OFFICIAL Around The NBA Thread...... August (1 Viewer)

[Orion Bailey]

I can't believe that there is still bitching going on around here about this. You and HCP need to go have a couple of beers together and laugh this shit off. Good grief.

I sooo agree.. I'M not the one holding that up.

I commented on the blurry pic to.. Having some fun. Apparently I insulted him and it was deleted.... yeah....

Fucking funny how pathetic the grudge is if you ask me.

 

[Chris Craig]

Better watch it. You are not allowed to fuck with the guy that fucks with people around here.....

Do as I say, not as I do!

Me? Watch it? I don't do that

 

[Boob-No-More]

He's just complaining because people don't think his brand of humor is funny

A good re-branding campaign is in order. No one has found his woe-is-me, Debbie Downer shtick funny in at least a decade, if ever.

BNM

 

[Chris Craig]

A good re-branding campaign is in order. No one has found his woe-is-me, Debbie Downer shtick funny in at least a decade, if ever.

BNM

But...but...his pizza guy must have laughed

 

[Boob-No-More]

But...but...his pizza guy must have laughed

As he held onto his shorts...

BNM

 

[Propagandist]

That's a false correlation. He can be our 4th scorer down the road and contribute to a playoff team. There's enough volume available for our 4th scorer to get 14ppg.

Why say something intentionally antagonistic and hypothetical is a false correlation? Of course it is! Although, I can see the relationship just fine. But I'll modify to make it clearer: if NEXT season Zach shoots +/-5% of his numbers LAST season AND averages 14 ppg I will put theoretical cash money down that we are a lottery team. I feel good about this one. Case closed!

 

[Chris Craig]

Why say something intentionally antagonistic and hypothetical is a false correlation? Of course it is! Although, I can see the relationship just fine. But I'll modify to make it clearer: if NEXT season Zach shoots +/-5% of his numbers LAST season AND averages 14 ppg I will put theoretical cash money down that we are a lottery team. I feel good about this one. Case closed!

Or Stotts has finally come to his senses and added some post play to his game plan to take pressure off the perimeter and place a little more of the blazers offense around the basket. Naaaah

 

[Orion Bailey]

Why say something intentionally antagonistic and hypothetical is a false correlation? Of course it is! Although, I can see the relationship just fine. But I'll modify to make it clearer: if NEXT season Zach shoots +/-5% of his numbers LAST season AND averages 14 ppg I will put theoretical cash money down that we are a lottery team. I feel good about this one. Case closed!

Or Stotts has finally come to his senses and added some post play to his game plan to take pressure off the perimeter and place a little more of the blazers offense around the basket. Naaaah

I think he is saying based on his shooting percentage last year, in order to average 14ppg, he will need the ball and take too many shots in the game, and that will cause us to lose too much.

 

[Propagandist]

I think he is saying based on his shooting percentage last year, in order to average 14ppg, he will need the ball and take too many shots in the game, and that will cause us to lose too much.

Joking aside, this is true. And I think ZC is going to be great. I don't think he is going to take bad shots, and I think he is going to find his niche. He is mobile and careful with the ball; he can shoot, post, and seems to have that offense rebound gene that guys like Ed Davis have. And that's just offensively.

I'm aghast that he'll likely being sharing the court with 11 or Swanigan, but with passers like Curry and Baldwin and (I guess) ET, I think we'll see an instant uptick in ZC efficiency and all-around numbers. There, I said it.

 

[Eastoff]

. He's all muscle... What are they FEEDING this MF?????
He could be LeBron lite... Watch...

It makes me wonder... What if you gave a 16 big kid HGH or something along those lines?

 

[THE HCP]

Another prediction of us missing the playoffs........
https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ba-projections-can-tell-us-about-next-season/

 

[handiman]

Ben Wallace, Dennis Rodman and DeAndre Jordan beg to differ

Two are long gone from the game and the third is on the downside of his career. Not exactly strong evidence of what it takes for a big to succeed in today's game.

The game has changed dramatically, but I have a hunch another dominant inside player like Shaq would swing it back at least somewhat.

 

[e_blazer]

Another prediction of us missing the playoffs........
https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ba-projections-can-tell-us-about-next-season/

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I'll take the under on the T'Wolves winning 52 games. Same on the Jazz winning 54 and the Thunder winning 53. I swear, these things are like the popular kids getting picked at recess.

 

[dviss1]

If you're given 45 million over 4 years and you don't have to change your game, why would you?

To get that extra 80 mil?

 

[hoopsjock]

Another prediction of us missing the playoffs........
https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ba-projections-can-tell-us-about-next-season/

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So we're 10 games worse off and the Spurs are going to win 7 less games but the Thunder and Wolves each jump up 5 games? I don't buy it.

 

[riverman]

Two are long gone from the game and the third is on the downside of his career. Not exactly strong evidence of what it takes for a big to succeed in today's game.

The game has changed dramatically, but I have a hunch another dominant inside player like Shaq would swing it back at least somewhat.

defense is still an asset in the game....people just overlook it for scoring titles more often than not....and by the way..Shaq is long gone from the game as well...

