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Is it possible for the Blazers to build a contender with Nurk Grant Simon's starting?

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 48.8%

  • No

    Votes: 22 51.2%
  • Total voters
    43
riverman said:
When Gary Payton gets on the court this will not be such an issue
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That's a good point. I guess you are saying that if Lillard and Simons don't play as many minutes. maybe they can give full effort on both offense AND defense?
Or are you saying that if one of them at a time can play with both Grant and Payton, they can give even less effort on D? :)
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
That's a good point. I guess you are saying that if Lillard and Simons don't play as many minutes. maybe they can give full effort on both offense AND defense?
Or are you saying that if one of them at a time can play with both Grant and Payton, they can give even less effort on D? :)
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you can hide one weak defender so staggering Ant and Dame with Payton and Hart gives you a pt of attack defender which takes pressure off Grant and Nurk
 
I hear what you area saying. but it seems like Anf and Lillard will always play at least 15 minutes together every night. I just wonder if this is sustainable over the long run? If they can both shoot over 40% on threes, maybe so......
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Couldn't really find any place to put this.
Somehow this quote was unsettling for me. Maybe it jarred my sense of fairness. Will Grant someday get tired of making up for Lillard and Simons lack of height, athleticism and defensive energy?
“I think he’s added a layer to our team on both ends of the floor,” Lillard told HoopsHype before the Blazers faced the Nets at Barclays Center. “A lot of times, he’s taking the toughest matchup defensively. He’s using his size, length and athleticism to be disruptive and give guys like Anfernee and myself the opportunity to play off the ball and not wear ourselves out on the defensive end of the floor every possession and then have to go score and make plays as much as we do offensively. On offense, he’s been able to score in isolation, transition, hit catch-and-shoot threes, and post up. He’s doing so many different things for us on both ends of the floor. He’s so versatile. It’s made us a much better team having him.”
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With Dame out of the lineup the defense has gotten way worse. The better question is why are people still blaming the Dame/Ant back court instead of asking why the defense is worse with Winslow starting. Can't blame the poor defense the last 3 games on a small back court.
 
hoopsjock said:
With Dame out of the lineup the defense has gotten way worse. The better question is why are people still blaming the Dame/Ant back court instead of asking why the defense is worse with Winslow starting. Can't blame the poor defense the last 3 games on a small back court.
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Winslow definitely has some defensive problems lately.
 
hoopsjock said:
Also, I think you're misinterpreting that quote.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/269502/Jerami-Grant-Really-Happy-With-Trail-Blazers
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I understand that he's happy right now. But what about once he understands the full implications of that quote: "He’s using his size, length and athleticism to be disruptive and give guys like Anfernee and myself the opportunity to play off the ball and not wear ourselves out on the defensive end of the floor every possession and then have to go score and make plays as much as we do offensively."
And how come he is able to use all that energy on defense and still be more efficient offensively than Lillard or Simons? I still don't like the tone of that quote.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I understand that he's happy right now. But what about once he understands the full implications of that quote: "He’s using his size, length and athleticism to be disruptive and give guys like Anfernee and myself the opportunity to play off the ball and not wear ourselves out on the defensive end of the floor every possession and then have to go score and make plays as much as we do offensively."
And how come he is able to use all that energy on defense and still be more efficient offensively than Lillard or Simons? I still don't like the tone of that quote.
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lol.....


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Those two are sorely needed and it's important to see how it will all work together.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I understand that he's happy right now. But what about once he understands the full implications of that quote: "He’s using his size, length and athleticism to be disruptive and give guys like Anfernee and myself the opportunity to play off the ball and not wear ourselves out on the defensive end of the floor every possession and then have to go score and make plays as much as we do offensively."
And how come he is able to use all that energy on defense and still be more efficient offensively than Lillard or Simons? I still don't like the tone of that quote.
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I think you're turning something innocent into a problem. That's literally what Grant was brought in to do. As far as the efficiency goes, part of that is because of how much attention Dame/Ant receive. For the record, Dame was having his most efficient season ever until the 2-14 shooting game he reinjured his calf in.
 
Does Rasta think I am EdO? BTW I don't think I am pessimistic; just kind of a worrier some times. Just worried that the team might get off the track that Billups wants them on. Still concerned about the balance of the roster.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I understand that he's happy right now. But what about once he understands the full implications of that quote: "He’s using his size, length and athleticism to be disruptive and give guys like Anfernee and myself the opportunity to play off the ball and not wear ourselves out on the defensive end of the floor every possession and then have to go score and make plays as much as we do offensively."
And how come he is able to use all that energy on defense and still be more efficient offensively than Lillard or Simons? I still don't like the tone of that quote.
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Grant wants the extra responsibility. That’s why he left Denver. He wanted more of a challenge. Detroit was too much challenge. Portland is perfect.
 
hoopsjock said:
I think you're turning something innocent into a problem. That's literally what Grant was brought in to do. As far as the efficiency goes, part of that is because of how much attention Dame/Ant receive. For the record, Dame was having his most efficient season ever until the 2-14 shooting game he reinjured his calf in.
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Did he reinjure his calf? I thought it was a different calf.
 
To answer the OP’s question, this team would win 70 games:

Dame/Simons/Grant/Giannis/Nurk

Bench: Hart, Winslow, Sharpe, Walker, GP2
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Every once in a while @Ed O sticks his head up above the ground and makes me look optimistic by comparison.
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We are doomed to mediocrity for a couple of years, and then things will get worse as we pay our aging core more money and either pay guys like Grant and Hart or watch them walk without having talent to replace them.

*sigh*

I wish I weren't so pessimistic, but knowing that management that signed Payton and extended Dame like they did is in place, I don't really see any alternative.
 
Ed O said:
We are doomed to mediocrity for a couple of years, and then things will get worse as we pay our aging core more money and either pay guys like Grant and Hart or watch them walk without having talent to replace them.

*sigh*

I wish I weren't so pessimistic, but knowing that management that signed Payton and extended Dame like they did is in place, I don't really see any alternative.
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I don't think Hart will be on the roster next year.
 
Ed O said:
We are doomed to mediocrity for a couple of years, and then things will get worse as we pay our aging core more money and either pay guys like Grant and Hart or watch them walk without having talent to replace them.

*sigh*

I wish I weren't so pessimistic, but knowing that management that signed Payton and extended Dame like they did is in place, I don't really see any alternative.
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I've got a book you might like, Ed:
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KSF-ERIC said:
Grant wants the extra responsibility. That’s why he left Denver. He wanted more of a challenge. Detroit was too much challenge. Portland is perfect.
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It's kinda interesting that you made this comment on Monday and then Lillard pretty much said the exact same thing in his interview on TNT during the Clippers game on Tuesday.
It's been said many times, even SAS said it on First Take as well as Danny Marang, but hearing it from Lillard has me believing it.
 
Ed O said:
We are doomed to mediocrity for a couple of years, and then things will get worse as we pay our aging core more money and either pay guys like Grant and Hart or watch them walk without having talent to replace them.

*sigh*

I wish I weren't so pessimistic, but knowing that management that signed Payton and extended Dame like they did is in place, I don't really see any alternative.
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Sharpe is really the only chance this roster has of becoming a contender, would need him to be an all-star or superstar, then also have management round out the roster with the right final pieces.

I'm not sure which of those is more unlikely, to hit both is exponentially slim.
 
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