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Almir said:
Hello to all. This is my first post. English is not my native language so excuse me for the mistakes. I am Almir from Bosnia and of course started to follow your team since Nurk is there. I want to join your conversation, and my posts will be honests without too much love for Nurk when he plays bad -he playes bad. But before anything related to basketball, i really felt that i must reply on post abput lazy Bosnians. This is a real untrue and most ridiculos thing i have seen. I hope that you do not take this as serious. Bosnians are lazy and as well balkans people? The people who work hard for low money? The people who work hardest jobs in West European countries including Germany because Germans do not like that kind of jobs and let them to imigrants from all over the world? Of course underpaid...the people who live in my country with 200 usd dolars per month pay check but are always with smile on faces....it is not fair to speak like this about nations. You can say for somebody that is lazy you have those people on each country it is not the caracter of the Bosnians nor Balkans. Nurk is not lazy. You should see where he started and played basketball and manago to get nba. Many German per example people will never even to try to and train play basketball or any other sport. Only his HARD work. Not lazy work. Excuse me as this is my first post. All others will be related to the topic and this game and your team which i really started to love besides Nurk. For now my favorit players are Lillard and Napier alongside Nurk of course.
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Welcome! It's always great to have more Bosnian fans here. You're english is great.
 
Labinot41 said:
Don't know how to say in english but i give my best: i talked with a guy on a German forum and that guy is half German and half bosnian, he is also NBA fan and has watched a lot of Blazers Games this year because he wanted to see Nurkic, and he says his laziness is because of his bosnian mentality and this will never change because thats in his DNA. A lot of people from Balkan or ex-Yugoslavia are Lazy and don't like to Work and get Money from the State. He also thinks when he get's paid in Summer he sits on his Ass the rest of his Career and have Maybe 20 Good Games and the rest are bad. I don't know how to Think about that, because every human is different in my oppinion, but maybe he could be right about Nurkic. I Really Hope he doesn't get more than 15 Million per year
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Damn.... that's some racist shit right there.
 
Almir said:
Hello to all. This is my first post. English is not my native language so excuse me for the mistakes. I am Almir from Bosnia and of course started to follow your team since Nurk is there. I want to join your conversation, and my posts will be honests without too much love for Nurk when he plays bad -he playes bad. But before anything related to basketball, i really felt that i must reply on post abput lazy Bosnians. This is a real untrue and most ridiculos thing i have seen. I hope that you do not take this as serious. Bosnians are lazy and as well balkans people? The people who work hard for low money? The people who work hardest jobs in West European countries including Germany because Germans do not like that kind of jobs and let them to imigrants from all over the world? Of course underpaid...the people who live in my country with 200 usd dolars per month pay check but are always with smile on faces....it is not fair to speak like this about nations. You can say for somebody that is lazy you have those people on each country it is not the caracter of the Bosnians nor Balkans. Nurk is not lazy. You should see where he started and played basketball and manago to get nba. Many German per example people will never even to try to and train play basketball or any other sport. Only his HARD work. Not lazy work. Excuse me as this is my first post. All others will be related to the topic and this game and your team which i really started to love besides Nurk. For now my favorit players are Lillard and Napier alongside Nurk of course.
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Great post.....welcome to the boards...we agree about Nurk....my earlier post
riverman said:
Stereotype much? Those are not the people who work hard enough to start on an NBA team......every country has slackers...I'm sure there are plenty of lazy Germans too...lot of basketball players come from near poverty to having enough to care for their families...
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SlyPokerDog said:
Welcome! It's always great to have more Bosnian fans here. You're english is great.
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Thank you very much! I enyoy to watch Portland even i can't watch every match as you play home matches at 4 o clock in the morning so sometimes is hard to watch especially if i am on early shift at my work. But i have seen many games up to now. It is easier on the east road there as three hours earlier so i manage it litlle bit easier. I really want you to play off and go maximum there. I really like your team and when Nurk is good and you win i am then full happy. Just win as much as is possibile. I will try to write you what our media and fans speak and write about your team. Nurk is our Bosnian best player and many people are watching and following you. We are small nation, young nation and do not have many stars. All the best for all Portland fans.
 
