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yuyuza1 said:
I would go all in on Gordon if he were available. Including trading Collins or Nurkic.
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No thanks! Other than dunking, what is it that Gordon does so well? He's a bit of a tweener. ORL tried him at SF last season and that a disaster. So, they moved him back to PF, where he is a below average rebounder for his position, a below average 3-point shooter and a net negative defender.

Sure, he's only 22, but he's going to command big bucks this summer. Gordon is clearly a better offensive player than Zach Collins at this point, but 20-year old Collins is already a better defender and a better 3-point shooter. Gordon is going to get paid like a No. 2 option, but he's at best a No.3 or No. 4 option on a contender. Collins is locked up on a cheap rookie contract for several more years. I'd rather keep him than get stuck in a match or loose this summer situation with Gordon.

BNM
 
Mr. Robot said:
fuck off, once for Collins and twice for Nurkic
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The Magic don't want Nurk since they already have Nikola Vucevic. Also Nurk is a RFA, and they aren't in spending mode.

I'd easily do Collins for Gordon. He's a crazy athletic 4 that can stretch the floor and start right away. Collins is a couple seasons away from being a legit starter.
 
craigehlo said:
I'd easily do Collins for Gordon. He's a crazy athletic 4 that can stretch the floor and start right away. Collins is a couple seasons away from being a legit starter.
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Aaron Gordon career 3FG% = .308
Evan Turner career 3FG% = .300

Not exactly the two guys I want "stretching the floor" at the starting forward spots.

He's also a negative defender and a below average rebounder for a starting PF.

And, he's an RFA who is going to command big bucks this summer. How could POR possibly retain both him and Nurk?

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
No thanks! Other than dunking, what is it that Gordon does so well? He's a bit of a tweener. ORL tried him at SF last season and that a disaster. So, they moved him back to PF, where he is a below average rebounder for his position, a below average 3-point shooter and a net negative defender.

Sure, he's only 22, but he's going to command big bucks this summer. Gordon is clearly a better offensive player than Zach Collins at this point, but 20-year old Collins is already a better defender and a better 3-point shooter. Gordon is going to get paid like a No. 2 option, but he's at best a No.3 or No. 4 option on a contender. Collins is locked up on a cheap rookie contract for several more years. I'd rather keep him than get stuck in a match or loose this summer situation with Gordon.

BNM
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I'm not looking at this in a vaccuum. I think with Dame/CJ, and one of our bigs (either Nurk or Zach), Gordon will be terrific. He only has Fournier now to keep defenses honest. Get him more open looks from 3, and make him our finisher on the P&R, and I think he projects out like an Amare with a somewhat decent 3pt shot.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I'm not looking at this in a vaccuum. I think with Dame/CJ, and one of our bigs (either Nurk or Zach), Gordon will be terrific. He only has Fournier now to keep defenses honest. Get him more open looks from 3, and make him our finisher on the P&R, and I think he projects out like an Amare with a somewhat decent 3pt shot.
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So, if we're not looking at this in a vaccuum, if we make a trade, how do we retain both Nurk and Gordon this summer?

Last year, he had Fournier, Ibaka and Vucevic to keep defenses honest, and he sucked. Sure, they were playing him out of position at the 3 prior to trading Ibaka, but that's kind of the problem. He seems like a real tweener to me. He's a below average rebounder for a starting 4 and a negative defender, but doesn't have the handle or 3-point shot to be a 3.

And, he's going to get paid - a lot. Somebody will throw stupid money at an athletic 22-year old and we will be stuck in the same match or loose situation we were with Crabbe. Of course, Gordon is better than Crabbe, but is he a near max player? IMHO, no he is not. He's at best a 3rd or 4th wheel kind of player on a winning team and you can't afford to pay him like he's a 1st or 2nd wheel.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Last year, he had Fournier, Ibaka and Vucevic to keep defenses honest, and he sucked.
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For me it's not about shooting. They had garbage PG play, which is the biggest factor for a PF like him (in the Amare mold) to be successful. Adding Gordon would really help the fast break.

