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Rastapopoulos said:
I wonder if this makes Dallas more likely to sell their pick. Actually, not just them: other teams might also have been planning to draft and stash to keep cap space open.
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I had the same thoughts . . . with Blazers being one of the teams to possible draft and stash (so they can more cap space to get FA this tear) and they have no draft pick next year
 
blue9 said:
Which is precisely why I think we'd be much better served keeping the #10 and drafting Shabazz, and then signing someone like Kaman/Dalembert/Pachulia, rather than trading the #10 for Gortat.
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How 'bout we don't do either?
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
I had the same thoughts . . . with Blazers being one of the teams to possible draft and stash (so they can more cap space to get FA this tear) and they have no draft pick next year
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There's still Karasev. Of course, that would give us just about all the young SFs in Europe. Maybe Schröder can be persuaded to stay on in Germany?
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
Taking Muhammad would be just like taking Bayless. I saw mocks that had Bayless as high as #2, then he "fell" to us. Sure, he made us happy in Summer League, but not much thereafter. Muhammad is bigger and not pretending to be a PG, but he's still not exactly "team focused". Bayless was a SG in a PG's body, and Muhammad is a SF who wants to be a SG but is a total black hole and isn't a great shooter.
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The one thing about Bayless is because he was projected to go so much higher, I don't think they ever brought him in to evaluate. Hopefully our current staff will be able to evaluate Shabazz better than they did Bayless.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
The one thing about Bayless is because he was projected to go so much higher, I don't think they ever brought him in to evaluate. Hopefully our current staff will be able to evaluate Shabazz better than they did Bayless.
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Pretty sure there was a private workout with Bayless.
 
As for Saric, love that he is pulling out of the draft, as it was one of the easiest ways for Dallas to keep their pick and cap space. Now, they don't have that option, which puts their pick more in play.
 
RR7 said:
As for Saric, love that he is pulling out of the draft, as it was one of the easiest ways for Dallas to keep their pick and cap space. Now, they don't have that option, which puts their pick more in play.
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My thoughts exactly.
 
RR7 said:
Pretty sure there was a private workout with Bayless.
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Are you sure? I remember them saying just the opposite. Bayless only went to the team's in the top 5 or so. I thought for sure we discussed this at the time, and we were all a little nervous about it.

I could be thinking of someone else I suppose.
 
Keep in mind that Dario Saric has changed his mind virtually every step of the way along the draft process. Its a strange strange situation. -- DX
 
I don't think you can compare Bayless to Muhammed at all.....

Bayless = undersized SG, with spotty outside shot who could drive\get into the lane but had issues finishing....

Muhammed = Perfectly sized SG (is he too slow? I do not think he is) with decent outside game, very good post up game and ability to draw fouls...a finisher not a facilitator...
 
Yeah, I don't think the comp to Bayless fits at all. Also, doesn't Shabazz have long arms? Versus Bayless' little stumps.
 
Shabazz reminds me of Jalen Rose a bit. His handles and playmaking probably won't be as good, but similar kind of scoring skills, lefty, long arms, etc.
 
Both Bayless and Muhammad were hyped scorers in high school who are not team players. Bayless was too small for a SG, Muhammad is too small for a SF. Yes, Muhammad says he's a SG, but Bayless thought he was a PG, too. Wouldn't it be nice to have a SG who has better than average ball-handling skills?

Not a huge fan of a SG who has difficulty creating his own shot but also can't shoot that well and has succeeded so far by overpowering his high school/college opposition. Jalen Rose played POINT GUARD in college. Muhammad played small forward.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Wouldn't it be nice to have a SG who has better than average ball-handling skills?
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Who do you suggest? While I think Monta, Mayo, and Evans have better ball-handling skills than Wes, I don't think any of them are better at basketball.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Both Bayless and Muhammad were hyped scorers in high school who are not team players. Bayless was too small for a SG, Muhammad is too small for a SF. Yes, Muhammad says he's a SG, but Bayless thought he was a PG, too. Wouldn't it be nice to have a SG who has better than average ball-handling skills?