riverman said:
Great post.....welcome to the boards...we agree about Nurk....my earlier post
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Thank you for this. Honestly i was really upset about this comment and especially on Portland' s forum which i read on daily basis. Thanks
 
Almir said:
Thank you very much! I enyoy to watch Portland even i can't watch every match as you play home matches at 4 o clock in the morning so sometimes is hard to watch especially if i am on early shift at my work. But i have seen many games up to now. It is easier on the east road there as three hours earlier so i manage it litlle bit easier. I really want you to play off and go maximum there. I really like your team and when Nurk is good and you win i am then full happy. Just win as much as is possibile. I will try to write you what our media and fans speak and write about your team. Nurk is our Bosnian best player and many people are watching and following you. We are small nation, young nation and do not have many stars. All the best for all Portland fans.
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All the best to you too. I am happy to read your posts, and will look forward to reading what you share from the Bosnian media.
 
DameLill379 said:
Exactly this. If he doesn’t accept...we have a big decision to make. ET, Mo Hark and Meyers Leonard need to go immediately though. That should free up some room for a attempt at Nurk and maybe a decent role player or 2
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I don't think we're able to get rid of all 3 without giving up multiple picks/young pieces, and those would probably be just as valuable as a little bit of cap space. We would have our ~$8.5M MLE if we were under the tax, which we could use.
 
B-Roy said:
I don't much weight into RPM. ESPN doesn't even disclose how they calculate it.
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Actually they do:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/10740818/introducing-real-plus-minus

RPM stats are provided by Jeremias Engelmann in consultation with Steve Ilardi. RPM is based on Engelmann's xRAPM (Regularized Adjusted Plus-Minus). Play-by-play data provided by Basketball-Reference.com.

https://www.nbastuffer.com/analytics101/regularized-adjusted-plus-minus-rapm/

The enhancement with the RAPM is a Bayesian technique in which the data is combined with theoretical beliefs regarding reasonable, large data ranges for the parameters in order to produce more accurate models. That is what ridge regressiondoes.

It will require access to large computing power and data sets to calculate it - but the math is pretty well understood.

Even if you do not like this isolated +/- approach, the raw data shows Nurkic at -1.8 per 100 possessions vs +4.5 per 100 possessions for Ed. (Basketball reference).

There is all the reason in the world to play Nurk more than Ed - because there is clear untapped potential with him - where I do not think there really is any more for Ed - but the statistics - either raw or isolated - do not suggest that Portland is better with Nurk on the court overall this year. Given that balancing act, I do not think that there is a real reason to play more of Nurk than the coaching staff already does. They clearly have to walk an interesting tight-rope between development, need to win games and instilling proper habits.
 
Newest article on our main sports we pages - report from Pacers match and statement by Nurkic after the game where he said following (shortly):

He wants to continue where he started, he is one year there and want play off again.

(On Olatip incident) he said it is good to be bad sometimes (smile) but it is only during the match nothing else.

Also he stressed that they know what is not good in their game and they will try hard to fix it and make the City to be proud.

Last sentence is that he does'nt care what anybody say for Lillard - he is for Nurk superstar in the team.

So i do not know is this statement for your media or ours sorry if double.
 