As for resigning him and Nurk? This team will have to pay a crazy tax bill for a while until they start shedding those terrible contracts when they are expiring.
 
craigehlo said:
Adding Gordon would really help the fast break.
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No it won't. The only thing that could help the fast break is a new coach or a new PG...and it might take both in order for us to be successful on the break.
 
santeesioux said:
The Trail Blazers are looking to make a splash and find a third star to pair with Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum. Portland has kept tabs on DeAndre Jordan and is also trying to upgrade at small forward.

Portland is also shopping forward Noah Vonleh, league sources told The Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/229016/2018...ba-trade-deadline-possibilities-team-by-team/
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sounds like speculation to me, but i think we're primed to replace our depth in the front court with another high-profile player.
 
At the very least, if the opinion around the league is that we're looking for a 3rd star to pair with Dame & CJ, that means the general consensus is Nurk's value is going down. He may not attract huge offers from other teams.
 
handiman said:
At the very least, if the opinion around the league is that we're looking for a 3rd star to pair with Dame & CJ, that means the general consensus is Nurk's value is going down. He may not attract huge offers from other teams.
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in two years time, Nurk will be the second best player on the team
 
handiman said:
At the very least, if the opinion around the league is that we're looking for a 3rd star to pair with Dame & CJ, that means the general consensus is Nurk's value is going down. He may not attract huge offers from other teams.
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I disagree... I think Nurk has star potential, he is just 2-3 years away from consistency and Blazers need players to bring it every night while Dame/CJ in their prime. It’s a timing thing more than knock on Nurks talent.
 
Gronk Brady said:
I disagree... I think Nurk has star potential, he is just 2-3 years away from consistency and Blazers need players to bring it every night while Dame/CJ in their prime. It’s a timing thing more than knock on Nurks talent.
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Lol there is absolutely no move this team can make right now that would catapult them into immediate contention. Just don't have enough assets.

George was pretty much the only hope.

This is a process. And they're still years away.
 
Scalma said:
Lol there is absolutely no move this team can make right now that would catapult them into immediate contention. Just don't have enough assets.

George was pretty much the only hope.

This is a process. And they're still years away.
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Years away? Im sure that's what Paul Allen told Dame. Dame & CJ might as well leave if that's the case.
 
Scalma said:
Lol there is absolutely no move this team can make right now that would catapult them into immediate contention. Just don't have enough assets.

George was pretty much the only hope.

This is a process. And they're still years away.
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Missing out on PG, although not really Neil’s fault, is looking more and more painful. He’s already talking about “the decision becoming a lot easier” regarding resigning in OKC because of their record and Westbrook’s leadership. I bet we would be right there with Minnesota with him on our team, Dame is one of the better leaders in the league, and he’s a couple hr flight from LA. Man, what could have been.
 
AFully22 said:
Missing out on PG, although not really Neil’s fault, is looking more and more painful. He’s already talking about “the decision becoming a lot easier” regarding resigning in OKC because of their record and Westbrook’s leadership. I bet we would be right there with Minnesota with him on our team, Dame is one of the better leaders in the league, and he’s a couple hr flight from LA. Man, what could have been.
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Blame Pritchard. Or don't. Looks like he got the best deal after all.

Definitely not Olsheys fault though. But yeah missed opportunity.
 
http://www.sportingnews.com/amp/nba...s-deadline-contract/7uu75abuhkq114wh35w147x2t

Few things are going right for the Magic this season.

The franchise, which hasn't made the playoffs since its 2011-12 campaign, has one of the league's worst records at 15-35 and has dropped four of its last five games as it prepares to take on the Wizards on Saturday night.

That means no one's job is safe. The Athletic's Michael Scotto reported the Magic could be shopping Aaron Gordon, their leading scorer and second-leading rebounder, on the trade market. The 22-year-old is in the midst of his finest season as a pro, averaging 18.4 points and 8.3 rebounds per game while shooting a career-high 34.6 percent from 3-point range.

