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Natebishop3 said:
Probably Buddy Hield. Is he really that much better, or could he be that much better than CJ?
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Absolutely not. Hield is a solid prospect but he's not a dynamic player as some make him out to be. He broke out as a super senior - his previous three years were ok but not spectacular. His a/t ratio is also below par - 2apg/3tov. That's abysmal coming from your senior guard with the highest usg% on the roster. Some scouts have compared him to JJ Redick in terms of NBA role.

Hield doesn’t have elite quickness or creativity off the dribble…which isn’t the end of the world, but does make you question how he would fare as a primary option at the next level. He’s probably not a guy an NBA team would want to build its offense around, and he would be better off as more of a role player who spots up off better players….Even as a senior, Hield is still a fairly one-dimensional scorer and he doesn’t look to set up his teammates all that much.

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e_blazer said:
Pretty good synopsis on the status of this year's crop of free agents in this OregonLive article:

http://www.oregonlive.com/nba/index..._playoff_performers_h.html#incart_river_index

I'm beginning to think that Howard and maybe Barnes may be the only significant FAs the Blazers have a legitimate shot at getting this summer.
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Most of that made sense. I don't see how the author thinks that other teams won't be offering whiteside as much money as the heat though. I'm pretty sure that's completely ass-backwards, the heat are gonna have a problem trying to pay him.
 
This was one of my three targets from the 2013 draft: Alex Abrines

His stock dropped as he was committed to his Euro club for at least "2-3" seasons. He was an 'intangibles' guy who could shoot but was Will Barton skinny. Dropped to #32, should've went mid-first or late lotto.

He's turning into one of the best guards in Europe and recently won the rising stars trophy- shot a blistering 44% from three in the ACB.

This is the sixth man Neil ought to target. OKC own his rights.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
How is his D? He looks like most Euros....fundamentally sound....but there were of course no highlights of him on defense.
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I actually wasn't impress with him take some questionable shots and doesn't jump really good so a trade with him in it I will pass.
 
Robert Covington has been made available.

He'd a great addition to the bench. Solid outside shooter. Stotts' type of PF:

 
Some highlights of one of Howard's best games this season. He doesn't seem to be an athletic freak anymore, but he's very strong inside.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
This was one of my three targets from the 2013 draft: Alex Abrines

His stock dropped as he was committed to his Euro club for at least "2-3" seasons. He was an 'intangibles' guy who could shoot but was Will Barton skinny. Dropped to #32, should've went mid-first or late lotto.

He's turning into one of the best guards in Europe and recently won the rising stars trophy- shot a blistering 44% from three in the ACB.

This is the sixth man Neil ought to target. OKC own his rights.
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Just signed until 2019 with a big buyout (apparently).

Can't say he ever really wowed me. He's very Crabbe-esque. None of that Rudy flair.
 
MickZagger said:
He's not a PF.
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Right, at 6'9" 215 lbs. and .353 3FG% he's triply redundant with Aminu and Harkless. He shot more threes than Aminu, but at a slightly lower 3FG%. He's the same age as Aminu, and older than Harkless. He's cheap, VERY cheap. The only way I'd go for him is if we decide not to ere-sign Harkless and need a cheap replacement.

BNM
 
Who can we get who's just like Andre Iguodala, only about ten years younger? Cuz I want that guy. Apparently they're invaluable once you get somewhere in the playoffs.
 
I'm going to lay this concept out on the table as simply as I can. This is how I see this particular off-season. Based on the progression this team made during the season and their competitiveness (Not results which are skewed due to injuries) this is not a team that we should make a big shakeup with. It is the 3rd of 4th youngest team in the league and most the players still have considerable ceilings for growth. As such we should not be looking to make significant changes to the roster in terms of trading players. If we simply brought back the same team we would be better next year due to additional familiarity, taste of success and natural development. That is not the right decision either though. What we need to be doing is adding to the existing core of this team. This team is built in a similar mold to GS, but there is one significant difference. The role Andrew Bogut plays. A strong physical Center who can play D and affect shots as well as score within 3 feet of the basket. We need to make this addition this summer and then if the season doens't progress we look at making trades at deadline or next summer.