Almir said:
Hello to all. This is my first post. English is not my native language so excuse me for the mistakes. I am Almir from Bosnia and of course started to follow your team since Nurk is there. I want to join your conversation, and my posts will be honests without too much love for Nurk when he plays bad -he playes bad. But before anything related to basketball, i really felt that i must reply on post abput lazy Bosnians. This is a real untrue and most ridiculos thing i have seen. I hope that you do not take this as serious. Bosnians are lazy and as well balkans people? The people who work hard for low money? The people who work hardest jobs in West European countries including Germany because Germans do not like that kind of jobs and let them to imigrants from all over the world? Of course underpaid...the people who live in my country with 200 usd dolars per month pay check but are always with smile on faces....it is not fair to speak like this about nations. You can say for somebody that is lazy you have those people on each country it is not the caracter of the Bosnians nor Balkans. Nurk is not lazy. You should see where he started and played basketball and manago to get nba. Many German per example people will never even to try to and train play basketball or any other sport. Only his HARD work. Not lazy work. Excuse me as this is my first post. All others will be related to the topic and this game and your team which i really started to love besides Nurk. For now my favorit players are Lillard and Napier alongside Nurk of course.
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Welcome to the board !

Also I don't think anyone agrees with this "Bosnian are lazy" shit. The post has 0 likes too
 
This is how i see Nurk recently.

Defense - overall very good and team is overally better in this department with him on the court. Must be more carefull for fouls but have feeling that he is not well respected by some refferes comparing to oponents mostly star players. But i assume that is normal.

Offense - has to improve various issues -shot from distance, pick and roll play with all other players except Lillard....do not know why he is very good when plays with Lillard but not that good with others ( sometimes)...must be more hungry for offensive rebounds simply because he can manage them when he is hungry for that.

Be more consistent as well. He is young so i have hope that he will be really good player and that best of him will be in your shirt. He said last year that he found his second home it seems that he really love this team especcially good conection with Lillard and he love the City.

Note i wasn't able to watch all of your matches but only read reports so this based on what i have seen. From this point of wiew overally i think he is worth to be in the team and wait for his improvement.
 
Almir said:
Hello to all. This is my first post. English is not my native language so excuse me for the mistakes. I am Almir from Bosnia and of course started to follow your team since Nurk is there. I want to join your conversation, and my posts will be honests without too much love for Nurk when he plays bad -he playes bad. But before anything related to basketball, i really felt that i must reply on post abput lazy Bosnians. This is a real untrue and most ridiculos thing i have seen. I hope that you do not take this as serious. Bosnians are lazy and as well balkans people? The people who work hard for low money? The people who work hardest jobs in West European countries including Germany because Germans do not like that kind of jobs and let them to imigrants from all over the world? Of course underpaid...the people who live in my country with 200 usd dolars per month pay check but are always with smile on faces....it is not fair to speak like this about nations. You can say for somebody that is lazy you have those people on each country it is not the caracter of the Bosnians nor Balkans. Nurk is not lazy. You should see where he started and played basketball and manago to get nba. Many German per example people will never even to try to and train play basketball or any other sport. Only his HARD work. Not lazy work. Excuse me as this is my first post. All others will be related to the topic and this game and your team which i really started to love besides Nurk. For now my favorit players are Lillard and Napier alongside Nurk of course.
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Read again, i said i dont know about that because for me every human is different, that was the oppinion of that guy in the forum i talked with and he is half bosnian, and he said he knows a lot of bosnian people who are Lazy and doesn't like to work, and that's a Balkan mentality. I Never said that is my oppinion
 
Almir said:
Hello to all. This is my first post. English is not my native language so excuse me for the mistakes. I am Almir from Bosnia and of course started to follow your team since Nurk is there. I want to join your conversation, and my posts will be honests without too much love for Nurk when he plays bad -he playes bad. But before anything related to basketball, i really felt that i must reply on post abput lazy Bosnians. This is a real untrue and most ridiculos thing i have seen. I hope that you do not take this as serious. Bosnians are lazy and as well balkans people? The people who work hard for low money? The people who work hardest jobs in West European countries including Germany because Germans do not like that kind of jobs and let them to imigrants from all over the world? Of course underpaid...the people who live in my country with 200 usd dolars per month pay check but are always with smile on faces....it is not fair to speak like this about nations. You can say for somebody that is lazy you have those people on each country it is not the caracter of the Bosnians nor Balkans. Nurk is not lazy. You should see where he started and played basketball and manago to get nba. Many German per example people will never even to try to and train play basketball or any other sport. Only his HARD work. Not lazy work. Excuse me as this is my first post. All others will be related to the topic and this game and your team which i really started to love besides Nurk. For now my favorit players are Lillard and Napier alongside Nurk of course.
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Welcome to the forum! I don't think anyone here thinks Bosnians are lazy except that one guy. Nurk worked his ass off this past summer and you can tell by the way he changed his body. I love the guy, I just think he might be a little immature still. He's going to be very good.
 
