NYC Liberals shocked by Obamacare

[Shooter]

It is not lost on many of the professionals that they are exactly the sort of people – liberal, concerned with social justice – who supported the Obama health plan in the first place. Ms. Meinwald, the lawyer, said she was a lifelong Democrat who still supported better health care for all, but had she known what was in store for her, she would have voted for Mitt Romney.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/14/n...for-new-york-professionals.html?smid=fb-share

Sorry, Ms. Meinwald, you voted for Obama and it's a little late to change your mind now. But hey, enjoy Obamacare!

 

[Da Bears Oregon]

I have no sympathy for dumb asses that thought Obamacare was going to be good for them. The handwriting was on the wall. Just wait til this time next year when the rest of the country will LOSE their current Healthcare plans thru their employer. The shit will really hit the fan.

 

[Denny Crane]

I have no sympathy for dumb asses that thought Obamacare was going to be good for them. The handwriting was on the wall. Just wait til this time next year when the rest of the country will LOSE their current Healthcare plans thru their employer. The shit will really hit the fan.

This.

 

[Masbee]

I have no sympathy for dumb asses that thought Obamacare was going to be good for them. The handwriting was on the wall. Just wait til this time next year when the rest of the country will LOSE their current Healthcare plans thru their employer. The shit will really hit the fan.

Anybody that voted for Obama in 2012 and is now complaining - even the tiniest bit - truly - shut your damn trap. People were screaming at the rooftops during the campaign trying to educate voters about this issue and many more - much of which blew up in the mainstream media AFTER the election. But all the data was there and available if you cared to look. If you didn't pay attention, DON'T VOTE.


We have received notice that our small business plan will be cancelled December 2014 and the equivalent replacement plan will cost.........twice as much. Our plan was not a "junk" plan. It was one of the best plans with the highest rated provider in the state.


We checked out the individual market, and the prices are just as bad. So there will be no good options unless there are significant changes in the law before the end of next year.


Since we are not currently profitable, there is no slack in the budget to make up for this massive increase. Once faced with that bill I will have to cancel employer provided insurance, execute lay offs, or close the business.

 

[Carlito]

Obamacare is great I think. Helping my mother big time. Thanks Obama!

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Anybody that voted for Obama in 2012 and is now complaining - even the tiniest bit - truly - shut your damn trap. People were screaming at the rooftops during the campaign trying to educate voters about this issue and many more - much of which blew up in the mainstream media AFTER the election. But all the data was there and available if you cared to look. If you didn't pay attention, DON'T VOTE.


We have received notice that our small business plan will be cancelled December 2014 and the equivalent replacement plan will cost.........twice as much. Our plan was not a "junk" plan. It was one of the best plans with the highest rated provider in the state.


We checked out the individual market, and the prices are just as bad. So there will be no good options unless there are significant changes in the law before the end of next year.


Since we are not currently profitable, there is no slack in the budget to make up for this massive increase. Once faced with that bill I will have to cancel employer provided insurance, execute lay offs, or close the business.

rep'd

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Obamacare is great I think. Helping my mother big time. Thanks Obama!

Damn smart mouth rookies.

 

[Denny Crane]

WSJ weighs in. The article is long, but terrific.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303932504579256300070093302

Meanwhile, the New York Times has a report on "many in New York's professional and cultural elite," who "have long supported President Obama's health care plan," but "now, to their surprise . . . are learning that their health insurance plans are being canceled."

These are freelancers who belonged to group plans set up by professional associations. Under ObamaCare, "they will be treated as individuals, responsible for their own insurance policies." That means higher premiums, higher deductibles and inferior coverage.

The piece closes with what to us is a savory slice of Schadenfreude:

It is an uncomfortable position for many members of the creative classes to be in. "We are the Obama people," said Camille Sweeney, a New York writer and member of the Authors Guild. Her insurance is being canceled, and she is dismayed that neither her pediatrician nor her general practitioner appears to be on the exchange plans. What to do has become a hot topic on Facebook and at dinner parties frequented by her fellow writers and artists.​

"I'm for it," she said. "But what is the reality of it?"

Damn you, reality!

 

[Shooter]

NYTimes: Health Exchange Information Riddled with Errors

It's hard to imagine a bigger screwup than Obamacare, which keeps getting more and more ridiculous by the day . . . The incompetence is staggering.

Insurers said that they had found many discrepancies and errors and that the government was overstating the improvements in HealthCare.gov.

