Exclusive OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: OCTOBER 2024

[julius]

How many times has the "but he's only x" years old excuse turned out to be in reference to a player that actually proved the original statement wrong, vs how many times did it fail...just for Blazers in the modern era. Let's see from memory:

Drastically improved:
Jermaine O'Neal

Ended up being the the duds they looked like when they were young:
Telfair, Webster, Outlaw, Leonard, Little, Woods...

The difference is, Telfair, Webster and Outlaw were all reaches at their positions, Sharpe wasn't.

Leonard was just a bad pick.

And little and woods were not lotto picks. And in the case of Little, there's a reason he dropped.

 

[Phatguysrule]

That should’ve been a charging call. Bronny doesn’t have to be facing him to take a charge. The rare run into my back charge.

You have to be there first and established for it to be a charge. Bronny was not. He got there late and he initiated the contact on a player in the act of jumping. Absolutely 100% a foul.

And the fact that he flexed before he hit him shows that he had intent on the body, not the ball. Flagrant.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I wanted us to draft Knecht. But I was told that he’s too old to be good.

Ya I remember too but I guess it all comes down to age.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Lebron, made sure to get the full story from the officials...

 

[Freshtown]

 

[THE HCP]

1 year, minimum salary, unguaranteed. Could include bonuses to the player if after he's waived, he stays with the team's GLeague affiliate for 60 days.

Thank you

 

[THE HCP]

I wanted us to draft Knecht. But I was told that he’s too old to be good.

You wanted us to draft ANOTHER guard?

 

[THE HCP]

You know that is the one point that i simply cannot argue against. It's so very true for both Scoot and Sharpe.
Anyway I was kind of more bitching about the lakers getting a decent player with my original statement. The head and shoulders part might have been a bit over the top but at least at this point Knecht looks to be way more NBA ready.

WE are good at drafting….

 

[Phatguysrule]

WE are good at drafting….

WE had better be...

 

[handiman]

The difference is, Telfair, Webster and Outlaw were all reaches at their positions, Sharpe wasn't.

That's debatable. No one was [reportedly] scrambling to get ahead of us to pick him, and he was available there precisely because of the uncertainties that have led him to still being only potentially more valuable than where he was picked.

 

[THE HCP]

NO street, avenue. boulevard, highway ,freeway or god damn cul-du-sac is saying that FAMS!

 

[THE HCP]

 

[THE HCP]

I love tall, long playmakers. Walt Williams, Lamar Odom, Steve Smith, Ben Simmons…… bring this kid in!

 

[Cugel]

Rutgers is gonna be special this year. Two top 5 draft prospects?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Just realized Harper is Ron Harper’s kid!

That's nothing - you'll never guess whose kid Scottie Pippen Jr is!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

That's nothing - you'll never guess whose kid Scottie Pippen Jr is!

Marcus Jordan?

 

[BigGameDamian]

So after we draft one of these top guys in this year‘s draft will then have the greenlight to start winning?

 

[BIG Q]

So after we draft one of these top guys in this year‘s draft will then have the greenlight to start winning?

As long as it is without Ant and Grant.

 

[Haakzilla]

 

[MickZagger]

I love tall, long playmakers. Walt Williams, Lamar Odom, Steve Smith, Ben Simmons…… bring this kid in!

I think you’re confusing Walt Williams with Scottie Pippen.

I remember Walt as a strictly catch and shoot guy.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think you’re confusing Walt Williams with Scottie Pippen.

I remember Walt as a strictly catch and shoot guy.

Catch and shoot is not how you get the nickname "Wizard"

 

[Phatguysrule]

So after we draft one of these top guys in this year‘s draft will then have the greenlight to start winning?

Only if Scoot or Sharpe have popped. And even then we probably need another year.

And we'll probably need to get Simons and Grant out of the way before either of those guys can pop.

 

[THE HCP]

I think you’re confusing Walt Williams with Scottie Pippen.

I remember Walt as a strictly catch and shoot guy.

Son google him. Handles and dimes! Probably only averaged 3 assists a game, but they were smooth. Guy ran PG.

 

[THE HCP]

Not sure if this pack shows dimes, but he had em

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Scottie Pippen once named the Wizard when he was asked to pick the player most similar to himself - true story!

 

[SharpesTriumph]

The difference is, Telfair, Webster and Outlaw were all reaches at their positions, Sharpe wasn't.

Leonard was just a bad pick.

And little and woods were not lotto picks. And in the case of Little, there's a reason he dropped.

Webster was a reach and brutal when there was CP3 taken as well as Deron Williams. But you can't group the others with him.

Outlaw was a great pick @ #23 and the key to the Blazers eventually acquiring Marcus Camby. Even after his Blazers career he signed a $35 million contract. Had some many helpful seasons as a Blazer being a key role player or occasional starter. No he never became a great starter as we had hoped but he far exceed the expected value of a late first round pick as is typical at #23.

Telfair was taken at #13 and two years later the Blazers flipped him for the pick that became Brandon Roy at #6. So no that wasn't a reach at all, Blazers actually netted much more value in the deal.

I'm ok with the Leonard pick (#11 is a lot different that #3). He had amazing shooting. The pick was fine. It wasn't a great pick but it wasn't terrible. The problem was 4 years later after he tore his elbow we gave him a 40 million contract in that stupid Olshey/Cronin 2016 offseason.

The #3 pick used on Scoot was worth a TON and expected to be a HAUL. You can't compare it to any of the other mentioned Blazer picks except for the Webster pick, or Oden, or LMA.

 

[KingSpeed]

Outlaw hit like 6 buzzer beating game winners.

 

[MickZagger]

Outlaw hit like 6 buzzer beating game winners.

Outlaw was the most awe schucks player I’ve ever seen. Like everything he ever did was an accident

 

[THE HCP]

Outlaw was the most awe schucks player I’ve ever seen. Like everything he ever did was an accident

My favorite Trav play was a putback dunk on Philly I believe.