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Rastapopoulos said:
Re: Howard. I just watched this and it made no mention of Portland. I breathed a sign of relief.
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What does Windhorst know? Nobody is talking about Portland as a destination for ANYONE. Seriously, ESPN doesn't give a shit about Portland. I really hope we come out of nowhere and snatch someone big like Horford or Whiteside because it would blow their minds.
 
Natebishop3 said:
What does Windhorst know? Nobody is talking about Portland as a destination for ANYONE. Seriously, ESPN doesn't give a shit about Portland. I really hope we come out of nowhere and snatch someone big like Horford or Whiteside because it would blow their minds.
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Natebishop3 said:
I mean..... it won't officially be resolved until the moratorium expires.
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Technically, sure. But we "signed" Aminu right at midnight. That was, for all intents and purposes, resolved.
 
RR7 said:
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I hope it's resolved on July 1st also; will make it much easier to decide what to do after that. And it should be easy to make a decision; get a max contract, play with Lillard and McCollum and a bunch of fun but dedicated-to-winning teammates. Live in a nice city where it's not too hot to go outside in the summer and have a great fan base! If he decides he doesn't want to go to Portland; then I will know he is a poor decision maker and I wouldn't have wanted him.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I hope it's resolved on July 1st also; will make it much easier to decide what to do after that. And it should be easy to make a decision; get a max contract, play with Lillard and McCollum and a bunch of fun but dedicated-to-winning teammates. Live in a nice city where it's not too hot to go outside in the summer and have a great fan base! If he decides he doesn't want to go to Portland; then I will know he is a poor decision maker and I wouldn't have wanted him.
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I just happened to see this on FB right after I wrote that:
 
The Bulls still want to trade Taj Gibson.

If we strike out in free agency I would take him over someone like Biyombo coming in at 15 MIL a year plus.

He makes 9 MIL and only has one year left on his contract. They would probably give him away for just cap space at this point (I would send Project Pat for him though to open a roster space).

Any interest in that case? He isn't a stud of course but he is solid and a PF that could play for 1 year until Vonleh is ready. Certainly not a needle-moving deal but someone to consider in plan D or so.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I just happened to see this on FB right after I wrote that:
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Invite every desired free agent to Portland this week and I'd bet the current beautiful weather would give more than a few pause for thought. Most don't know anything about the city, other than what they might briefly see during the (usually wet) basketball season. They have no clue how much better we have it than most places. But then, most aren't old enough to appreciate that kind of thing yet.....Back when we drafted Bill Walton, he was also drafted by San Diego (his hometown) of the old ABA. There was some concern over whether we would be able to sign him, but they brought him up here during a similar run of great weather and it sold him in a heartbeat. He had no idea this kind of place existed. I think the Blazers need to make as much effort to sell the city to free agents as they do selling the team. It's a powerful combination at this particular time.
 
I have formulated my official predictions using my crystal ball of Warrior fan tears

-On July 1st at 2:00pm PT, the Blazers sign Hassan Whiteside to a 4 year deal starting at $21M per year.
-On July 2nd, the Blazers trade Mason Plumlee to the Pacers for a 2017 1st Round Pick and Joe Young.
-On July 2nd, the Blazers sign Jared Dudley to a 2 year deal starting at $7M a year with a player option.
-On July 3rd, the Blazers agree to a 3-team trade. Meyers Leonard and the 2018 CLE Pick head to the Nets on a 4 year, $16M per year contract. The Nets send Brook Lopez to the Dallas Mavericks. The Mavericks send Chandler Parsons to Portland (on a 4 Year Max Contract) and their 2017 1st Round Pick and AJ Hammons to Brooklyn.
-On July 7th, Portland, Brooklyn, and Dallas officially execute the Leonard/Parsons/Lopez trade.
-On July 8th Portland signs Moe Harkless (3 years, $30M) and Allen Crabbe (4 years, $54M).

PG Lillard (36) / McCollum (12) / Young
SG McCollum (24) / Crabbe (24) / Connaughton
SF Parsons (30) / Harkless (18) / Montero / Layman
PF Aminu (28) / Dudley (20) / Alexander
C Whiteside (30) / Davis (18) / Vonleh

I'll bump this again when it happens!
 
BonesJones said:
I have formulated my official predictions using my crystal ball of Warrior fan tears

-On July 1st at 2:00pm PT, the Blazers sign Hassan Whiteside to a 4 year deal starting at $21M per year.
-On July 2nd, the Blazers trade Mason Plumlee to the Pacers for a 2017 1st Round Pick and Joe Young.
-On July 2nd, the Blazers sign Jared Dudley to a 2 year deal starting at $7M a year with a player option.
-On July 3rd, the Blazers agree to a 3-team trade. Meyers Leonard and the 2018 CLE Pick head to the Nets on a 4 year, $16M per year contract. The Nets send Brook Lopez to the Dallas Mavericks. The Mavericks send Chandler Parsons to Portland (on a 4 Year Max Contract) and their 2017 1st Round Pick and AJ Hammons to Brooklyn.
-On July 7th, Portland, Brooklyn, and Dallas officially execute the Leonard/Parsons/Lopez trade.
-On July 8th Portland signs Moe Harkless (3 years, $30M) and Allen Crabbe (4 years, $54M).

