Exclusive Official 2017 NBA Draft Thread

[PtldPlatypus]

Hmmm, good question. Assuming the order was the same?

1. 76ers- Mitchell
2. Lakers- Tatum
3. Celtics- Z. Collins
4. Suns- Smith Jr.
5. Kings- Markkanen
6. Magic- Kuzma
7. Bulls- Josh Jackson
8. Knicks- Fox
9. Mavs- Isaac
10. Kings- Ntilikina

John Collins probably belongs somewhere as well.

Seems way high for Zach (for me). I'd think Jackson would go 3rd. John Collins and Bam Adebayo would probably go ahead of Zach. OG Anunoby too. And Laker that he is, Lonzo has been pretty darn good overall, and I don't see how he gets left out of the top 10.

Personally, I think Zach's still got a ways to go to be considered one of the top ten players in this draft.

 

[Scalma]

Seems way high for Zach (for me). I'd think Jackson would go 3rd. John Collins and Bam Adebayo would probably go ahead of Zach. OG Anunoby too. And Laker that he is, Lonzo has been pretty darn good overall, and I don't see how he gets left out of the top 10.

Personally, I think Zach's still got a ways to go to be considered one of the top ten players in this draft.

Why would Zach’s value have taken a hit? He’s a significant contributor on a top five team. Not many rookies can say that. He’s also a big, and those will always be the most valued, especially one that fits the modern game as much as he does.

 

[SIeepwalker]

So we pretty much gotta do something like trade for PG to keep up with the Wolves, right?

Guess not

RIP foot speed

↑ after the Collins pick... hm ?

The Collins pick wasn't very appreciated on this thread:

NO gonna get fired when this guy is Meyers 2.0?

So we drafted Myers 2.0?

Olshey needs to go.

You fucked up, Neil.

You fucked up.

God I hope he's part of a trade to Indy.

He even looks like Meyers.

Fucking Blazers

were going to purgatory soon

The 3rd seed purgatory !

But the were also (not many, but still) Collins defenders !

Zach Collins baby!!! Yes!!!! Thank you Neil!!

And comparing ZCollins to Meyers is just plain ignorant. Other than they are white and tall, that is about where it ends.

Aside from the white/big hate, Collins is a fantastic pick. He is a very good defender and plays the PF, not center position. Best defensive rating in the draft.

 

[BonesJones]

These Collins/Meyers comparisons are pathetic.

Collins is Meyers if you make him agile, a quick jumper, speed up his jumper, give him some confidence and fire, give him the gift of defensive awareness and timing...

I tried to tell yall...

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Why would Zach’s value have taken a hit? He’s a significant contributor on a top five team. Not many rookies can say that. He’s also a big, and those will always be the most valued, especially one that fits the modern game as much as he does.

I'm just saying that other rookies have arguably shown a lot more this season than Zach has. Their value increasing didn't necessarily mean his is lower.

The fact that he's filling a void on a good team doesn't necessarily mean that he's any better than players at his position on lesser teams. That's why I'd list Markkanen, Adebayo, J. Collins, and perhaps Jarrett Allen as frontcourt rookies I'd put ahead of Zach just based on what they've shown this year, in addition to Tatum, Jackson, Kuzma, and Anunoby. And that's just looking at forwards and centers.

 

[Scalma]

I'm just saying that other rookies have arguably shown a lot more this season than Zach has. Their value increasing didn't necessarily mean his is lower.

The fact that he's filling a void on a good team doesn't necessarily mean that he's any better than players at his position on lesser teams. That's why I'd list Markkanen, Adebayo, J. Collins, and perhaps Jarrett Allen as frontcourt rookies I'd put ahead of Zach just based on what they've shown this year, in addition to Tatum, Jackson, Kuzma, and Anunoby. And that's just looking at forwards and centers.

A lot of them are putting up better surface stats, but how many of them would be given the same green light on a good team? How many of them are actually efficient? If you gave Zach the minutes and shots those guys are getting he’d put up some cute stats too.

 

[Cippy91]

Guess not



↑ after the Collins pick... hm ?

The Collins pick wasn't very appreciated on this thread:

















The 3rd seed purgatory !

But the were also (not many, but still) Collins defenders !

For the record I made the lavar ball joke. I didn’t think much of Collins when we drafted him but I also didn’t think he was a bust. I wanted to give him a chance even after his terrible summer league. I just wasn’t sure.

 

[BonesJones]

Its just funny seeing how many people hated the pick when they didnt have any idea who Collins was as a player. White big man stigma. Smh.