OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: NOVEMBER 2023

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Clarkson avg 32/4/3 last 4 games.
Player of the week nomination?
 
Another solid game for Kevin Knox for Detroit. Still baffling why we chose to sign Ish Wainwright over Kevin Knox.
Need more Tank Commanders. Losing on purpose is tough when you have a guy on the bench that wants to play well.
 
The Spurs and Wembanyama stinking it up with their 8th straight loss, to Memphis in San Antonio.
Wembanyama at times looks lost. Near
the end of the game, guarded by a much smaller player at the 3-point line, he threw a horrible pass into the lane which was easily intercepted.
 
The Spurs and Wembanyama stinking it up with their 8th straight loss, to Memphis in San Antonio.
Wembanyama at times looks lost. Near
the end of the game, guarded by a much smaller player at the 3-point line, he threw a horrible pass into the lane which was easily intercepted.
He had 2 turnovers and he’s one of the highest usage players in the league.

He also had 19/13/4 and 8 blocks.
 
* Dame & Giannis finally had good games in the same game. Giannis 40-15-7; Dame with 27 points and 12 assists. Bucks 9-2 when Dame plays

* I guess I hadn't been paying attention but Minny at 9-3?

* Warriors pick getting better. They are now 11th in the lottery
 
He had 2 turnovers and he’s one of the highest usage players in the league.

He also had 19/13/4 and 8 blocks.
What about the quality of his offense?
He's 7' 4" and has shot 50% or better overall in 1 of the last 8 games.
Tonight he was 6 -17 which is 35. 3%
That sucks.
 
The Thunder trio of SGA, Chet and JW are going to be a problem for a LONG time. Will they use some of their picks to go all-in and get a veteran star?
 
Really happy to see Chet do well. Really wish we could of gotten him somehow. Thunder have a very bright future after so little time away from contending. Drafting well really helps that.
 
The Thunder trio of SGA, Chet and JW are going to be a problem for a LONG time. Will they use some of their picks to go all-in and get a veteran star?
I'm so jealous of them.

Blazers need a way to matchup with Chet and Wemby long-term. I would take Alex Sarr #1 in a heartbeat for that reason. But hitting on the 12th pick with JDub was huge for them. Blazers could have a similar chance with that Golden State pick.
 
What about the quality of his offense?
He's 7' 4" and has shot 50% or better overall in 1 of the last 8 games.
Tonight he was 6 -17 which is 35. 3%
That sucks.
Rookies generally struggle with efficiency. Look at Scoot, Wemby, the Thompson twins, etc... Makes what Chet is doing even more impressive.
 
What about the quality of his offense?
He's 7' 4" and has shot 50% or better overall in 1 of the last 8 games.
Tonight he was 6 -17 which is 35. 3%
That sucks.
Yeah, his offense could certainly be better. The spurs aren’t helping him much on that end considering they don’t exactly have great floor spacing, and he is essentially being forced to shoot a ton with his crazy high usage rate. I mean, it’s kind of anticipated that he would be inefficient.
 
Rookies generally struggle with efficiency. Look at Scoot, Wemby, the Thompson twins, etc... Makes what Chet is doing even more impressive.
Chet also plays for a much better team than the rest of those guys. He also happens to play with an all-nba guard, so he is likely to get much better opportunities than those other guys.
 
Miller had 28 tonight in a loss.
Gordon Hayward is in a mega-slump. PJ Washington had his worse game as a pro. The Hornets are so messed up, that wife beating Bridges guy is currently their most efficient player.
 
Shit I didn’t even realize Hayward was still in the league!
 
This is pretty bad though.
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Shit I didn’t even realize Hayward was still in the league!

It's weird how many people have written him off. I looked at his stats a couple days ago, and other than FT%, he's averaging better than his career numbers in every category.

Granted, his career averages are affected by being injured so often, but that seems to be the part mostly affecting perception, not his actual play this year.
 
This probably could've been in the "Around the NBA" thread you know....
 
One of them plays out on the perimeter constantly. And yet….. tons of fouls. Maybe because of the usual superstar bias?

59% of Embiid's shots are assisted; 71% of Ayton's shots are assisted. Meaning that Embiid goes iso more often and going iso has always been a more reliable method of fishing for whistles

sure, there could be some superstar bias at work, but I don't think it explains the discrepancy. But that also cuts two ways; teams fear Embiid a lot more than they fear Ayton, so Embiid will draw tighter, more intense defense and a hell of a lot more doubles and traps. That creates FT's.

another reason I don't really buy the superstar excuse is looking at their career FT rates:

Embiid:

2016-17 .569
2017-18 .442
2018-19 .541
2019-20 .543
2020-21 .610
2021-22 .602
2022-23 .581
2023-24 .510

Ayton:

2018-19 .217
2019-20 .157
2020-21 .252
2021-22 .204
2022-23 .225
2023-24 .055

Embiid simply came into the league much better equipped to get to the FT line. He wasn't a superstar as a rookie. In a fashion this kind of reminds me of the Dame vs CJ comparison. They both penetrate and get to the paint and rim. But CJ danced around the edges of the paint, a lot. While Dame aggressively attacked the rim. CJ avoided contact, Dame did not and actually worked to find the best spots to bait his hook for the whistle-fish. The result is that Dame has a career FTA/100-possessions mark of 8.9 (13.6 this season) and a FT rate of .349 (.580 this season). CJ has career marks of 4.2 and .166

I see the same tendencies at work with Ayton I saw with CJ. That being that Ayton consistently avoids contact. He settles for spin-moves, fade-aways, and open jumpers instead of aggressively attacking the rim

that's not necessarily bad. Ayton is shooting .603 on two's; Embiid .540. And Ayton has an eFG of .598 while Embiid is at .530. Ayton is more efficient in terms of conversion rates on shots. And even accounting for FT's, Ayton has a TS% advantage over Embiid .620 vs .618. So, even though he settles for low contact shots that don't draw a lot of fouls, the big advantage he has in raw FG% translates to slightly better efficiency metrics....except in one critical area: Ayton averages 1.17 points/shot; Embiid averages 1.51. That adds up

still, while it would be helpful if Ayton drew more fouls and shot more FT's, I don't think that's a big factor in the Ayton equation. I don't believe he'll be an all-star level C but the Blazers don't really need that from him. They need him to rebound, patrol the paint defensively, and be a lower-usage mid-range outlet on offense. He's getting there and so far, seems to have a great attitude
 
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