What a lot of you don't want to see is Dwight Howard joining the Blazers is almost the perfect storm of needs for both parties. Several reasons why. Dwight will get the ball more in Terry's system so will be happy, he will draw the defense in to the paint a bit more helping space the floor better for Dame and CJ. People complain that we would need a PF that has range to pair with him... Hello Meyers Leonard is one of if not the best shooting big in the league.

I know people are saying Whiteside this Whiteside that, and I know age is a big key there, but in reality Dwight is used to being on a contender, he carried the Magic to the Finals pretty much on his own. Yeah it's been a few years, but he still has that mind. I don't know that whiteside does.

What about Horford? Horford would fit us just as well, but I'm not sure we fit Horford as well as we fit Howard.

Am I a fan of Dwight Howard? Not particularly, but I do see him as being very likely as we can add him, improve our depth and not have to trade a core piece to make it happen. The question is would he take $27 instead of $30.
 
Schilly said:
I'm going to lay this concept out on the table as simply as I can. This is how I see this particular off-season. Based on the progression this team made during the season and their competitiveness (Not results which are skewed due to injuries) this is not a team that we should make a big shakeup with. It is the 3rd of 4th youngest team in the league and most the players still have considerable ceilings for growth. As such we should not be looking to make significant changes to the roster in terms of trading players. If we simply brought back the same team we would be better next year due to additional familiarity, taste of success and natural development. That is not the right decision either though. What we need to be doing is adding to the existing core of this team. This team is built in a similar mold to GS, but there is one significant difference. The role Andrew Bogut plays. A strong physical Center who can play D and affect shots as well as score within 3 feet of the basket. We need to make this addition this summer and then if the season doens't progress we look at making trades at deadline or next summer.

What a lot of you don't want to see is Dwight Howard joining the Blazers is almost the perfect storm of needs for both parties. Several reasons why. Dwight will get the ball more in Terry's system so will be happy, he will draw the defense in to the paint a bit more helping space the floor better for Dame and CJ. People complain that we would need a PF that has range to pair with him... Hello Meyers Leonard is one of if not the best shooting big in the league.

I know people are saying Whiteside this Whiteside that, and I know age is a big key there, but in reality Dwight is used to being on a contender, he carried the Magic to the Finals pretty much on his own. Yeah it's been a few years, but he still has that mind. I don't know that whiteside does.

What about Horford? Horford would fit us just as well, but I'm not sure we fit Horford as well as we fit Howard.

Am I a fan of Dwight Howard? Not particularly, but I do see him as being very likely as we can add him, improve our depth and not have to trade a core piece to make it happen. The question is would he take $27 instead of $30.
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Fabulous post. I cant disagree. Not a fan of Howard, but we might just be the best pairing for him in the league, and if he brings to the table what he is capable of, he fills almost all of our gaps like you explained. PLUS we keep Leonard in your scenario!!!!
 
Dwight Howard may not be the force he used to be, and not sure if he should be our #1 target, but I do think he'd help the Blazers. Does he want to come in and be apart of a more positive team and play his role? I happier Howard might be a better Howard.

If you look at his advanced stats, his production hasn't really slipped much yet. His rebounding percentage last year is exactly what his career average has been. His block % was 4.1 while his career is 4.4.

He coverted 75% of his shots 0-3 last year, which is good as ever for him.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Who can we get who's just like Andre Iguodala, only about ten years younger? Cuz I want that guy. Apparently they're invaluable once you get somewhere in the playoffs.
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You might get a guy like Iguodala....but 10 years younger might be tough. He went to GS in his 10th year in the league. So he had already been named to the All NBA defensive team. His experience is what has made him so valuable in the playoffs.
 
