[ official ] 2016 summer moves

[blazedanugz]

i think if our frontline rotation looks like this:

meyers, dwight, mase, davis, vonleh..

I think thats very strong. all have different skill sets and i think stotts would be great at using them all together.
i know vonleh didnt show much but i think when he does play next year he will be able to stretch the floor a bit better than this year.
not to mention you can play aminu there when we go small

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't think they keep all three of Harkless, Crabbe and Henderson. Which 2 do they keep? Blazers need more impact.....more quality over quantity.

Dame - 36 / CJ - 12 / Frazier??
CJ - 24 / Crabbe - 24 / Connaughton
Harkless - 32/ Crabbe 6 / Aminu 10 / Montero
Aminu - 24 / Davis - 24 / Vonleh / Alexander
Plumlee - 24 / Leonard - 24

Dame - 36
CJ - 36
Crabbe - 30
Harkless - 32
Aminu - 34
Davis - 24
Plumlee - 24
Meyers - 24

That is 8 players with minutes (none over 36) and no Hendo. Also, no minutes for Vonleh which doesn't help develop him and Montero has the best skills of any of the SF options so would like to see him have a chance to develop that raw potential.

If Portland does bring in someone, it need to be an impact upgrade and we might have to see guys we thought could contribute be moved as there is only room for 9 players to get minutes at the max on a consistent basis with maybe mop up/spot minutes for # 10-13.

Crabbe and Harkless. Easy decision. Those two really busted their asses in the playoffs. They're both young, and they're both RFA which means we can be patient. Hendo is gone.

 

[illmatic99]

Will Neil go in on a max for CJ this summer? I wouldn't affect our capspace this summer, but more so next. His caphold is tiny compared to the max he'll get next summer, so if we want space next year, we hold off on this til next year.

But we did extend Dame at his earliest possible time last summer.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Will Neil go in on a max for CJ this summer? I wouldn't affect our capspace this summer, but more so next. His caphold is tiny compared to the max he'll get next summer, so if we want space next year, we hold off on this til next year.

But we did extend Dame at his earliest possible time last summer.

I think we wait until next year to address it. I love CJ (one of my favorite players on the team) but still a question whether his body can hold up for these minutes and games. Best to show it one more season. If he does it again then no-brainer max guy though with the current shape of the NBA contracts.

 

[illmatic99]

Target:

Whiteside or Horford to go all in
Biyombo and Ezeli

They also mentioned the guy I've been championing: Joakim Noah.

 

[Nate]

I'm OK with that. We have, by my rough calculation, $35 million. $20 to Horford, $14 to Ezeli, then sign our own guys.

I would rather give Crabbe or harkless 14million a year.

 

[Sarni]

If we are going for non-expensive center then I prefer Biyombo to Ezeli. Should be considerably cheaper and is more suited to the team IMO. The issue is I don't consider him much of an upgrade over Plumlee and Davis.

 

[selloutking]

If we are going for non-expensive center then I prefer Biyombo to Ezeli. Should be considerably cheaper and is more suited to the team IMO. The issue is I don't consider him much of an upgrade over Plumlee and Davis.

I donno man, watch his highlights from last year
I know you can make just about anyone look good on a highlight reel, but he plays much bigger than he is. Think Ed's style, but much stronger, and Plums speed.

 

[illmatic99]

If we are going for non-expensive center then I prefer Biyombo to Ezeli. Should be considerably cheaper and is more suited to the team IMO. The issue is I don't consider him much of an upgrade over Plumlee and Davis.

I can see teams throwing Biyombo and Ezeli 15-20 mil / yr contracts easily.

Not too much cheaper.

 

[Sarni]

I donno man, watch his highlights from last year
I know you can make just about anyone look good on a highlight reel, but he plays much bigger than he is. Think Ed's style, but much stronger, and Plums speed.

His offense is where I am not convinced. He doesn't really add much post threat. He could become a defensive monster though.

 

[riverman]

He had Brian Roberts on him in the post and couldn't convert. I still can't believe he hit that shot in Game 4 ... Some team is going to have serious buyer's remorse this summer. Let's hope it's not us.

I'd rather bring back Dorell Wright than sign Harrison Barnes

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Your numbers are way off. $56M? Were paying $49M after Lillard gets his bump from making an all NBA team. With Crabbes hold, we'd have about $42M in cap space.

With one of Meyers/Harkless holds, we'd have approx. $35M in cap space.

With all three of their holds, we'd have $27M in cap, good for the max, barely not enough for the super max.

basketball-reference says 56.8:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/POR.html

your source?

 

[Eastoff]

Can someone list the rest of the league's expected cap room? It's a big task I know. It might help us realize how much the market can really handle.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Can someone list the rest of the league's expected cap room? It's a big task I know. It might help us realize how much the market can really handle.

