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MARIS61 said:
Then we lost it due to a pre-existing condition, then were able to get back on because of Obamacare
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riverman said:
I guess I don't understand how you get charged that much per month.....I had Moda for many years and it wasn't that much through the district...I'd shop around if I were you
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Nowhere to shop. No major insurers remain. They have all pulled up stakes and left us high and dry.

Originally we had MODA and LIFEWISE. They were always around $300 mo for full coverage before Obamacare. Now neither is even available no matter the price.
 
MARIS61 said:
And he has always said it, throughout his entire campaign. No change of position, this has always been his position.
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ok......I'm talking about recent admissions of backing off his campaign promises post campaign...in his transition meetings but hey......it made me feel much better
 
MARIS61 said:
Nowhere to shop. No major insurers remain. They have all pulled up stakes and left us high and dry.

Originally we had MODA and LIFEWISE. They were always around $300 mo for full coverage before Obamacare. Now neither is even available no matter the price.
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So in essence it's cheaper to pay the 5k fine for no insurance and use cash for medical services....terrible situation.
 
I heard a Trump voter saying (on NPR no less) that if he doesn't build the wall "he'll only be there 4 years." Now, here's hoping he's only there 4 years, but I just don't see his base deserting him for anything. This is a cult of personality.

(And he has the personality of a cunt.)
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I heard a Trump voter saying (on NPR no less) that if he doesn't build the wall "he'll only be there 4 years." Now, here's hoping he's only there 4 years, but I just don't see his base deserting him for anything. This is a cult of personality.

(And he has the personality of a cunt.)
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He's going to build the wall.
 
MARIS61 said:
no comprehensive plans are available through any insurer next year
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I can't buy insurance like I had before Obama care either, nothing even close. I don't know whether to be amused or pissed when I read the comment of people in this forum
and else where about how wonderful Obama is to bring them his marvelous creation. Their understanding of what they got and what we lost is simply depressing to observe.
 
Most large business still self insure. That is they take the risk for each individual and it costs them much less than buying insurance would because of the size of their pool of employees.
Then we have other pools of people, Military, VA, Medicare and more, that do not buy commercial insurance. This leave something less than 20 percent of the population actually buying insurance which must foot the bill for the additional cost of providing insurance to people with preexisting conditions. The large businesses don't have to absorb this new cost, they still give people medical exams before hiring them. The cost falls on a small subset of the population that is also strapped with the government law requiring them to purchase health insurance, the cost of which is blown sky high by the preexisting condition law.

If the government drops the law requiring people purchase insurance, almost none will unless they are subsidize because the cost is just too high. Well what then?
Just as we see today, Insurance companies dropping out of areas of the country or totally out of the health insurance business.

Trump isn't going to start a war with Congress over this, the Republicans already have plans to change a lot of the Obama care Law, but keep the Preexisting condition stuff, the popular stuff.
This isn't logical, but logical does not rule, getting reelected does.

Ha! It is even more humorous when you throw in the other big popular part of Obama Care, keeping the part of covering young people up to the age of 26 on dads plan. Thus another reduction in the pool of healthy needed, to support the very expensive preexisting condition pool.

Obama as totally fucked up a system that worked for the majority, and replaced it with a system that hardly works for most, serving only a minority and them only because they are subsicized.

I don't see an answer here other than get the friggin government out of the mix, Or totally run the system and god help us with that one.
 
MarAzul said:
I can't buy insurance like I had before Obama care either, nothing even close. I don't know whether to be amused or pissed when I read the comment of people in this forum
and else where about how wonderful Obama is to bring them his marvelous creation. Their understanding of what they got and what we lost is simply depressing to observe.
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From what I've read and researched just from this forum, I've learned more about the difference...that's always good. I cut way back on earning income as well as my wife so that we are eligible for affordable care and before Obamacare, my wife was uninsured, I was covered at work until just a year ago...I can always use the VA here for anything major. She can fly home and have anything major done in Taiwan...the cost of the trip is a fraction of the price here.
 
MarAzul said:
Most large business still self insure. That is they take the risk for each individual and it costs them much less than buying insurance would because of the size of their pool of employees.
Then we have other pools of people, Military, VA, Medicare and more, that do not buy commercial insurance. This leave something less than 20 percent of the population actually buying insurance which must foot the bill for the additional cost of providing insurance to people with preexisting conditions. The large businesses don't have to absorb this new cost, they still give people medical exams before hiring them. The cost falls on a small subset of the population that is also strapped with the government law requiring them to purchase health insurance, the cost of which is blown sky high by the preexisting condition law.

If the government drops the law requiring people purchase insurance, almost none will unless they are subsidize because the cost is just too high. Well what then?
Just as we see today, Insurance companies dropping out of areas of the country or totally out of the health insurance business.

Trump isn't going to start a war with Congress over this, the Republicans already have plans to change a lot of the Obama care Law, but keep the Preexisting condition stuff, the popular stuff.
This isn't logical, but logical does not rule, getting reelected does.

Ha! It is even more humorous when you throw in the other big popular part of Obama Care, keeping the part of covering young people up to the age of 26 on dads plan. Thus another reduction in the pool of healthy needed, to support the very expensive preexisting condition pool.

Obama as totally fucked up a system that worked for the majority, and replaced it with a system that hardly works for most, serving only a minority and them only because they are subsicized.

I don't see an answer here other than get the friggin government out of the mix, Or totally run the system and god help us with that one.
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I think we'll start to see private insurance coops start to pop up.....gated community health care programs....gated community clinics If small business folk all have this problem, collectively maybe there's an alternative ....it's Sunday...I need a power nap.....I think it's always best to be amused around here
 
riverman said:
but he said some of it will be fenced now.....and he's gone from 18 million deportations to 2 million, maybe 3 according to his interview
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The agenda for his first 100 days includes the wall. Biggest estimate to build it is $25B.

It is what it is...
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-trump-election-is-not-legitimate-poll-finds/

The Post-ABC poll finds 74 percent of all Americans say they accept the election of Trump as legitimate while 18 percent do not. That result parallels a Post-ABC Tracking Poll just before the election, which found 79 percent of likely voters saying they were prepared to accept the outcome of the election regardless of who they support.

A 58 percent majority of Clinton supporters say they accept Trump’s election, while 33 percent do not. Questions about Trump’s victory are passionate — 27 percent of Clinton supporters feel “strongly” he did not win legitimately.
 
Denny Crane said:
There are lots of ways to make them pay. It remains to be seen how.

A tarrif on imports from Mexico might be enough.
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so the price of everything from mexico will go up. and americans will end up paying for it.
 
im not sure how many people will be pissed when their land gets siezed for this wall, probably a few though.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
im not sure how many people will be pissed when their land gets siezed for this wall, probably a few though.
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The railroad did that on a massive scale making the push west...I knew a rancher with thousands of acres that had to allow the railroad to run track on his property about 100 yards from his front door....the border is pretty much a tumbleweed rock pile so I'd think the biggest effect would be on watersheds
 
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