 

[dviss1]

So we're 10 games worse off and the Spurs are going to win 7 less games but the Thunder and Wolves each jump up 5 games? I don't buy it.

Right? Spurs definitely get better IMO. Pups are gonna have inner turmoil.

Thunder???

 

[Boob-No-More]

It's getting harder and harder to take FiveThirtyEight seriously. Not (just) because the constantly underrate the Blazers, but because of shit like this:



The Lakers are the most improved team in the league according to our model...

No, that may be your narrative, but it's NOT what your model says. Your model says GSW has improved by +54 Carm-Elo points, vs. a +35 point improvement for LAL. So, either you don't even believe you own model, or your terrible at basic math.

BNM

 

[hoopsjock]

Right? Spurs definitely get better IMO. Pups are gonna have inner turmoil.

Thunder???

I'm still disappointed at the lack of improvement overall this summer added to the roster but that is because I expected a step up. This team definitely didn't get 10 games worse even if you factor in the injuries to other teams last year. It's possible they are better or the same as last year but win a few less games but not that much less.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Thunder trade Carmelo and gain 16 Carm-Elo points.

Literally, addition by subtraction.

BNM

 

[BonesJones]

Why say something intentionally antagonistic and hypothetical is a false correlation? Of course it is! Although, I can see the relationship just fine. But I'll modify to make it clearer: if NEXT season Zach shoots +/-5% of his numbers LAST season AND averages 14 ppg I will put theoretical cash money down that we are a lottery team. I feel good about this one. Case closed!

Yeah, the 20/21 year old season would be a safe bet for that, but not "ever".

 

[blue9]

So we're 10 games worse off and the Spurs are going to win 7 less games but the Thunder and Wolves each jump up 5 games? I don't buy it.

Re: OKC/MIN - I'm guessing they are using 100% health for all projections. A 5-game increase doesn't seem at all far-fetched under that assumption.
Do agree that POR/SAS projections (especially SAS) seem too low.

 

[blue9]

It's getting harder and harder to take FiveThirtyEight seriously. Not (just) because the constantly underrate the Blazers, but because of shit like this:

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The Lakers are the most improved team in the league according to our model...

No, that may be your narrative, but it's NOT what your model says. Your model says GSW has improved by +54 Carm-Elo points, vs. a +35 point improvement for LAL. So, either you don't even believe you own model, or your terrible at basic math.

BNM

I suspect that by "most improved" they mean "the team whose CARMELO score increased the most from last season to this season". Also known as, the "most improved".

 

[e_blazer]

Re: OKC/MIN - I'm guessing they are using 100% health for all projections. A 5-game increase doesn't seem at all far-fetched under that assumption.
Do agree that POR/SAS projections (especially SAS) seem too low.

They better be using the 100% health assumption for those two teams, because they sure don't have much quality depth. The increase may not seem at all far-fetched under that assumption, but the assumption itself sure as hell does. Who gets through an NBA season with 100% health?

 

[Boob-No-More]

I suspect that by "most improved" they mean "the team whose CARMELO score increased the most from last season to this season". Also known as, the "most improved".

That's what I thought too, Isn't that what the Carm-Elo Adjustment column means?

If so, +54 > +35.

BNM

 

[hoopsjock]

Re: OKC/MIN - I'm guessing they are using 100% health for all projections. A 5-game increase doesn't seem at all far-fetched under that assumption.
Do agree that POR/SAS projections (especially SAS) seem too low.

Having a healthy Butler definitely would be an improvement but between chemistry issues and losing Crawford and Bjelica I think some of that is off set. I don't think they are 13 games better than us.

As for the Thunder, I'm not a fan of Roberson because he's pretty much the biggest offensive liability in the league. They were not a good 3 point shooting team last year and did nothing to improve in that department. I'm not scared of them at all.

 

[Boob-No-More]

They better be using the 100% health assumption for those two teams, because they sure don't have much quality depth. The increase may not seem at all far-fetched under that assumption, but the assumption itself sure as hell does. Who gets through an NBA season with 100% health?

Certainly not teams that:

• Rely on injury prone players
• Rely on players > 32 years old
• Are coached by Tom Thibodeau

BNM

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Boob-No-More]

Damn it! I wish he wasn't playing for the Pelicans. Now, I'm actually pulling for the guy to have a bounce back season.

BNM

 

[handiman]

defense is still an asset in the game....people just overlook it for scoring titles more often than not....and by the way..Shaq is long gone from the game as well...

Except that Rodman was a fairly awful defender with the Bulls. He was living on his Pistons reputation at that point... Tremendous rebounder, possibly the biggest offensive negative in league history (he literally hid from the ball), and very lazy defender much of the time. Chicago's team defense was so good, Rodman got a free pass for leaving his man open to get in rebounding position.

Swap Horace Grant back in for Rodman, and that second 3-peat team would have been sooooo much better, yet Rodman's lasting reputation would indicate just the opposite.