Labinot41 said:
Read again, i said i dont know about that because for me every human is different, that was the oppinion of that guy in the forum i talked with and he is half bosnian, and he said he knows a lot of bosnian people who are Lazy and doesn't like to work, and that's a Balkan mentality. I Never said that is my oppinion
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That was no sense to even write it anywhere. Fair from you to say that you do not share that opinion. I can only imagine as you said he is half bosnian and half german? Ok we are not rich and stable country nor most of our people are same as per example germans. Your guy probably does not like his Bosnian part and want to be bigger german then real German. I do not know english word for those kind of people but nevermind, i do not want to write about this anymore.

Just advice for that man - do not shame of your dna, your motherhood and your nation. Bigger shame is when you want to be someone else. When you are what you are, and if you are a good man it will be respected no matter are you German Bosnian or anybody else. We do not have same destiny and luck in the life, and we can't choose where to born, but we can choose our character and personality.
 
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tlongII said:
Welcome to the forum! I don't think anyone here thinks Bosnians are lazy except that one guy. Nurk worked his ass off this past summer and you can tell by the way he changed his body. I love the guy, I just think he might be a little immature still. He's going to be very good.
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Thank you! I will follow the prospect of him and your team together with you for sure. Hope will be more positive than negative. Let's see it.
 
Almir said:
That was no sense to even write it anywhere. Fair from you to say that you do not share that opinion. I can only imagine as you said he is half bosnian and half german? Ok we are not rich and stable country nor most of our people are same as per example germans. Your guy probably does not like his Bosnian part and want to be bigger german then real German. I do not know english word for those kind of people but nevermind, i do not want to write about this anymore.

Just advice for your mate - do not shame of your dna, your motherhood and your nation. Bigger shame is when you want to be someone else. When you are what you are, and if you are a good man it will be respected no matter are you German Bosnian or anybody else. We do not have same destiny and luck in the life, and we can't choose where to born, but we can choose our character and personality.
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You don't have to tell me this. I know that i could also live in a slump in Africa, Asia or whoever and im Lucky to live in a Rich country. Im a Humble guy. But back to Nurkic, Why isn't he playing with the same effort each Game? Why he has to get benched against the phoenix fucking suns to Remind him not to play Lazy? This is his fucking Contract Year! What do you think his effort will be after he get's his payday this Summer? There is a reason Why Nuggets fans told me on RealGM After that trade that they are Happy to get rid of him because of his laziness and no effort during the games. I don't want to Sound like a hater because i like Nurkic, but i dont Think that he has a Future in Portland, imo he is a Average Center and portland has a lot of Average Players, they don't Need more. Probably that's the reason Why Collins got so many playing Time in his 1st year
 
Labinot41 said:
Why isn't he playing with the same effort each Game?
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First...nobody does ...second...his defense is stellar....3rd...best time to rest a starter is against a bottom feeding team..CJ had a few really bad games...he gets a free pass though. Denver has had a cancerous locker room for a long time.
 
Well i am not competent to answer on all your questions. I respect your opinion. You can see my my post above where i said few same things about him and what he need to improve. If you ask how he played before nba i can tell you a lot but it is not same level. He still has to become or not big player. He took nba chalenge as very young and came from a bit another, lower level. In Denver he did not have a chemistry needed for this, and it was between Jokic (who is very good player) and him in that sistem. Have you seen how Nurk played first two mutual matches against Nuggets? Maybe you will be right and maybe he will not be nothing more than average center. Maybe wrong and he will develop into very valued player lets say like that. My point is that he is worth to have a litle bit more time to show it. Not too long ok.
 
