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How upset would you be if Olshey went and picked up a late first round pick to get Withey as a complement to Leonard?

I would.

There is no doubt that Withey can block shots, but he has similar strength issues to Leonard, both have weak lower body strength, and he's already 23 years old. I also worry about his footspeed in the pnr. He wasn't asked to hedge on picks much at Kansas and with def. 3 seconds, he won't be able to lay back in the paint as much as he did in college.
 
Probably not overly. My issue, which has been twisted by many here several times has always been IN THE LOTTERY. I'd rather them not do that though

It's funny, I wasn't really pleased with Leonard when we picked him at 11, but if you look at the draft there isn't much that excites me after 11 anyway.

Lamb wouldn't have been a bad pick.

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Terrence Jones

It's too bad Drummond didn't drop two more spots :sigh:
 
It's funny, I wasn't really pleased with Leonard when we picked him at 11, but if you look at the draft there isn't much that excites me after 11 anyway.

Lamb wouldn't have been a bad pick.

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Terrence Jones

It's too bad Drummond didn't drop two more spots :sigh:

Henson is another guy
 
It's funny, I wasn't really pleased with Leonard when we picked him at 11, but if you look at the draft there isn't much that excites me after 11 anyway.

Lamb wouldn't have been a bad pick.

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Terrence Jones

I was the same way. I wanted a SG and would have preferred Lamb at 11. But Leonard has looked better than I expected offensively. Defensively as we all know he has a long ways to go, but I really think his weaknesses are coach-able. Hopefully they don't fuck up his knees building up his lower body strength.

And I also think there can be a case made that Barton could end up as good as Lamb.
 
How would you guys feel about a Oladipo and Dieng draft?
 
Oladipo would be huge. Put him with Lillard and we would have one of the best young backcourts in the league.

I started out wanting Shabazz on the team more, but the more i hear about Oladipo, the more i want him to drop to them instead.
 
I started out wanting Shabazz on the team more, but the more i hear about Oladipo, the more i want him to drop to them instead.

It doesn't look like he'll even be around at 10 (if we get it). We'd have to move up to take him, and I don't think that's in the cards.

Draftexpress has him at #4
NBAdraft.net has him at #8
Hoopsworld has him at #6
 
How would you guys feel about a Oladipo and Dieng draft?

Assuming we're just buying the 1st round pick to get Dieng, I would be absolutely thrilled by that. I would be pumped going into next season with a lineup that looked like:

Lillard/Maynor
Matthews/Oladipo/Barton
Batum/Claver
Aldridge/Freeland
Leonard/Dieng
 
I like both as well. Even if we get the 10th pick, it looks like we'll need to trade up to 8 or 9 to get Oladipo. Don't see either detriot or minny passing up on him if he's there.

10th plus who? Maybe the highest of our 2nd rounders would be enough.
 
Dieng's alright. I'm just afraid he has no upside. With the 10th pick I'd rather go with a guy with more upside.
 
I like both as well. Even if we get the 10th pick, it looks like we'll need to trade up to 8 or 9 to get Oladipo. Don't see either detriot or minny passing up on him if he's there.

10th plus who? Maybe the highest of our 2nd rounders would be enough.

Good chance he may go as high as #4 or #5.
 
Does anyone know what direction Isaiah Austin has been leaning in? I haven't heard anything from his camp yet. I would really like to see him get another year or two of NCAA experience before declaring though.
 
If I remember correctly last year our top 10-12 choices changed around a lot between the end of the NBA season and the actual draft. It will be interesting to see who emerges and who falls in the next 60 days after the pre draft camps and individual workouts occur. I think #10 will be attractive to either the Blazers or a trading partner. We just need about 2-3 more players to impress everyone.
 
Good move for Austin. Bad move for Payne, dumb move for Roberson.
 
Was it already posted that Doug McDermott will return to Creighton for his senior season? That one surprised me a little bit.
 
Latest Draft Express mock has us taking Shabazz Mohammad in the 1st and Myck Kabongo in the 2nd.. I think I'd be able to cope with that.
 
Ray McCallum entered the draft too. I'd love for us to use a 2nd rounder on him.
 
Trying to figure out which second round picks will pan out is one of my favorite things about the draft.
 
Good move for Austin. Bad move for Payne, dumb move for Roberson.

I think it was a great move for Payne. There's no way he's ready for the pro's, and so far he's improved his game significantly every season he's been in college. Not to mention, Payne came out of his district's special education program and is now actually going to get his degree... the guy's apparently worked his ass off in the classroom, to the point where he was an All-Academic Big Ten member.
 
I think Eamonn Brennan is a hack of a journalist in every sense of the word, but he's actually right on the money about Payne and why coming back will do him some good, and why we should expect a lot more improvement from him this season -

Payne, however, is a senior. After three years, why should we expect more?

