Oddest thing a family member of yours believes

[magnifier661]

Well I read your post then her post then your post.

I don't get it.

It didn't seem like a joke until sly pointed it out.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

man this was kind of a funny thread then it got all MRA up in here

 

[crowTrobot]

My mother is a staunch YEC who also believes UFOs and aliens are real and originate from inside the Earth. Top that combo.

 

[crowTrobot]

man this was kind of a funny thread then it got all MRA up in here

From a psychological perspective Karma is a pretty interesting topic. Lots of atheist/agnostic/skeptic types for whatever reason also seem unexplainably quick to endorse a metaphysical Karmic connection of some type when the subject comes up. It's weird.

 

[crowTrobot]

Yes you can! Why? Cause I do!

you believe God controls all events and is the arbiter and implementer of the results of our actions. that is not karma. karma by definition is something that just happens on autopilot.

 

[Natebishop3]

From a psychological perspective Karma is a pretty interesting topic. Lots of atheist/agnostic/skeptic types for whatever reason also seem unexplainably quick to endorse a metaphysical Karmic connection of some type when the subject comes up. It's weird.

I think it's because we like to hope that bad people get what they deserve. I attribute this to movies, and cartoons, and everything else that Hollywood pumps out. The villain isn't supposed to win, and yet bad people succeed all the time.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

My aunt thinks weed is the only key to happiness for everyone and we just don't know it yet. When she is sober she is the biggest bitch you'll meet.

 

[crowTrobot]

I think it's because we like to hope that bad people get what they deserve. I attribute this to movies, and cartoons, and everything else that Hollywood pumps out. The villain isn't supposed to win, and yet bad people succeed all the time.

I think a lot of them just don't fully consider the implications - if what they are claiming about action and consequence might require a metaphysical connection to work in the real world.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

man this was kind of a funny thread then it got all MRA up in here

Booo equality

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[magnifier661]

you believe God controls all events and is the arbiter and implementer of the results of our actions. that is not karma. karma by definition is something that just happens on autopilot.

No I don't and most Christians don't. Many Christians believe that we have our own free will. Our actions determine our fate.

God is the creator and the judge.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

My mother is a staunch YEC who also believes UFOs and aliens are real and originate from inside the Earth. Top that combo.

That's pretty good!

Not in the same league, but my dad had us prepare for Y2K... like Textured Vegetable Protein in the pantry and a new shotgun under the bed prepared. He also saw a wedge UFO.

I personally believe I was caught in a time vortex while driving in Northern California.

 

[jlprk]

I don't believe in Karma, but I do believe in the Evil Eye. The Evil Eye is watching you.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I had no idea Sly knew so much about what you can do.
I'd hate to check with him on what goes through my process.

I'm just telling you like it is. It's like saying you believe in Obama but you aren't a Communist Muslim. We all know, everyone who believes in Obama is a Communist Muslim.

 

[magnifier661]

I don't believe in Karma, but I do believe in the Evil Eye. The Evil Eye is watching you.

Oh scary

 

[jlprk]

Before my father's strange death, he brought me up on the Evil Eye. As a tiny tot, I learned nursery rhymes from him. In between our joyous singing, he would fill the gaps with lessons about the Evil Eye.

When I hurt myself, he told me the Evil Eye had decided that I deserved it. As time passed, the Evil Eye enlarged in my heart until it consumed me. I realized that it watches all that we do and exacts retribution. Thus I pass unto you what my father passed to me from his father, and forever before on up the chain of ancestors, which are common between you and me if we look back far enough: Beware, the Evil Eye.

 

[crandc]

Thank you boys for making my point. And for telling me what I really think which of course women are too stupid to know until we get it mansplained to us.

 

[magnifier661]

Thank you boys for making my point. And for telling me what I really think which of course women are too stupid to know until we get it mansplained to us.

Just giving you the other angle. Are you denying woman don't do that?

 

[Eastoff]

It was my understanding that Buddhism isn't really a religion, at least not in the same regard as Christianity. I took a geography of religion class and from what I read, I got the impression that Buddhism is a way of life. Later on it was converted into a religion, and a means of making money.

I think a lot of people believe in the principle of karma, but not necessarily the specific definition of it. You don't have to be Buddhist to believe that doing something bad will bring back bad things upon you.

Well some sects of Buddhism are most definitely a religion, the Tibetan variety for one. They have a lot of supernatural stuff in there.

 

[Eastoff]

I personally believe I was caught in a time vortex while driving in Northern California.