Schilly said:
I'm going to lay this concept out on the table as simply as I can. This is how I see this particular off-season. Based on the progression this team made during the season and their competitiveness (Not results which are skewed due to injuries) this is not a team that we should make a big shakeup with. It is the 3rd of 4th youngest team in the league and most the players still have considerable ceilings for growth. As such we should not be looking to make significant changes to the roster in terms of trading players. If we simply brought back the same team we would be better next year due to additional familiarity, taste of success and natural development. That is not the right decision either though. What we need to be doing is adding to the existing core of this team. This team is built in a similar mold to GS, but there is one significant difference. The role Andrew Bogut plays. A strong physical Center who can play D and affect shots as well as score within 3 feet of the basket. We need to make this addition this summer and then if the season doens't progress we look at making trades at deadline or next summer.

What a lot of you don't want to see is Dwight Howard joining the Blazers is almost the perfect storm of needs for both parties. Several reasons why. Dwight will get the ball more in Terry's system so will be happy, he will draw the defense in to the paint a bit more helping space the floor better for Dame and CJ. People complain that we would need a PF that has range to pair with him... Hello Meyers Leonard is one of if not the best shooting big in the league.

I know people are saying Whiteside this Whiteside that, and I know age is a big key there, but in reality Dwight is used to being on a contender, he carried the Magic to the Finals pretty much on his own. Yeah it's been a few years, but he still has that mind. I don't know that whiteside does.

What about Horford? Horford would fit us just as well, but I'm not sure we fit Horford as well as we fit Howard.

Am I a fan of Dwight Howard? Not particularly, but I do see him as being very likely as we can add him, improve our depth and not have to trade a core piece to make it happen. The question is would he take $27 instead of $30.
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Pretty much exactly how I'm feeling about him. My first thought was, "Yuck". My second thought was, "Yuck. Hell no!" Then I thought about what the Blazers are missing and Howard is pretty much the prototype of what I'd want...with a few caveats. He's been a total bust his last two stops in LA and Houston. How much of that is on him and how much is just bad fit? That's the big question that Olshey has to answer. There's no doubt the guy is a physical specimen, even with the miles he has on his body. But physical prowess only gets you so far without the mental drive to do something with it. That's the part of the equation that I've always had doubts about with him. I think that in LA and Houston he was in a situation where a dominant shooting guard was the mainstay of the offense and he was relegated to a supporting cast role. I don't think that would be the case in Portland. Dame and CJ are willing passers and Terry is really good at adjusting his offense to take advantage of his players' strengths. A shot blocker who can also score in the paint would be exactly what the team needs. So, Olshey has to make the call on whether Howard is going to get excited and rejuvenate his career in a new setting. The second caveat is health. His back and knees are concerns. The medical staff will have to determine whether the mileage on his chassis is getting too great to be worth the price tag he's going to demand.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Right, at 6'9" 215 lbs. and .353 3FG% he's triply redundant with Aminu and Harkless. He shot more threes than Aminu, but at a slightly lower 3FG%. He's the same age as Aminu, and older than Harkless. He's cheap, VERY cheap. The only way I'd go for him is if we decide not to ere-sign Harkless and need a cheap replacement.

BNM
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Just spit balling here, but both Aminu and Harkless saw their 3pt avg increase by almost 100 points from the previous seasons. Weather that's just pure confidence from their coach or style and scheme, or whatever, might not we expect similar results with Covington? His defensive rating was better than his teams defensive rating, if that means anything? It's kinda nice to have a bunch of 6'7"-6'9" guys that can all play in today's NBA. I don't know much about his defense, but if he has quick enough feet, he may be worth a shot?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Who can we get who's just like Andre Iguodala, only about ten years younger? Cuz I want that guy. Apparently they're invaluable once you get somewhere in the playoffs.
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Harrison F. Barnes might be that guy...in about ten years.
 
I wonder if the Cavs would want to deal Love if they fail int he finals.

If we could put together a decent enough package, and still maintain some space to sign a defensive rim protector, would that be a benefit?
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Dwight's preference is to go east. He has not fared well since he has been in the western conference. And the west is not getting any easier. The question is who in the East wants him that has cap space?
 
