...O/T...I am so sick of this type thing;

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Only a racist would say black people were happy picking cotton, drinking from separate fountains, sitting in the back of the bus, and getting their food at the rear entrances of restaurants.
 
after hearing about this and reading the opinions of people on the subject, i've come up with two very obvious conclusions: 1) there's some guy named Phil who has something to do with ducks, and 2) 95% of people have no idea what the First Amendment actually says.
 
Rick2583 said:
Phil Robertson is the latest in a long lineup of politically incorrect targets of the left's sensitivity mob. The gay & lesbian alliance against defamation (GLAAD) gangsta's won't stop until both the cultural & legal enforcement of their agenda are the norm.

Phil Robertson was suspended for expressing his biblical views. Asked (I repeat ASKED) what he viewed as sinful, Robertson drew on the condemnation of sexual immorality in Corinthians 6:9, citing "adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, and the swindlers. They won't inherit the kingdom of God".


Damn, many people to include myself are in huge trouble given the message presented in Corinthians 6:9. My question would be why Robertson was asked that question: had it been me I would have said it is not any of ones business. I will admit that I get really whacked over those who are allegedly "outside of the so called norm" that get beyond offended when someone does make a comment that they don't like. I used to work with a woman who flaunted her sexuality and dog double dared any of us bigots to make comment,
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...^^^yup, and pretty much all religions have similar sort or references to the same "sins".
 
I have a great solution to all of this, going forward ALL interviewers should start off before asking a question by saying, "Sir/Mam, I'm about to ask you a question BUT........if your answer/opinion is going to be considered insensitive, offensive or controversial in anyway to anyone I'd rather you just lie".
 
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...^^^yeah, you never know when "The Word Police" is listening.
 
Denny Crane said:
Only a racist would say black people were happy picking cotton, drinking from separate fountains, sitting in the back of the bus, and getting their food at the rear entrances of restaurants.
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who said anything about picking cotton or drinking from separate fountains or sitting on the back of the bus or getting their food at the rear entrances of restaurants???? Not Phil so don't put words or ideas in his mouth
 
Hammerojustice said:
who said anything about picking cotton or drinking from separate fountains or sitting on the back of the bus or getting their food at the rear entrances of restaurants???? Not Phil so don't put words or ideas in his mouth
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I read the entire response & I didn't see that either. Did I miss something?
 
Robertson conjures a whimsically rosy image of the old South, remembering working alongside African Americans in the cotton fields: "They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!. . . Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

See the quotes? That means he said it.
 
http://www.eurweb.com/2013/12/ae-pu...nishment-after-racist-and-homophobic-remarks/

In the article, Robertson compared homosexuality to bestiality, and said that during his Louisiana childhood, he picked cotton with African-Americans before “entitlements” and “welfare” came along, and never saw “the mistreatment of any black person. Not once.”

“Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers,” he told the magazine. “I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field…. They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!… Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”
 
Denny Crane said:
Robertson conjures a whimsically rosy image of the old South, remembering working alongside African Americans in the cotton fields: "They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!. . . Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

See the quotes? That means he said it.
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Denny Crane said:
http://www.eurweb.com/2013/12/ae-pu...nishment-after-racist-and-homophobic-remarks/

In the article, Robertson compared homosexuality to bestiality, and said that during his Louisiana childhood, he picked cotton with African-Americans before “entitlements” and “welfare” came along, and never saw “the mistreatment of any black person. Not once.”

“Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers,” he told the magazine. “I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field…. They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!… Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”
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and how does any of that make him a racist??? it doesn't, pure and simple.

And that statement "Robertson conjures a whimsically rosy image of the old South, remembering working alongside African Americans in the cotton fields" is something the article wrote, not something he said... and even if he said it, he never said anywhere that he thinks anyone of any race or creed should be a slave or the back of the bus or anything like that. He was just saying that people during the pre-entitlement era (that entitlement bullshit that happens now) were happier, not happy about everything, but happier as a whole. and he's right. So, sorry, he isn't a racist.
 
Rick2583 said:
I read the entire response & I didn't see that either. Did I miss something?
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No, you didn't. you didn't miss anything because he isn't a racist and mentioned nothing about drinking from separate fountains, sitting on the back of the bus, getting their food from the rear entrances of restaurants... He said people were happier back then, that was it. Are things better now, yeah, and I'm sure he would agree that some things are better... but people are NOT happier now in this entitlement bullshit era... not even close
 
Pre entitlement was segregated schools, separate water fountains, back of the bus, can't eat in the restaurants with white folk times.

He said the black people were happy with that.

What's common about both the bigoted statement about gays and the racist statement about black people is they're both anti civil rights.
 
Denny Crane said:
Pre entitlement was segregated schools, separate water fountains, back of the bus, can't eat in the restaurants with white folk times.

He said the black people were happy with that.

What's common about both the bigoted statement about gays and the racist statement about black people is they're both anti civil rights.
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Where did he say black people were happy with THAT? he said they were happy then, not that he was happy with those specific things.
 
Furthermore, the article that you referenced specifically said "A&E says it did not receive any complaints regarding his comments about African Americans" so where's the issue???
 
