Obama - Disliked by both left and right

[Stevenson]

As a liberal who voted for Obama and had high hopes, I am incredibly disappointed. He could have been bolder, stronger to his liberal roots. But he's played the conservative middleman bipartisan guy... except

No one on the right is there to play or work with. The right cant stand him.

So where did he go wrong? Too liberal, too conservative? I say he should have taken Mitch McConnel at his word- that his Number 1 goal was to defeat Obama - (as unpatriotic as it gets in my book) and gone Big left. Stand for something.

Why do we all dislike what he has done - yet for different reasons?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

all style, no substance.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

either that or everyone is racist!

 

[julius]

no spine. he bent over backwards to work with other people, and in the process went away from the core group of people who got him elected. Plus, his PR people and his response to how things are happening, is pathetic.

If the Republicans can get a decent candidate to run for President and not have a fucking whackjob running instead (or a super conservative), he probably won't be re-elected.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Early on, he was a bully. He thumbed his nose at the right and dealt punitively as he pleased. When the right took control of the House, he seemed to be lost with respect to compromise and leadership.

 

[julius]

Early on, he was a bully. He thumbed his nose at the right and dealt punitively as he pleased. When the right took control of the House, he seemed to be lost with respect to compromise and leadership.

He was a bully? you mean how he caved on his health care plan and then did pretty much nothing else?

and he was doing what all presidents do, esp when they have "control" of senate and house. And he didn't accomplish shit during that time either.

 

[MrJayremmie]

Early on, he was a bully

Snob maybe... bully? WTF?

Anyway, I've been against Obama since his troop surge in Afghanistan. But noone really represents me, and there are few that are even close. So I guess I will stick to supporting those candidates.

The Right, Left, and Middle all voted for Obama because they thought it gave us the best shot at changing a shitty political system. He didn't do it, its the same.

The problem is, who do you vote in now? Its not going to go back to the status quo Republican. Most don't want Obama again. So wtf?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

The problem is, who do you vote in now? Its not going to go back to the status quo Republican. Most don't want Obama again. So wtf?

I think this is the question of the century. Now that Obama has placed the final nail in the coffin, does he get to lower the coffin and throw dirt on it for 4 more years, or back to the same old politics as usual with the GOP?

I firmly think that we have to try something radical. It may hurt for a while, but when medicine is required to survive it isn't usually pleasant. But in the end it was necessary and worth it. And even if it doesn't work, I'd rather try a new mistake than the same old one again and again.

I'm willing to look left or right. As an example only, maybe the Tea Party isn't as bad as lefty sheep make them out to be. And maybe there's some ideas on the left the righty sheep should listen to. We need a true leader, but I don't currently see any.

 

[huevonkiller]

Snob maybe... bully? WTF?

Anyway, I've been against Obama since his troop surge in Afghanistan. But noone really represents me, and there are few that are even close. So I guess I will stick to supporting those candidates.

The Right, Left, and Middle all voted for Obama because they thought it gave us the best shot at changing a shitty political system. He didn't do it, its the same.

The problem is, who do you vote in now? Its not going to go back to the status quo Republican. Most don't want Obama again. So wtf?

He's a Bully and a punk. He wasted trillions of dollars.

You definitely supported our bankruptcy. Regardless of who you thought Obama was.

 

[Natebishop3]

Want to know what it all boils down to? Most Democrats refuse to vote for a Republican, and most Republicans will be split between whichever lame duck the GOP throws up and a third or fourth party candidate. Obama will get his second term and he will continue to play golf, take vacations, and announce his selections for March Madness. Case closed.

 

[barfo]

Want to know what it all boils down to? Most Democrats refuse to vote for a Republican, and most Republicans will be split between whichever lame duck the GOP throws up and a third or fourth party candidate. Obama will get his second term and he will continue to play golf, take vacations, and announce his selections for March Madness. Case closed.

Sounds good!

barfo

 

[Natebishop3]

Sounds good!

barfo

Someone has to man the wheel as the ship slowly sinks beneath the waves of commerce!

 

[barfo]

Someone has to man the wheel as the ship slowly sinks beneath the waves of commerce!

