Politics Official 2024 Presidential Election Thread

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crandc said:
Maybe one of the guys can explain this.

I understand half the gender gap. Trump boasts of overturning Roe. He is legally responsible for rape. His words and actions towards women have been despicable for decades. So women favoring Harris by a large margin isn't surprising.

It's the other half of the gender gap that needs explaining. Unlike Hillary Clinton, who had been demonized for years, Harris doesn't have strong negatives. She is physically attractive and personable. She is running on a centrist platform. Yet male voters, including many who voted for Biden, aren't supporting her. Is it just that men won't vote for a woman? Because a woman can't be qualified? Is she automatically seen as weak or at least weaker, rather ironic considering how weak Trump is? Are men so insecure they can't handle a successful woman? What?
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My FiL is quite proud of his children, as all 5 of them are well-educated and successful women. He's a good grandpa to his granddaughters, and he adores his only grandson (my boy). He's a registered Republican, and has consistently voted R in every Presidential Election. He sat out in 2016 but voted for Biden in 2020 (first time he's ever voted D). He cannot stomach Trump but he'll never vote for a woman. He's going to sit this one out.

On a positive note, our neice, who's been doing phone banking for the Harris/Walz Campaign, got my MiL to vote for the first time since she's been a U.S. citizen. My FiL wasn't particularly pleased, but we're all very proud of her!
 
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crandc said:
And earlier today someone on this thread told me men prefer Trump because they care about national security.
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It’s a feeling of being anti establishment and bro.

“Like bro look at Trump. He’s got all those people in a tizzy.”

It gets their rocks off.
 
And they always do that turtle neck jutting forward with the things sticking out of their neck and the big eyes....
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Where is he going? Remember how this was a "far right conspiracy" just a few months ago.
 
PCmor7 said:
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:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:


Trump was using an analogy that's been used forever by anti-war folks, pointing out how the politicians that are pushing for war wouldn't start them if they had to go fight on the front line themselves.

Everyone with 3 neurons understands this.
 
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Spent the morning voting. Sometime I wish California would be more a republic and less a Greek democracy. We elect and pay these individuals to make decisions, but every election you have to spend time to research the intricate maze of healthcare funding or housing zones to vote on so many measures.

I might just run on a "limit the number of measures" measure to make voting simpler...
 
MickZagger said:
It’s a feeling of being anti establishment and bro.

“Like bro look at Trump. He’s got all those people in a tizzy.”

It gets their rocks off.
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Well, the bros need to use a few brain cells.
 
beast blazer said:
:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:


Trump was using an analogy that's been used forever by anti-war folks, pointing out how the politicians that are pushing for war wouldn't start them if they had to go fight on the front line themselves.

Everyone with 3 neurons understands this.
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That's funny coming from old coward bone spurs.
 
The campaign office where I volunteer covers Hayward, San Leandro, Castro Valley, San Lorenzo and unincorporated areas Ashland and another so we have to make different literature packets for each area canvassers.

Running out of literature which is good.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Nobody cared then. Nobody cares now.
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Why would you not care about your president being so loopy?

And yes, the left and the media did attempt to gaslight the public that this was propaganda.

You lefties won't deal honestly with reality.
 
beast blazer said:
Why would you not care about your president being so loopy?

And yes, the left and the media did attempt to gaslight the public that this was propaganda.

You lefties won't deal honestly with reality.
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Because he's not going to be my president in a couple months. The choices they gave us were two senile old farts. One wants to make the world far worse in order to shift more money toward the wealthy the other one isn't as bad, and has a far better cabinet.

Biden is the one who isn't as bad with the better supporting cast.

I don't care if he's brain dead. He's better than Trump.

I'd prefer a better option, but that wasn't available. Now, Harris is not as bad as Trump. So Biden is completely and 100% irrelevant.
 
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Easily the most surprising poll result so far: Ann Seltzer has Harris leading in Iowa, 47-44.

Seltzer is a very good pollster, but of course any one poll can be completely wrong, even from good pollsters.

If it's right, though, it's landslide time.

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