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Vonleh is an irritating player. He looks like he has tremendous physical tools and skill but it has never translated onto the court. Dude shoots under .500 from 0-3, that is absolutely pathetic.

He's too short. That's my biggest issue with Noah. He's still trying to act like bigger PF, but he's easily blocked under the rim. He doesn't seem to be adding any moves or a more consistent jumper to open things up either. Maybe being paired with a legit C like Nurkic will help him? I'm not optimistic for him.
 
I have long held the belief that Plumlee was a really good backup center on a good/playoff team. Not a really good starting center. Too many crucial holes in his game (shooting, rim protecting). But don't get me wrong, I appreciated his hustle and athleticism. He was our 3rd best player.

Kudos to N.O. for landing a real center. He's young, and skilled and hopefully can stay healthy.
 
Dude's got an attitude. We definitely need it.

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Classic. And couldn't have happened to a nice guy.
 
Vonleh is an irritating player. He looks like he has tremendous physical tools and skill but it has never translated onto the court. Dude shoots under .500 from 0-3, that is absolutely pathetic.
Vonleh has the potential of someone like Al Horford but plays like he's Tyrus Thomas.
 
Dude's got an attitude. We definitely need it.

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I like his attitude but it could be said in this video he was actually being nice after knocking the guy down, not letting the ball fall on his face after scoring on him. Either way, it's funny.
 
He's too short. That's my biggest issue with Noah.

He's 6'10''. That's a classic size for a power forward. He's been rebounding well, so he has the size and physicality to compete. He struggles near the hoop because he's passive and doesn't have a refined inside game. No idea whether he'll develop the necessary skills or aggression (I imagine those two things are tied together to an extent). Even if he never learns to be a crafty inside player, he can be valuable if he adds some consistency to his shot, continues rebounding and improves his defense.
 
I'm sure somebody has said this already; but NOW, we REALLY need a top big man coach! And from what I have read this kid might need a personal psychologist also. If we could combine the two, that would be great.
 
I'm sure somebody has said this already; but NOW, we REALLY need a top big man coach! And from what I have read this kid might need a personal psychologist also. If we could combine the two, that would be great.

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Tony Robbins is 6'7"....
 
Vonleh was measured 6' 8" w/o shoes at combine.

Yeah but as they say "you don't play with the top of your head". (Or something to that effect)
His wing and standing reach make him average for a PF, not short.
 
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He doesn't move well enough laterally to play PF full time. He'll get killed on the perimeter against most teams. I do think he can play PF against certain teams however, even though he can't shoot. His passing spaces the court. You can't just leave him open.

Plumlee's ability to hedge on guards and get back to the rim is pretty elite. I think he would do okay against most stretch 4's, but maybe not the Aminu-masquerading-as-a-PF types.
 
Yeah but as they say "you don't play with the top of your head". (Or something to that effect)
His wing and standing reach make him average for a PF, not short.

His wingspan measured 7'4.25". That's quite a bit above average. I do agree he has a long neck and his standing reach is not as impressive, but is the same as Phys-Ed, Anthony Davis, Ezeli, Leonard and Plumlee.
 
He's too short. That's my biggest issue with Noah. He's still trying to act like bigger PF, but he's easily blocked under the rim. He doesn't seem to be adding any moves or a more consistent jumper to open things up either. Maybe being paired with a legit C like Nurkic will help him? I'm not optimistic for him.
Vonleh could use some Zach Randolph tutelage. As long as it's limited to on the court.
 
I noticed a couple guys on here speculated that Nurkic was a pretty good shot in the 16-20 range. I just thought I would check on that, at least in 2016-17, not true. Shot 25% in the 8-16 range, 23% in the 16-24 range.

OK, found 2015-16, much better 37% 8-`16 feet and 44% 16-24 feet.

(Was he really dogging it this year?)
 
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I like his attitude but it could be said in this video he was actually being nice after knocking the guy down, not letting the ball fall on his face after scoring on him. Either way, it's funny.

He got a Tech for that. I'm sorry, saying that was unsportsmanlike is to close to judging intent. I would've just called a Delay Of Game Warning. It let's him know to simply stop touching the ball when it goes through the hoop.
 
He got a Tech for that. I'm sorry, saying that was unsportsmanlike is to close to judging intent. I would've just called a Delay Of Game Warning. It let's him know to simply stop touching the ball when it goes through the hoop.

You wouldn't consider that taunting?
 

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