In some instances, they said, the federal government reported that the home address for a new policyholder was outside an insurer’s service area. In other cases, a child was listed as the main subscriber — the person responsible for paying premiums — and parents were listed as dependents.

In some cases, children were enrolled in a policy by the federal government and parents were left off, or vice versa. In other cases, the government mixed up the members of a family: A child or spouse was listed two or three times in the same application in late November. Such errors can have financial implications, increasing the amount of premiums that a family is required to pay.

While some of the problems were discovered in the last few days, insurers said that they had previously reported many of the errors to the “help desk” at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, and that the problems remained unresolved.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/u...-fixes-are-overstated-insurers-report.html?hp

 

[Eastoff]

Re: NYTimes: Health Exchange Information Riddled with Errors

It's hard to imagine a bigger screwup than Obamacare, which keeps getting more and more ridiculous by the day . . . The incompetence is staggering.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/u...-fixes-are-overstated-insurers-report.html?hp

This is a website issue, not really an "Obamacare" issue. But all of the other problems listed I will not argue against. There have been a lot of bad outcomes.

 

[maxiep]

I have no sympathy for dumb asses that thought Obamacare was going to be good for them. The handwriting was on the wall. Just wait til this time next year when the rest of the country will LOSE their current Healthcare plans thru their employer. The shit will really hit the fan.

Repped.

 

[maxiep]

Anybody that voted for Obama in 2012 and is now complaining - even the tiniest bit - truly - shut your damn trap. People were screaming at the rooftops during the campaign trying to educate voters about this issue and many more - much of which blew up in the mainstream media AFTER the election. But all the data was there and available if you cared to look. If you didn't pay attention, DON'T VOTE.


We have received notice that our small business plan will be cancelled December 2014 and the equivalent replacement plan will cost.........twice as much. Our plan was not a "junk" plan. It was one of the best plans with the highest rated provider in the state.


We checked out the individual market, and the prices are just as bad. So there will be no good options unless there are significant changes in the law before the end of next year.


Since we are not currently profitable, there is no slack in the budget to make up for this massive increase. Once faced with that bill I will have to cancel employer provided insurance, execute lay offs, or close the business.

Repped and sorry to hear about your troubles.

 

[maxiep]

WSJ weighs in. The article is long, but terrific.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303932504579256300070093302

Meanwhile, the New York Times has a report on "many in New York's professional and cultural elite," who "have long supported President Obama's health care plan," but "now, to their surprise . . . are learning that their health insurance plans are being canceled."

These are freelancers who belonged to group plans set up by professional associations. Under ObamaCare, "they will be treated as individuals, responsible for their own insurance policies." That means higher premiums, higher deductibles and inferior coverage.

The piece closes with what to us is a savory slice of Schadenfreude:

It is an uncomfortable position for many members of the creative classes to be in. "We are the Obama people," said Camille Sweeney, a New York writer and member of the Authors Guild. Her insurance is being canceled, and she is dismayed that neither her pediatrician nor her general practitioner appears to be on the exchange plans. What to do has become a hot topic on Facebook and at dinner parties frequented by her fellow writers and artists.​

"I'm for it," she said. "But what is the reality of it?"

Damn you, reality!

Here's the hilarious and delicious twist. For too long, the cultural elite thought they were just like the financial elite. They're not. It was a symbiotic relationship of using. The cultural elite got to tag along to parties the financial elite paid for and the financial elite got to pretend they were cool by hanging out with the cultural elite.

The financial elite will always have terrific health care. The cultural elite? Well, there's always fresh blood waiting to be groomed after they die off.

Suckers.

 

[maxiep]

Re: NYTimes: Health Exchange Information Riddled with Errors

This is a website issue, not really an "Obamacare" issue. But all of the other problems listed I will not argue against. There have been a lot of bad outcomes.

I think viewed through the prism of history, the rollout of the website will be looked at as the Salad Days of Obamacare.

The mask is coming off of the legislation, and we're now seeing the ugly visage with the sharp teeth beneath.

 

[Eastoff]

Re: NYTimes: Health Exchange Information Riddled with Errors

I think viewed through the prism of history, the rollout of the website will be looked at as the Salad Days of Obamacare.

The mask is coming off of the legislation, and we're now seeing the ugly visage with the sharp teeth beneath.

I had to look up "Salad Days." Thanks for the education for the day.

 

[Denny Crane]

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