Seeya later, Navigator! HUHUH!

 

[Eastoff]

YOU RANG?!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Thank you boys for making my point. And for telling me what I really think which of course women are too stupid to know until we get it mansplained to us.

What a shock--crandc making a gender issue out of something that has nothing to do with gender.

 

[crowTrobot]

No I don't and most Christians don't. Many Christians believe that we have our own free will. Our actions determine our fate.

you believe god determines your fate based on your actions. no "karma" involved.

karma by standard definitions intrinsically implies the objective existence of morality apart from the will of god. this is overtly unbiblical.

there is no way belief in karma can logically fit with Christianity, unless you want to completely redefine what everyone generally means by the terms. but then again you do that with atheism so that would be nothing new.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Thank you boys for making my point. And for telling me what I really think which of course women are too stupid to know until we get it mansplained to us.

Just curious why you didn't feel bad for guys that get raped too is all.

 

[magnifier661]

you believe god determines your fate based on your actions. no "karma" involved.

karma by standard definitions intrinsically implies the objective existence of morality apart from the will of god. this is overtly unbiblical.

there is no way belief in karma can logically fit with Christianity, unless you want to completely redefine what everyone generally means by the terms. but then again you do that with atheism so that would be nothing new.

Funny how you twisted the response to your original response. Let's get back to topic shall we?

You said I can't believe in "karma" because god controls us. Sorry, that is far from biblical; when God said we have our own free will. No control there.

As far as the karma debate; I had a different idea and used the word in tongue and cheek; "see reply to sly". So my idea of karma is different.

Then you say even atheists believe in karma to some extent. Funny how it's compatible to your ideas; but damn any other ideology in this regard.

Seems you just pick and choose what suits you. Kinda like saying you are an agnostic atheist

 

[magnifier661]

What a shock--crandc making a gender issue out of something that has nothing to do with gender.

For someone that fights for equality; she has a funny way of expressing it

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Funny how you twisted the response to your original response. Let's get back to topic shall we?

You said I can't believe in "karma" because god controls us. Sorry, that is far from biblical; when God said we have our own free will. No control there.

As far as the karma debate; I had a different idea and used the word in tongue and cheek; "see reply to sly". So my idea of karma is different.

Then you say even atheists believe in karma to some extent. Funny how it's compatible to your ideas; but damn any other ideology in this regard.

Seems you just pick and choose what suits you. Kinda like saying you are an agnostic atheist

You might be onto something here, a type of Karma for Christians. You can't call it Karma, why not Magma!

 

[magnifier661]

You might be onto something here, a type of Karma for Christians. You can't call it Karma, why not Magma!

Okay so I won't use karma; but Christians used something similar. There have been many scripture that focused on doing things to others as you want done to you. Scripture that you receive blessings and rewards in heaven; by actions you have done on earth.

Maybe the end all reward isn't compatible; but the basic message is the same.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Okay so I won't use karma; but Christians used something similar. There have been many scripture that focused on doing things to others as you want done to you. Scripture that you receive blessings and rewards in heaven; by actions you have done on earth.

Maybe the end all reward isn't compatible; but the basic message is the same.

I was teasing/joking with you. It was a play on your moniker. Mags + Karma = Magma.

 

[magnifier661]

I was teasing/joking with you. It was a play on your moniker. Mags + Karma = Magma.

I know that; but I ignored it.

Still believe in Christian karma!

 

[crowTrobot]

You said I can't believe in "karma" because god controls us.

no I did not. I said (according to the bible) GOD is the arbiter and executioner of the outcome of our choices. yes we have free will, but it is god that is judging our actions and deciding outcomes, not "karma" (unless you want to rename the "will of god" karma, which is stretching the definition of karma too thin to be meaningful.)

the whole point of karma in eastern religions is that morality (good and evil, right and wrong) objectively exists whether god does or not. in other words there objectively exists a standard APART from the will of god against which our actions are judged. this pretty much contradicts the bible.

Then you say even atheists believe in karma to some extent. Funny how it's compatible to your ideas; but damn any other ideology in this regard.

you completely misunderstood that post. my point was it is psychologically interesting that SOME skeptic/atheist types (not me) seem to want to cling to the notion of a metaphysical type of karma even though it is logically NOT compatible with how they would otherwise approach the world. I was calling them out.

Kinda like saying you are an agnostic atheist

I am one or both varying widely depending on your definition of god. that shouldn't be hard to understand.