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42N8Bounce said:
Nice job on these videos @BonesJones. I appreciate you putting them together and posting them here. Both of these guys are exciting prospects.

I'm curious to see where Toppin ends up landing. #3 NCAA box +/-, #6 NCAA FG%, and #7 NCAA PER. Even though he's 22 and played for a small school, those are tough credentials to pass up.

I'd love to have Bey available when the Blazers draft at #16. #4 NCAA in 3pt FG% at 6'8" 215 lbs. I think he's just what the Blazers need.
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Where did you get the box +/- scores for the NCAA? (I like Bey a lot too, but it's looking like he'll be gone by the #16)
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Where did you get the box +/- scores for the NCAA? (I like Bey a lot too, but it's looking like he'll be gone by the #16)
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https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/2020-leaders.html

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I agree that Bey will probably be gone by #16. But who knows? I'm always surprised at who falls and who rises on draft day. If we can't nab Bey at #16, I'd love to see us grab Vernon Carey (#9 on the chart above). I think he's under valued because of the current trend of bigs in the NBA. Wings are much higher valued.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Do you have your and Eric's Big Boards posted anywhere? What about mocks?
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We'll post our big boards only showing rankings of prospects that we've already released a profile video on already. Dont want to spoil anything in that regard just yet. We'll do a mock draft at some point, either as a video or as an article on the website we're launching shortly.
 
42N8Bounce said:
Nice job on these videos @BonesJones. I appreciate you putting them together and posting them here. Both of these guys are exciting prospects.

I'm curious to see where Toppin ends up landing. #3 NCAA box +/-, #6 NCAA FG%, and #7 NCAA PER. Even though he's 22 and played for a small school, those are tough credentials to pass up.

I'd love to have Bey available when the Blazers draft at #16. #4 NCAA in 3pt FG% at 6'8" 215 lbs. I think he's just what the Blazers need.
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Thanks!
 
Im predicting Stewart will be a steal in the late 1st or early to mid 2nd. If you recall I predicted that GTjr. would be the steal of the second round, well, he could be, we'll see.
I'm not a Husky fan at all but and I know many in here think he's to slow, no shot and wont translate to the NBA, I disagree.
Who's your wild card pick?
 
JDC said:
My favorite players outside ESPN's top 25

Xavier Tillman (40): Smartest big in the draft. Wonderful screener and passer with some face up handling skill and underrated finishing touch. Defensively he makes up for less than ideal height, length and movement skills with his strength, intelligence and timing. Quick and strong hands. Has some stretch potential. Best working off dynamic ball handlers.
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Finally caught up. The Draymond comparisons are almost inescapable (tweener from Michigan State with amazing +/- numbers, great passing but doubts about athleticism and shot) - what comparison would you give? Seems unlikely to last to our second-rounder - what's the highest pick you'd use on him?
 
BonesJones said:
We'll post our big boards only showing rankings of prospects that we've already released a profile video on already. Dont want to spoil anything in that regard just yet. We'll do a mock draft at some point, either as a video or as an article on the website we're launching shortly.
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Understandable, it just seems like you're doing the hardest part of having a website, without actually having a website and reaping the traffic rewards for that.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Finally caught up. The Draymond comparisons are almost inescapable (tweener from Michigan State with amazing +/- numbers, great passing but doubts about athleticism and shot) - what comparison would you give? Seems unlikely to last to our second-rounder - what's the highest pick you'd use on him?
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Comps are always tough, but his frame and movement remind me of Derrick Favors. Little shorter and not the same level as a vertical athlete, but smarter with a higher skill level facing the basket.

Definitely has some Draymond in him though. Isn't the fluid and flexible Dray was/is or the level of ball handler, passer or even shooter. Better finisher, but not sure the difference will stand out at the next level. Also don't think he'll be nearly as versatile as a ballscreen defender that prime Dray was.

Still a top 20 guy for me. Would have him higher if I trusted the movement skills more. Favorite big in the draft, 3rd big on my board after Wiseman and Okongwu.

Some smart team will take him and be very happy.
 
Nico has some Deron Williams in him.

I know I'll get some laughs--mainly because of the length and strength difference--but he shares a lot of similar traits from a skill and stylistic perspective. Nico's size is overlooked though. Doesn't have length, but already 190lbs with a developed lower body and an 8'1.5" standing reach (D-Will's is 8'2"). Flashes physicality too, but not consistent.

-Sharp footwork, good rise and a high release as pull up shooters. Able to get shots off w/o much space.
-Lack elite pure speed and and vertical athleticism, but play with a great change of pace.
-Love to play off hang dribbles. Hang crosses, stare down pull ups, pound dribble step backs etc.
-Balance playmaking and scoring well and are versatile offensive players in the half court with ability to play on and off the ball. Willing and physical guard screeners.
-Look to push the ball in transition. Always plays with a head up.
 
Random question - would folks gamble on Tillie at 46? Wouldn't it be funny if he got healthy and turned out better than Collins?
 
The closer we get to the draft the more serious I think Im going to take Jaden McDaniels as a serious option for Portland. Look at Olsheys history, he LOVES guys that were highly touted out of high school. McDaniels is not only that, but his game theoretically fits the system. Olshey has also never been afraid to get a guy that needs to grow physically. Meyers, Barton, Collins, Simons, even CJ.
 
Scalma said:
The closer we get to the draft the more serious I think Im going to take Jaden McDaniels as a serious option for Portland. Look at Olsheys history, he LOVES guys that were highly touted out of high school. McDaniels is not only that, but his game theoretically fits the system. Olshey has also never been afraid to get a guy that needs to grow physically. Meyers, Barton, Collins, Simons, even CJ.
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No offense, but the players you picked don't exactly speak highly of this method. Myers, Collins and Simons are the ones it fits most (add Nas), while Barton and CJ were older and fully-formed.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
No offense, but the players you picked don't exactly speak highly of this method. Myers, Collins and Simons are the ones it fits most (add Nas), while Barton and CJ were older and fully-formed.
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Barton weighed like 170 pounds pre draft. He’s probably closer to 190 now. CJ has also gotten bigger every year. Neither of those guys are where they were as rookies.

And Nas is the literal opposite of physically under developed
 
Kira Lewis Jr. is a top 5 player in this draft.
 
Trying not to overreact to the new Vassell footage...:sad:
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Kevin O'Connor's big board for the Ringer (lots of controversial opinions)
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SHADES OF: Amar'e Stoudemire, Kyle Kuzma,
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RR7 said:
I admit I don't watch nearly as much college basketball as many on here. I'll do a little scouting prep, and find guys I like. I really am struggling with Toppin. Which means he'll probably come in right away and be a dominant force, lol. I see a weird cross between a homeless man's Amare Stoudamire and a wealthy man's Kyle Kuzma.
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Am I Kevin O'Connor?
 
tester551 said:
??? What are you talking about?
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I think there was a clip that came out today where he's altered his shot, looks like he's shooting from well behind his head.
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RR7 said:
I think there was a clip that came out today where he's altered his shot, looks like he's shooting from well behind his head.
Found it

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That’s a ugly shooting form. Definitely not the one he was showing during the season. Maybe he’s doing it on purpose so he can play on a playoff team lol
 
I'm sure the change is to increase his range--almost all of his threes were toeing the college line last year--you just wish it was done through improving his lower body and core strength and not elongating a form that already had some wasted movement in it.
 
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