Hammerojustice said:
Where did he say black people were happy with THAT? he said they were happy then, not that he was happy with those specific things.
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They were so happy they were singing!

Just wow.

Indefensible.
 
Denny Crane said:
They were so happy they were singing!

Just wow.

Indefensible.
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indefensible how? he saw them singing... what is wrong with that???? seriously? he also said he never saw one of them complain... if that is what he saw, that is what he saw... get over yourself already
 
Hammerojustice said:
indefensible how? he saw them singing... what is wrong with that???? seriously? he also said he never saw one of them complain... if that is what he saw, that is what he saw... get over yourself already
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He obviously offended nobody.

He is indefensible.
 
...are you going to address this or not? ;

...lmao...this has now gone way past laughable.

...in post #46 above, you stated "If you think "bigot" has some negative connotation, feel free to explain why."

...now 2 posts later you turn around and contradict your self by saying "He's a racist and a bigot. Not something I'd be proud of or defend"




...It's obvious that even you don't know what you mean.
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...maybe the "bold font" will help and won't "confuse you".
 
yankeesince59 said:
...are you going to address this or not? ;



...maybe the "bold font" will help and won't "confuse you".
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His bigotry is a statement of fact. Fits the definition to a "T".

If YOU find him being a bigot or the word bigot to have some negative connotation, then you are accepting that he's very wrong. And he is.

I personally don't find the word has negative connotation. It's when you combine bigotry with some kind of hurtful action, like telling your 9M+ audience (or whatever it is) that homosexuality is akin to bestiality, that there's a problem.

The racist things he said proves he's indefensible.
 
ok... let's look at the comments item by item then, shall we?

regarding race
"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once." ok... that isn't a racist statement...

"Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash." ok... he said he worked along side of them, not that he was better than them or that there was anything wrong with what they were doing... how is this racist? He even displayed that he himself was a lower class than the typical white family as he was white trash. He didn't say he was better or worse than any African Americans, just that he was with them as he was white trash...

"We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy." how is this racist? it isn't. he is just saying they were singing and happy... that is it. it isn't racist!

"I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!..." again, how is this racist? he, going off his personal experience said he never saw one of them complain... and he was working in the fields with them... so how is this racist? it isn't...

"Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues." ok, so how is this racist? it isn't... he is saying they were godly, they were happy, no one was singing the blues. nothing wrong with that.

So how was any of what he said, racist???? how?

He never mentioned Jim Crow laws or that they were happier because the laws were or weren't there. He was talking about how this entitlement bullshit is making people less happy. How can anyone not see that?
 
Denny Crane said:
His bigotry is a statement of fact. Fits the definition to a "T".

If YOU find him being a bigot or the word bigot to have some negative connotation, then you are accepting that he's very wrong. And he is.

I personally don't find the word has negative connotation. It's when you combine bigotry with some kind of hurtful action, like telling your 9M+ audience (or whatever it is) that homosexuality is akin to bestiality, that there's a problem.

The racist things he said proves he's indefensible.
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Denny seriously with all due respect you have to show me where Robertson said that blacks were happy with riding in the back of buses, drinking from seperate water fountains & getting there food from the rear of resturants. I mean all he said was that in the cotton fields they were singing & that they were happy. And that is what he perceived from what he personally saw. Please you'll have to show me ANYWHERE where he said those other things. I'll wait.
 
Rick2583 said:
Denny seriously with all due respect you have to show me where Robertson said that blacks were happy with riding in the back of buses, drinking from seperate water fountains & getting there food from the rear of resturants. I mean all he said was that in the cotton fields they were singing & that they were happy. And that is what he perceived from what he personally saw. Please you'll have to show me ANYWHERE where he said those other things. I'll wait.
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Exactly... and he won't be able to show you those things because they were never said (or implied) anywhere
 
Rick2583 said:
Denny seriously with all due respect you have to show me where Robertson said that blacks were happy with riding in the back of buses, drinking from seperate water fountains & getting there food from the rear of resturants. I mean all he said was that in the cotton fields they were singing & that they were happy. And that is what he perceived from what he personally saw. Please you'll have to show me ANYWHERE where he said those other things. I'll wait.
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Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.

No, they were not happy. The guy is painting some rosy picture of the south that somehow it was OK the way it was. It wasn't.

If he had said, "I wish it were like it was in 1850 for black people in the South, they were happy then" you would be defending him because he didn't outright say slavery.

Indefensible.
 
Denny Crane said:
His bigotry is a statement of fact. Fits the definition to a "T".

If YOU find him being a bigot or the word bigot to have some negative connotation, then you are accepting that he's very wrong. And he is.

I personally don't find the word has negative connotation. It's when you combine bigotry with some kind of hurtful action, like telling your 9M+ audience (or whatever it is) that homosexuality is akin to bestiality, that there's a problem.

The racist things he said proves he's indefensible.
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...that does not in any way address your contradiction;

1. you first sad; "If you think "bigot" has some negative connotation, feel free to explain why."

2. you then said "He's a racist and a bigot. Not something I'd be proud of or defend"



...which is it?...keep tap dancing.
 
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