Labinot41 said:
Don't know how to say in english but i give my best: i talked with a guy on a German forum and that guy is half German and half bosnian, he is also NBA fan and has watched a lot of Blazers Games this year because he wanted to see Nurkic, and he says his laziness is because of his bosnian mentality and this will never change because thats in his DNA. A lot of people from Balkan or ex-Yugoslavia are Lazy and don't like to Work and get Money from the State. He also thinks when he get's paid in Summer he sits on his Ass the rest of his Career and have Maybe 20 Good Games and the rest are bad. I don't know how to Think about that, because every human is different in my oppinion, but maybe he could be right about Nurkic. I Really Hope he doesn't get more than 15 Million per year
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Your German guy, is a fucking racist.
 
Almir said:
Thank you very much! I enyoy to watch Portland even i can't watch every match as you play home matches at 4 o clock in the morning so sometimes is hard to watch especially if i am on early shift at my work. But i have seen many games up to now. It is easier on the east road there as three hours earlier so i manage it litlle bit easier. I really want you to play off and go maximum there. I really like your team and when Nurk is good and you win i am then full happy. Just win as much as is possibile. I will try to write you what our media and fans speak and write about your team. Nurk is our Bosnian best player and many people are watching and following you. We are small nation, young nation and do not have many stars. All the best for all Portland fans.
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Welcome to the forum!
 
Labinot41 said:
Read again, i said i dont know about that because for me every human is different, that was the oppinion of that guy in the forum i talked with and he is half bosnian, and he said he knows a lot of bosnian people who are Lazy and doesn't like to work, and that's a Balkan mentality. I Never said that is my oppinion
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Why post the idiotic opinion of some racist though? Who gives a fuck about his idiotic beliefs about Bosnians?

#Youcan'tlose30lbswithoutWORK
 
Labinot41 said:
You don't have to tell me this. I know that i could also live in a slump in Africa, Asia or whoever and im Lucky to live in a Rich country. Im a Humble guy. But back to Nurkic, Why isn't he playing with the same effort each Game? Why he has to get benched against the phoenix fucking suns to Remind him not to play Lazy? This is his fucking Contract Year! What do you think his effort will be after he get's his payday this Summer? There is a reason Why Nuggets fans told me on RealGM After that trade that they are Happy to get rid of him because of his laziness and no effort during the games. I don't want to Sound like a hater because i like Nurkic, but i dont Think that he has a Future in Portland, imo he is a Average Center and portland has a lot of Average Players, they don't Need more. Probably that's the reason Why Collins got so many playing Time in his 1st year
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This CERTAINLY MUST be because of his Bosnian heritage.

I'm starting to think you don't really have a "German friend"...
 
Labinot41 said:
Nope, learn Read ;-)
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If you could read you'd recognize I was talking about the German guy, and you'd use the word "to" so your sentences can be formulated properly.

Why don't you think all Bosnians are lazy?

Because that would be racist right? Riiiiight....
 
dviss1 said:
Why post the idiotic opinion of some racist though? Who gives a fuck about his idiotic beliefs about Bosnians?

#Youcan'tlose30lbswithoutWORK
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Because this guy knows the mentality of bosnian people, he knows that many people from ex-yugoslavia, not all but many, doesn't like hard work. Again i dont share that oppinion, but a lot of West eurpeans have not the best oppinion about immigrants from Eastern europe, same like Americans about mecicans. But fact is, Nurkic has been a Lazy Dude in Denver and he's also Lazy in Portland, Why the fuck do you think Stotts has benched him? I don't know if that's because of his "bosnian mentality", but it could be reason for his sloppy playing this year
 
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