[ official ] 2016 summer moves

[Gronk Brady]

If Horford leaves and we sign HW.... Sign and Trade Biebs for Bazemore would be amazing.

How is this amazing?! Trade a uninque unicorn player like Meyers, who is just 24, and little bit of confidence away from being legit for a 6'5" undersized SF journeyman that can't shoot??? This is the new worst idea I have ever seen on this board... What's with the small thinking in here? Do you want a mediocre team or to go for a championship??? Bazemore is a downgrade over Crabbe and Harkless... Rather keep the cap room for next year than throw it away on a useless player like Bazmore!

 

[VanillaGorilla]

a uninque unicorn player like Meyers, who is just 24, and little bit of confidence away from being legit

LOL!

Meyers is nothing special.

 

[Gronk Brady]

LOL!

Meyers is nothing special.

At this time he isn't, but he has all the tools and has shown flashes... The only thing he is really lacking is confidence. At 24 years old, we shouldn't be ready to give up on him... Especially for a dime a dozen player like Kent Bazemore!

As for you laughing the unicorn reference, how many other players are in the league that are 7'1", athletic, and can shoot 50/40/90? I'll wait for your list...

 

[Tunchi]

At this time he isn't, but he has all the tools and has shown flashes... The only thing he is really lacking is confidence. At 24 years old, we shouldn't be ready to give up on him... Especially for a dime a dozen player like Kent Bazemore!

As for you laughing the unicorn reference, how many other players are in the league that are 7'1", athletic, and can shoot 50/40/90? I'll wait for your list...

Have you seen his recent numbers? He's a spot up shooter. He cant rebound, he cant guard other 4s, dont get me wrong hes ok but I wont think twice to pass up on him for anything more than 10M bucks

sorry

 

[Gronk Brady]

Have you seen his recent numbers? He's a spot up shooter. He cant rebound, he cant guard other 4s, dont get me wrong hes ok but I wont think twice to pass up on him for anything more than 10M bucks

sorry

I'm not saying he is untradable or to re-sign at any price... But to give up on him at age 24 for a mediocre guy like Kent Bazemore is ridiculous.

 

[Mediocre Man]

At this time he isn't, but he has all the tools and has shown flashes... The only thing he is really lacking is confidence. At 24 years old, we shouldn't be ready to give up on him... Especially for a dime a dozen player like Kent Bazemore!

As for you laughing the unicorn reference, how many other players are in the league that are 7'1", athletic, and can shoot 50/40/90? I'll wait for your list...

I applaud your blind fanaticism regarding trade bait. I wish I could go back to my youth and believe in myths like him also. Serious post.

 

[Natebishop3]

I applaud your blind fanaticism regarding trade bait. I wish I could go back to my youth and believe in myths like him also. Serious post.

Do you remember how long some people clung to the idea of Greg Oden?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Do you remember how long some people clung to the idea of Greg Oden?

Ya, and I really do admire those people

 

[Natebishop3]

Ya, and I really do admire those people

It just became so obvious to me after the second injury that he was never going to be the guy that we thought he was going to be.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It just became so obvious to me after the second injury that he was never going to be the guy that we thought he was going to be.

Me too

 

[VanillaGorilla]

It just became so obvious to me after the second injury that he was never going to be the guy that we thought he was going to be.

 

[Natebishop3]

He looked great when he was healthy....... but he was hardly ever healthy.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

He looked great when he was healthy....... but he was hardly ever healthy.

Yeah. I didn't really have a point, you just reminded me that I used to watch that video when I still had hope.

 

[Natebishop3]

Yeah. I didn't really have a point, you just reminded me that I used to watch that video when I still had hope.

Greg Oden/Brandon Roy/LaMarcus Aldridge...... what could have been.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Greg Oden/Brandon Roy/LaMarcus Aldridge...... what could have been.

Except Aldridge would have been the third best player on the team and left sooner.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Except Aldridge would have been the third best player on the team and left sooner.