Not a huge fan of a SG who has difficulty creating his own shot but also can't shoot that well and has succeeded so far by overpowering his high school/college opposition. Jalen Rose played POINT GUARD in college. Muhammad played small forward.
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Those are good points. Shabazz is not a creator (for himself or others) and at the NBA level he will have to accept not being "the man" on offense. Nothing he showed at UCLA indicates he can make that transition.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Those are good points. Shabazz is not a creator (for himself or others) and at the NBA level he will have to accept not being "the man" on offense. Nothing he showed at UCLA indicates he can make that transition.
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I would also agree. If he can't show the Blazers that he has the potential to create for himself then I would pass on him. I say potential because everyone of these draft picks has a flaw. And if they can't improve then they will never stick. Personally I think Shabazz will be able to create his own shot, but I would defer to the Blazers coaches and GM to decide for sure.

Not worried about his passing.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
We've got to get this kid. He's the German Tony Parker. Or the German Rajon Rondo. Then we buy a pick for Dieng . . (And finish it by trading for Asik...)
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On the same train of thought.

At the end of it all, would love to see any two of Dieng/Len/Gobert + Shroeder in a Blazers uniform.
 
An interesting write-up from hoopsanalyst.com/blog/

Caldwell-Pope’s numbers fit the profile of successful SGs of the past as well as McLemore’s or Oladipo’s. He’s the youngest player of the trio, though by only a week over McLemore. His improvement from his freshman year shows he’s a player who will work on his game. He has NBA size. It’s unfortunate timing that his stellar season was overshadowed by the hype surrounding McLemore and Oladipo. It also didn’t help his visibility as a prospect that his Georgia team had a down year, finishing 15-17.

Caldwell-Pope is a player with a very high upside. SGs with a defensive/scoring combination like this are rare. The biggest concern I have is that he’ll never develop the scoring efficiency necessary to become a solid NBA SG. His lottery case is based on just 2 months of great play and that concerns me. I like that he improved so much, but I would like him better if he did it for another season. But that’s where the guess work comes in. Because he has an all-star upside, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope shouldn’t last past the top 10 on draft day.
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Fez Hammersticks said:
Zeller worked out for the Blazers today.
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The Trail Blazers continued their workouts in preparation for the June 27 NBA draft with their first solo workout of this offseason. The player: Indiana big man Cody Zeller. Zeller, a 7-foot, 240-pound big man, is considered a probable lottery pick who figures to go right in the range of Portland's No. 10 spots. One sign that the Blazers are seriously considering Zeller: Owner Paul Allen is attending the workout. Oregonian
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
An interesting write-up from hoopsanalyst.com/blog/
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This is how I see the 3.

Pope: Very Good outside shooter, very good defensive player, below average at attacking the rim.
Oladipo: Very good defender, very explosive to the rim, average shooter
Mclemore: Very good shooter, very explosive to the rim, average defender

If Pope has the potential to attack the rim, or possess a pull up jumper in the lane, then I would be all in for taking him. He seems to have everything else. But can he create his own shot? That seems to be the question for Shabazz. What about Pope?
 
Imagine someone suggesting a year ago that Zeller was in town for a workout and it barely generated any buzz.
 
After hosting nine potential lottery draft prospects over a 48-hour period Wednesday and Thursday, the Suns see the No. 5 overall pick as holding greater value than perhaps even they expected. "It's a good problem to have," GM Ryan McDonough said. "The issue for me might be too many good choices rather than not enough at five." The solution: Acquiring an additional selection in the first round. Arizona's Sports Page
Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#m30slUGw61RgZJrQ.99
 
The Magic are considering moving down in the draft and have quite a few suitors interested in trading for the No. 2 pick, according to the Orlando Sentinel
 
I hope either McCollum or Len falls to us. Neither is likely but a guy can hope.
 
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