According to The Athletic:
The new regime of Jeff Weltman and John Hammond has left no stone unturned with the deadline approaching, including quietly gauging the trade market on Aaron Gordon, league sources told The Athletic.

Gordon is eligible for restricted free agency this summer, so Orlando could simply be doing due diligence."

The Magic selected the 6-9, 220-pound Arizona product with the fourth overall pick in the 2014 NBA Draft. A broken foot caused him to miss 32 games as a rookie in 2014-15. He played 78 games, starting 37, the next season and became a full-time starter in 2016-17.

He's missed the Magic's last two games, a 114-107 loss against the Rockets on Tuesday and a 127-105 victory against the Lakers on Wednesday, with a hip injury. He's currently listed as day-to-day.
 
Scalma said:
Lol there is absolutely no move this team can make right now that would catapult them into immediate contention. Just don't have enough assets.

George was pretty much the only hope.

This is a process. And they're still years away.
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Mo + 1st for Bradley?
 
AFully22 said:
Missing out on PG, although not really Neil’s fault, is looking more and more painful. He’s already talking about “the decision becoming a lot easier” regarding resigning in OKC because of their record and Westbrook’s leadership. I bet we would be right there with Minnesota with him on our team, Dame is one of the better leaders in the league, and he’s a couple hr flight from LA. Man, what could have been.
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If Pritchard would have taken what POR supposedly offered (all three 1st round picks, 1 starter other than Dame, C.J. and Nurk and one other player) for PG13, we would be seriously challenging HOU for the second best record in the West right now. And, I think because of superior defense and a more balanced roster, we'd beat HOU in a 7 game series.

PG13 is such a perfect fit in POR. Our defense is currently 7th in the league and would be so much better with George. We'd also have a top 10, possibly top 5 offense with Dame, PG13 and C.J. as our top 3 options.

We'd be so much better than OKC (assuming we didn't gut the roster to add Carmelo the way they did).

I honestly believe that roster would have at least gotten us to the WCF this year, and maybe further still in years to come.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
If Pritchard would have taken what POR supposedly offered (all three 1st round picks, 1 starter other than Dame, C.J. and Nurk and one other player) for PG13, we would be seriously challenging HOU for the second best record in the West right now. And, I think because of superior defense and a more balanced roster, we'd beat HOU in a 7 game series.

PG13 is such a perfect fit in POR. Our defense is currently 7th in the league and would be so much better with George. We'd also have a top 10, possibly top 5 offense with Dame, PG13 and C.J. as our top 3 options.

We'd be so much better than OKC (assuming we didn't gut the roster to add Carmelo the way they did).

I honestly believe that roster would have at least gotten us to the WCF this year, and maybe further still in years to come.

BNM
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We'd even allow him to shoot in the 4th quarters of games!
 
Let's not forget that Paul George was probably responsible for imploding the Pacers when they were actually good - because he allegedly had an affair with the wife / girlfriend of Roy Hibbert (when he was good).

I understand that PG13 is a very good player - but he is also a questionable teammate...
 
andalusian said:
Let's not forget that Paul George was probably responsible for imploding the Pacers when they were actually good - because he allegedly had an affair with the wife / girlfriend of Roy Hibbert (when he was good).

I understand that PG13 is a very good player - but he is also a questionable teammate...
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I’d jump on that grenade.
 
Boob-No-More said:
If Pritchard would have taken what POR supposedly offered (all three 1st round picks, 1 starter other than Dame, C.J. and Nurk and one other player) for PG13, we would be seriously challenging HOU for the second best record in the West right now. And, I think because of superior defense and a more balanced roster, we'd beat HOU in a 7 game series.

PG13 is such a perfect fit in POR. Our defense is currently 7th in the league and would be so much better with George. We'd also have a top 10, possibly top 5 offense with Dame, PG13 and C.J. as our top 3 options.

We'd be so much better than OKC (assuming we didn't gut the roster to add Carmelo the way they did).

I honestly believe that roster would have at least gotten us to the WCF this year, and maybe further still in years to come.

BNM
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Butler would have been better than PG13.
 
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