Because it's clear Payne is still scratching the surface of immense talent. Take his 3-point shooting, for instance. After two years of never, ever shooting 3s -- and a freshman season in which the notion of Payne shooting the ball from anywhere but the low block would have been a laughable proposition -- Payne suddenly added a long-range shot to his arsenal midway through last season. It happened Jan. 27 at Indiana, when Payne went 3 of 4 from three, attempting and making as many 3s in one evening as he had all season. It wasn't a fluke. Payne shot 3s frequently in MSU's final 15 games, finishing the year 16-of-42. His long-range work was a sudden, crucial wrinkle -- a totally new and workable way for the Spartans to attack. And it almost seemed impromptu.

Likewise, Payne was a better ballhandler and passer than at any point in his career, but he could still get better at both. He is a more versatile interior scorer than in the past, when he served as a raw shot-blocker, rebounder and rim-runner, but he could still add a go-to move over both shoulders in the post.

But it's clear all of these things are on development curves, and that unlike some college juniors and seniors, Payne is nowhere near close to fully formed as a player.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask...84008/paynes-return-could-make-spartans-elite

I haven't seen a MSU player improve as much as he has in his three years at State so far. Granted, he was rated as a top 20 recruit by both Rivals and Scout out of high school, a lot of those rankings were based on his potential. He dominated the high school competition with his size and athleticism, but he was raw as hell. Every year he's turned a new weakness into a strength, and if he can continue that trend going into his senior season, he's got lottery potential rather than late first/early second potential.
 
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Apologies for the triple post, but I also wanted to throw a name out there that I don't think I've really heard anyone mention so far -

Andrew Smith, 6'11" C, Butler

His numbers don't look that great, but after watching a lot of him over the years, he looks "servicable" to me as an end-of-the-bench center. I mean, there are bigger stiffs in the league. He looks every bit of 6'11", looks like he has a pretty decent wingspan, and he's actually got a good shooting touch. I'm not saying the guy should be in talks for a first round pick or anything, but in the mid-to-late 2nd round range, I think it's odd that he's being almost completely glossed over. He's skinny, not a great rebounder, etc., but in a draft like this, that sort of size and experience should at least warrant a look from most teams.
 
Now I'm quadruple posting, but fuck it, no one seems to have any opinions about these things regarding the draft...

Has anyone actually seen Tony Mitchell (from North Texas, not the one from Alabama)? I've seem bits and pieces of him, but I could never bring myself to watch more than a minute or two of a North Texas game.

Reading the scouting reports for him, the negatives seem to outweigh the positives. The highlights on YouTube also seem pretty commonplace for a lot of second round prospects that don't have the same baggage.

So I'm thinking there's got to be something more to his game that has him projected as a solid first rounder by most mock drafts. The guys who get paid to evaluate this talent have hopefully watched him and evaluated him as a first rounder for a reason. Could anyone who's actually seen him play consistently speak to his talent, or does someone who's seen him play consistently even exist?

It's bugging me, because he's more of a mystery than a lot of international prospects, and I spent most of my time last year watching college basketball.
 
Now I'm quadruple posting, but fuck it, no one seems to have any opinions about these things regarding the draft...

Has anyone actually seen Tony Mitchell (from North Texas, not the one from Alabama)? I've seem bits and pieces of him, but I could never bring myself to watch more than a minute or two of a North Texas game.

Reading the scouting reports for him, the negatives seem to outweigh the positives. The highlights on YouTube also seem pretty commonplace for a lot of second round prospects that don't have the same baggage.

So I'm thinking there's got to be something more to his game that has him projected as a solid first rounder by most mock drafts. The guys who get paid to evaluate this talent have hopefully watched him and evaluated him as a first rounder for a reason. Could anyone who's actually seen him play consistently speak to his talent, or does someone who's seen him play consistently even exist?

It's bugging me, because he's more of a mystery than a lot of international prospects, and I spent most of my time last year watching college basketball.

I watched a game or 2 of his last year and came away impressed by his athleticism. He's a bit of tweener though in the sense that he's a face up 4 that thinks he can become a 3.

Had a great freshman year statistically but he's regressed in a lot of areas as his game has drifted further out to the perimeter.
 
Would love McCollum as he'd be a fun to watch with Lillard, but the fit isn't great. At this point, I'm alright with trading down for either Dieng or Adams and picking up some vet depth. Intrigued by the bucks 15th pick and would be fine with something like the 10th for their pick plus either Udoh or Ayon.

For second round guys I's like to see them package 39 and 40 for an early 2nd / late first and grab Myck Kabongo or Nate Wolters.

Trevor Mbakwe isn't even on DX 's latest mock draft, but I'd love to get him with the 45th.
 

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