Channing Frye would have been better than LaMarcus anyway.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

How is this amazing?! Trade a uninque unicorn player like Meyers, who is just 24, and little bit of confidence away from being legit for a 6'5" undersized SF journeyman that can't shoot??? This is the new worst idea I have ever seen on this board... What's with the small thinking in here? Do you want a mediocre team or to go for a championship??? Bazemore is a downgrade over Crabbe and Harkless... Rather keep the cap room for next year than throw it away on a useless player like Bazmore!

Uniquely bad, maybe. He's 89/100 in defensive +/-. MM doesn't call him Leonar_ for no reason. I'm not going to hunt it down right now, but there's an article out there that compares centers offensively/defensively/rebounds/blocks.... graphically, and in numerous ways. Outside of 3 points made, Biebs was the worst of the lot, by far.

On top of sucking, he's let Neil know that he wants big $$$.

Any statistical evidence for your insults, or is just a "never say never" thing?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Spacing reasons I think if you sign Dwert you have to match a Meyers offer sheet.

 

[dviss1]

Didn't want to start a new thread for it, so...

Bang LeBron's mom and your life is ended.

 

[Sarni]

I think he has to be traded by himself.

Ah crap, there's absolutely no way Atlanta will take Leonard for Millsap straight swap, that'd be suicidal.

Anyway, the above scenario required us to trade half of our team for Noel and Millsap and it still looks far fetched. A better chance would be signing Whiteside in free agency (we got a shot) or even someone like Mahinmi without giving up on any of our assets, and then trading up for Millsap if he becomes available (I really think this might be possible), maybe even after the season has started. A huge package of Vonleh, Plumlee and Crabbe/Leonard plus Cleveland's pick might somehow convince them to move Millsap to us. Obviously it'd make us very light on the bench and you're already pushing the cap space with Lillard, Millsap and Whiteside on the same team but it's definitely a contender line up.

Lillard/McCollum/Harkless/Millsap/Whiteside is a hell of a line up. Even if you replace Whiteside with someone like Mahinmi it's still going to be a contender.

One can dream. Millsap is definitely my dream signing for this offseason, a complete pipe dream but who cares. Noel is more probable, we could probably convince 76ers to take Crabbe + pick or Crabbe + player at some point.

 

[BonesJones]

I'm just not seeing how we're gonna make a second move. At least a second free agent....

Let's say we get Howard to take a pretty massive paycut and even sign for 20 million a year. That still only gives us like 7 million in cap space without cutting Crabbe/Harkless/Leonard.

Obviously if we cut Leonard or the other guys we will have more money, but I don't really see that happening.

Now a trade on the other hand..... if we could get Howard to sign for 20-22 million, having that extra cushion could give us the space to make a lopsided trade. I'm hoping Horford leaves and the Hawks blow it up.

I could very well see us signing 2 guys if we sign Whiteside (Or Howard for less than $21M). We'd still have $5.6M and a logjam at center with Leonard, Plumlee, and said Free Agent. We'd get rid of Leonard or Plumlee, which would at least shed $2.8M, which would leave us with $8.4M to go sign a Jared Dudley or Jarret Jack type. Renouncing Meyers instead would leave us with $13.3M. That's a lot of dough

 

[Sarni]

I could very well see us signing 2 guys if we sign Whiteside (Or Howard for less than $21M). We'd still have $5.6M and a logjam at center with Leonard, Plumlee, and said Free Agent. We'd get rid of Leonard or Plumlee, which would at least shed $2.8M, which would leave us with $8.4M to go sign a Jared Dudley or Jarret Jack type. Renouncing Meyers instead would leave us with $13.3M. That's a lot of dough

It'd possibly make sense to let Leonard go and spend $13M on two more players: a PF or SF and then let Plumlee leave to whichever team need a C but cannot get one in market (his value will be significant). We'd be left with Whiteside and Davis for center and could get someone on a cheap deal. $12M will get you Bazemore, Marvin Williams etc. Or keep the money and make a Millsap move (yeah I want him badly) - we could probably make it work financially though am I right saying $13M will not be there once Harkless and Crabbe extend?

It's just so complicated with basketball, man. I am a football (soccer) fan too and it's way simpler to follow transfer market. You either buy them or you don't.

 

[KingSpeed]

Knicks signing Noah to join former teammate Derrick Rose