PG Lillard (36) / McCollum (12) / Young
SG McCollum (24) / Crabbe (24) / Connaughton
SF Parsons (30) / Harkless (18) / Montero / Layman
PF Aminu (28) / Dudley (20) / Alexander
C Whiteside (30) / Davis (18) / Vonleh

I'll bump this again when it happens!
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When doing a sign and trade (as in your Leonard for Chandler deal) the resigned player only counts as 150% of the prior year's salary for matching purposes. So that particular trade wouldn't be permitted under the cap.

Good effort though.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
When doing a sign and trade (as in your Leonard for Chandler deal) the resigned player only counts as 150% of the prior year's salary for matching purposes. So that particular trade wouldn't be permitted under the cap.

Good effort though.
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What do you mean? The new contract doesn't apply when matching the salary in a sign and trade?
 
BonesJones said:
What do you mean? The new contract doesn't apply when matching the salary in a sign and trade?
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Nope--the Base Year Compensation rule would apply.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q89

I mis-quoted, however. It's not 150% of the old salary, but 50% of the new salary, that would be considered our outgoing salary in a sign-and-trade deal involving Leonard if the new contract would put us over the cap. So, if we re-sign him to a new deal starting at $12M, we consider $6M as the outgoing value, and can only take $9M (150%) back.
 
The last CBA made Sign&Trades less likely because they eliminated the 'full Bird right' raises if I understand correctly. If you were going to sign and trade someone, they could only get the raises that another team could offer them, not the higher amount his former team could offer if they were to keep him. Combine that with the limits on base-year players and that is part of why you don't see nearly as many S&T deals as we used to.
 
Complicated and Detailed....
You clearly have big Crystal Balls to suggest such a thing....
Anyway, I really hope you're right!!

BonesJones said:
I have formulated my official predictions using my crystal ball of Warrior fan tears

-On July 1st at 2:00pm PT, the Blazers sign Hassan Whiteside to a 4 year deal starting at $21M per year.
-On July 2nd, the Blazers trade Mason Plumlee to the Pacers for a 2017 1st Round Pick and Joe Young.
-On July 2nd, the Blazers sign Jared Dudley to a 2 year deal starting at $7M a year with a player option.
-On July 3rd, the Blazers agree to a 3-team trade. Meyers Leonard and the 2018 CLE Pick head to the Nets on a 4 year, $16M per year contract. The Nets send Brook Lopez to the Dallas Mavericks. The Mavericks send Chandler Parsons to Portland (on a 4 Year Max Contract) and their 2017 1st Round Pick and AJ Hammons to Brooklyn.
-On July 7th, Portland, Brooklyn, and Dallas officially execute the Leonard/Parsons/Lopez trade.
-On July 8th Portland signs Moe Harkless (3 years, $30M) and Allen Crabbe (4 years, $54M).

PG Lillard (36) / McCollum (12) / Young
SG McCollum (24) / Crabbe (24) / Connaughton
SF Parsons (30) / Harkless (18) / Montero / Layman
PF Aminu (28) / Dudley (20) / Alexander
C Whiteside (30) / Davis (18) / Vonleh

I'll bump this again when it happens!
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Our two big signings this year will be guys who have had history of knee issues? Scary.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Our two big signings this year will be guys who have had history of knee issues? Scary.
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Yeah that is why I was glad we did not go after Durant. 3 foot surgeries in one year is a deal breaker.......
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Nope--the Base Year Compensation rule would apply.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q89

I mis-quoted, however. It's not 150% of the old salary, but 50% of the new salary, that would be considered our outgoing salary in a sign-and-trade deal involving Leonard if the new contract would put us over the cap. So, if we re-sign him to a new deal starting at $12M, we consider $6M as the outgoing value, and can only take $9M (150%) back.
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Aha, so that trade would hypothetically work. You could sign and trade $15M+ to for $21M even if ya want to go over the cap.

Therefore, we could pursue a 2nd lower max free agent without having to renounce guys because we could sign and trade Meyers for them.
 
BonesJones said:
Aha, so that trade would hypothetically work. You could sign and trade $15M+ to for $21M even if ya want to go over the cap.

Therefore, we could pursue a 2nd lower max free agent without having to renounce guys because we could sign and trade Meyers for them.
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No, you couldn't. If you signed him for $15M, his outgoing salary value for us would only be $7.5M, so the most we could bring back would be $11.25M.

Max incoming = 150% of outgoing. Outgoing = 50% of new according to BYC rule. Therefore, incoming contract values can only = 75% (150% x 50%) of new contract value being sent out on a sign & trade.
 
Looks like we may need every bit of cap space? Wow were getting Durant I can't believe it, what a moment.
 
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