One other perk, is it takes one of those players that is a match-up problem for us, and puts him on our team.... Sounds kinda simple at that point, but the match-up problems for us are Deandre Jordan, Demarcus Cousins, Dwight Howard, Andrew Bogut, etc... So now that takes one less matchup problem away and helps level the playing field against the others.

A bonus is Dwight is also a national media presence, which we would add to Dame's presence and the impact McCollum also makes.
 
e_blazer said:
Pretty much exactly how I'm feeling about him. My first thought was, "Yuck". My second thought was, "Yuck. Hell no!" Then I thought about what the Blazers are missing and Howard is pretty much the prototype of what I'd want...with a few caveats. He's been a total bust his last two stops in LA and Houston. How much of that is on him and how much is just bad fit? That's the big question that Olshey has to answer. There's no doubt the guy is a physical specimen, even with the miles he has on his body. But physical prowess only gets you so far without the mental drive to do something with it. That's the part of the equation that I've always had doubts about with him. I think that in LA and Houston he was in a situation where a dominant shooting guard was the mainstay of the offense and he was relegated to a supporting cast role. I don't think that would be the case in Portland. Dame and CJ are willing passers and Terry is really good at adjusting his offense to take advantage of his players' strengths. A shot blocker who can also score in the paint would be exactly what the team needs. So, Olshey has to make the call on whether Howard is going to get excited and rejuvenate his career in a new setting. The second caveat is health. His back and knees are concerns. The medical staff will have to determine whether the mileage on his chassis is getting too great to be worth the price tag he's going to demand.
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I think that Kobe and Harden are arguably the 2 most difficult players to play on the floor with that the league has had in the last 10 years.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Dwight's preference is to go east. He has not fared well since he has been in the western conference. And the west is not getting any easier. The question is who in the East wants him that has cap space?
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Im not so sure about this. Yes there are teams on the rise ( Us, Minni, UTah, Phoenix, NO), but I think the following teams have had their best years for this decade already...
Spurs
Mavs
Houston
Clippers

Lakers and Sac are not going to be good for a couple more years at best...

Now might just be the right time to join a rising team in the west.
Of the teams on the rise, none of them can really use Howard like we can.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I wonder if the Cavs would want to deal Love if they fail int he finals.

If we could put together a decent enough package, and still maintain some space to sign a defensive rim protector, would that be a benefit?
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I couldn't help think about that last night. If we want him then I think we should all root for the Cavs to lose in 4 or 5.
Is he ideal for us? No. But like you alluded to if we surround him with a SF and Center who compliment him then he might be a more realistic option than Horford.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Im not so sure about this. Yes there are teams on the rise ( Us, Minni, UTah, Phoenix, NO), but I think the following teams have had their best years for this decade already...
Spurs
Mavs
Houston
Clippers

Lakers and Sac are not going to be good for a couple more years at best...

Now might just be the right time to join a rising team in the west.
Of the teams on the rise, none of them can really use Howard like we can.
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In Dwight's window.......GS, SA, and the Clippers will still be strong. OKC is the wild card depending on Durant. And like you said Portland, Utah, and Minnesota are on the rise.

Leonard and LMA are still solid pieces for SA. Both them and the Clippers (when healthy) are as good as anyone in the East right now. Besides it is really about perception...and how Dwight's views the West vs the East. I think he is tired of not being a contender.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
In Dwight's window.......GS, SA, and the Clippers will still be strong. OKC is the wild card depending on Durant. And like you said Portland, Utah, and Minnesota are on the rise.

Leonard and LMA are still solid pieces for SA. Both them and the Clippers (when healthy) are as good as anyone in the East right now. Besides it is really about perception...and how Dwight's views the West vs the East. I think he is tired of not being a contender.
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The problem is the last 2 stops he's made came with the pressure of being a "Contender" and neither has panned out and clearly the Lakers did not benefit from him leaving.
 
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