Let's get BrianFromWA, then. He's got experience with slipping beneath the waves, and he's already in DC.

barfo

 

[Natebishop3]

Let's get BrianFromWA, then. He's got experience with slipping beneath the waves, and he's already in DC.

barfo

Nobody would ever vote for a Seaman.

 

[huevonkiller]

Florida is pretty important, if Rubio is VP that could help.

 

[Natebishop3]

Florida is pretty important, if Rubio is VP that could help.

He hasn't even played a game in the NBA and you already want to make him VP???

 

[huevonkiller]

He hasn't even played a game in the NBA and you already want to make him VP???

He just needs to take some English classes first, then we're set.

 

[Natebishop3]

He just needs to take some English classes first, then we're set.

You're expecting too much from the VP. He doesn't need to speak, in fact it's better if he doesn't speak altogether. He just needs to stand there and not question anything whatsoever.

 

[jlprk]

no spine. he bent over backwards to work with other people, and in the process went away from the core group of people who got him elected. Plus, his PR people and his response to how things are happening, is pathetic.

Early on, he was a bully. He thumbed his nose at the right and dealt punitively as he pleased. When the right took control of the House, he seemed to be lost with respect to compromise and leadership.

Those two opinions are opposites. The former one is true. If only the latter one were true. He's a milk-toast who was given a mandate to reverse the Bush years and did not try because he agrees with the Bush years.

If the Republicans can get a decent candidate to run for President and not have a fucking whackjob running instead (or a super conservative), he probably won't be re-elected

But they all are whackjobs except Huntsman and Romney, which is what makes those two unpopular with Republican voters. The Republican nominee will either be a whackjob and lose because of no crossover vote, or a non-whackjob who loses because Republicans will sit it out. Obama's results are no different from a Republican president, so I hope he loses, but he will be re-elected.

 

[MrJayremmie]

He's a Bully and a punk. He wasted trillions of dollars.

You definitely supported our bankruptcy. Regardless of who you thought Obama was.

Didn't you say you voted for Obama?

 

[julius]

Want to know what it all boils down to? Most Democrats refuse to vote for a Republican, and most Republicans will be split between whichever lame duck the GOP throws up and a third or fourth party candidate. Obama will get his second term and he will continue to play golf, take vacations, and announce his selections for March Madness. Case closed.

funny how people complain about him vacationing as much as he has, considering it's still far less then Bush's vacations.

If you don't wnt people to bring up Bush, don't bring up subjects that Bush himself excelled in or was on par with what you accuse Obama of doing.

 

[Natebishop3]

funny how people complain about him vacationing as much as he has, considering it's still far less then Bush's vacations.

If you don't wnt people to bring up Bush, don't bring up subjects that Bush himself excelled in or was on par with what you accuse Obama of doing.

Bring up Bush all you want! I didn't vote for his ass either

 

[barfo]

Bring up Bush all you want! I didn't vote for his ass either

You didn't vote for Cheney?

barfo

 

[julius]

Bring up Bush all you want! I didn't vote for his ass either

I don't follow the logic that because someone didn't vote for someone, doesn't mean others can't be critical of their support of said persons actions.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I'd like to see barfo as president.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't follow the logic that because someone didn't vote for someone, doesn't mean others can't be critical of their support of said persons actions.

I never supported Bush.

 

[julius]

I never supported Bush.

so for the 8 years he was in office, you were complaining about him, and posting on message boards griping about how bad he was as a president?

 

[Natebishop3]

so for the 8 years he was in office, you were complaining about him, and posting on message boards griping about how bad he was as a president?

Nah... I didn't really post on forums about politics honestly. I just bitched to my family and friends

I didn't even touch the OT forum at BBB.net or BBF.com. I only started posting over here in this OT Forum in the last couple years.

 

[julius]

Nah... I didn't really post on forums about politics honestly. I just bitched to my family and friends

I didn't even touch the OT forum at BBB.net or BBF.com. I only started posting over here in this OT Forum in the last couple years.

well what the hell is wrong with you!?

 

[Natebishop3]

In all honesty, I didn't like Bush, but for some reason I found myself as the devils advocate because I felt like there was some major hypocrisy coming from the left. I'm sure there's hypocrisy coming from the right too, but it's the other side that irritated me. What can I say, I lean more to the right than the left, but I'm not a right winger.