This is probably slightly off since it was done right before the trade deadline but it should give you a general idea:
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nbas-bestworst-case-2016-17-cap-projections/

So basically a shit-ton of teams COULD have a bunch of cap space if they did some moves (like not resigning their own guys).

 

[Boise Blazer]

http://clutchpoints.com/report-demar-derozan-wants-sign-la-lakers-this-offseason/

“He’s made it very, very clear that he wants to be in L.A.,” Smith said of DeRozan’s intentions in free agency. “He has family out there. He’s from out there. He wants to be in L.A. He wants to wear the purple and gold, and if there’s a way for it to happen, again he’s restricted, if there’s a way for it to happen, DeMar DeRozan will be in a Los Angeles Lakers uniform next season.”

 

[theprunetang]

http://clutchpoints.com/report-demar-derozan-wants-sign-la-lakers-this-offseason/

Good. I didn't want him, and it will be nice to see LA waste their money on him.

 

[B-Roy]

http://clutchpoints.com/report-demar-derozan-wants-sign-la-lakers-this-offseason/

What kind of shitty source is this? He's not even restricted.

 

[santeesioux]

I've definitely cooled on wanting him here too, and he used to be the top guy I wanted after Durant/Lebron. If I thought Lillard and Ed Davis could sell him on coming here I'm still cool with it, but if he's really going to leave the second best team in the East to go to that train wreck we don't want a player like that anyway.

 

[santeesioux]

What kind of shitty source is this? He's not even restricted.

Good point, there's going to be a lot of bullshit for the next two months.

 

[Boise Blazer]

 

[42N8Bounce]

Will Neil go in on a max for CJ this summer? I wouldn't affect our capspace this summer, but more so next. His caphold is tiny compared to the max he'll get next summer, so if we want space next year, we hold off on this til next year.

Interesting question. Lots of variables.
Lets say:
- The Blazers let Henderson, Kaman and Roberts go this summer.
- The Blazers sign a max free-agent this summer, at around $26M.
- The Blazers sign Leonard ($10M), Harkless ($9M), and Crabbe ($8M) this summer.
- The CAP is expected to be around $108M next summer (2017).
- Considering M Plumlees has a cap hold of $5.8M, and CJ has a cap hold of $8.0M, the Blazers will have approximately $16.6M of CAP space going into the summer of 2017.

Since CJ's cap hold is $8.0M, and his expected pay day will probably be at or just slightly below max - estimate around $20M - $25M, then extending him early will eat up that entire $16.6M of expected CAP room for summer 2017. Is it worth the risk of waiting hoping we can find a good bargain with that $16.6M, or do we lock up CJ early?

Since CJ will be a restricted free agent, we can match any offer. If we're okay with assuming he'll get the max (around $25M), then we hold off and go after another free agent around the $16.6M range. Then go over the CAP to match any max offer for CJ.

If we're hoping to get him at less than the max, we sign him to an extension as early as possible.

CJ's a keeper.

*Edit: BBinsider's cap hold for Plumlee looks incorrect. It should be $5.8M. Updated my numbers.

 

[illmatic99]

How is it that Mase has a larger caphold than CJ? Plums was drafted like 10 picks after CJ.

hm

But ya, we save a bunch of capspace to go after FAs next summer if we wait to extend CJ. Kinda like SA did with Kawhi this past summer while opening up space for you know who

 

[BonesJones]

basketball-reference says 56.8:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/POR.html

your source?

They didn't stretch Varejaos contract.

 

[KingSpeed]

PG: Lillard
SG: McCollum
SF: Aminu*
PF:
C: Plumlee

I look at what he brings I believe Aminu should be backing up SF and mostly PF - like how Dallas used him. He's WAY too inconsistent to be relied on as a starter.

Aminu got better and better as the playoffs went on. If he was a FA this summer, he'd be one of the most coveted out there.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Is there a poison pill contract we can offer Drummond?

 

[selloutking]

His offense is where I am not convinced. He doesn't really add much post threat. He could become a defensive monster though.

Well like I said, think Ed but much stronger. think about all the times him or plums got an couldn't get position for an offensive board, or they did but just couldn't muscle it back up or got it blocked. that strength would equate to more conversions, and more chances at conversions.

 

[BonesJones]

Is there a poison pill contract we can offer Drummond?

They'd still accept.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Aminu got better and better as the playoffs went on. If he was a FA this summer, he'd be one of the most coveted out there.

I can't decide on Aminu. He's ok and all, but his 12 PER is garbage for a starting SF

 

[selloutking]

Is there a poison pill contract we can offer Drummond?

They'd still accept.

Yea that's not a guy you let go of, even with the issues at the line he has.
it would be a magic/shaq type fuck up to not to.

 

[PCmor7]

Aminu was adjusting to a whole new role this season. Even in the playoffs, you could see him get exponentially better game-by-game. I think he's earned the benefit of the doubt.