Yes, he's athletic and can block shots. But he hasn't shot well in 3 years, he's really a pretty bad rebounder, and I don't think he's a very good positional defender. Not to mention his health issues.

I think Turner and Grant would be a fun front court on offense, but I think they would be pretty poor on the other end.
 
i dont think billups & cronin wouldve gone to europe to visit nurk if they already have a deal lined up

also, why would they give him 4/70 if they want to deal him, why not offer him less money/years (better value & more tradeable contract) and let him test the market believing he wouldnt get more money from other teams

it doesnt add up at all
 
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Mr. Robot said:
i dont think billups & cronin wouldve gone to europe to visit nurk if they already have a deal lined up

also, why would they give him 4/70 if they want to deal him, why not offer him less money/years (better value & more tradeable contract) and let him test the market believing he wouldnt get more money from other teams

it doesnt add up at all
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If you want to maximize the value of an asset that you might potentially lose, you do what is necessary to retain it. If Nurk didn't feel courted/appreciated, he could have signed anywhere he wanted, and the Blazers would have nothing for him. By wooing and possibly overpaying him, they were able to keep him as a tradeable asset.

Note that I'm not saying that the Blazers want to trade him; just explaining why they might do the things you mentioned even if they didn't actually want to keep him.
 
Mr. Robot said:
i dont think billups & cronin wouldve gone to europe to visit nurk if they already have a deal lined up

also, why would they give him 4/70 if they want to deal him, why not offer him less money/years (better value & more tradeable contract) and let him test the market believing he wouldnt get more money from other teams

it doesnt add up at all
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Everyone here knows I'm not a big Nurk fan but i got to agree with this.
On top of that Turner isn't much an upgrade.
While Nurk is here I'm going to pull for the guy and hope this team and new coach work well for him.
 
So we don't really
BlazerBender said:
I got me some Nurk Fever coming on.

Dame/Ant/Hart/Grant/Nurk
Payton/Sharpe/Little/Walker/Winslow

gonna make some wAvEs!!!!!
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So we don't really have a backup PF or center huh?
 
Turner is a weak rebounder, but he's a fairly elite shot blocker and rim protector. He's also a more efficient shooter than Nurkic and unlike Nurkic doesn't miss a lot of shots around the rim. He could be much more efficient at shooting but for some reason over the last 3 seasons he's chucked up 4 thre's a game while averaging less than 34%. That's poor shot selection

but all that aside, he has the same issue over the last 3 seasons that Nurkic has had: inability to stay healthy. I would think the Larry Nance Jr. experiment last season would have made Portland reluctant to trade for an injury prone big man. Of course they gave a 70M to an injury prone big man so who knows what they are thinking
 
riverman said:
Eubanks, Watford, Sarr...(7 ft French dude) Will play some 5...Grant will play small ball 5.. Walker, Winslow backup PFs....learn the team then post FAMS!
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So your well thought out response to my question is that we will play Grant as a 5….. a player smaller than Nic Batum. And @THE HCP is the one who needs to learn the team? Cmon FAMS!
 
Although Grant is certainly not a center, I can envision playing him there at the end of the game when the opposing team needs a 3-to-tie. I would go with a defensive lineup of GP2, Hart, Little, Winslow, and Grant. I would also use that lineup in a two-point game as well unless the opposing team has a quality true center in the game who can score down low.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Although Grant is certainly not a center, I can envision playing him there at the end of the game when the opposing team needs a 3-to-tie. I would go with a defensive lineup of GP2, Hart, Little, Winslow, and Grant. I would also use that lineup in a two-point game as well unless the opposing team has a quality true center in the game who can score down low.
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Jokic beats him both ways. Not a knock on Grant. Jokic beats a lot of people.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Jokic beats him both ways. Not a knock on Grant. Jokic beats a lot of people.
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Yes he is one of the ones where it would not work. But I don't think there are too many more where a team would go away from their star players just because they like the center match-up against Grant. Even Phoenix who has a center who is much better, do they really want to take the ball out of Booker, CP3, or Bridges' hands for a last-second shot? I can live with that.
 
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