OFFICIAL Around The NBA Thread- December 2020

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If you hate on KLeonard, you should be hating on Jordan - he was worse.

Well at least KLeonard has earned some perks.
PG3 on the other hand is a perfect case of "where there's smoke there's fire.
How many rumors have to come out about what a shitty teammate he is before we stop wanting to sign his ass.
 
According to today's NYT morning brief, essential workers and folks over 65 will get vaccinated in February and March. I'll send you some pics from the games. ;)

I'm not an essential worker, but I'm essentially a jerk....guess that doesn't count

I am over 65 though.
 

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If you hate on KLeonard, you should be hating on Jordan - he was worse.

Jordan may not have been a nice guy, but he was unquestionably a leader. I doubt many people have assigned that label to Kawhi. When you're aloof and entitled, it's tough to instill good team values in everyone else ... "do as I say, not as he does."
 
"Gate" - food, beer, wine, soft drinks, parking, souveniers, licensed apparel, ticket sales, etc. Seems like it makes quite a bit of sense. The only revenue left is TV contracts.
Yeah, they still have non-game day merch sales and sponsorships with the TV deals but they have said like 100 times that they lose at least 40% of their revenue without live attendance but I don't know if that factors in the expenses of fan attended game day or not.
 
right...that was the assumption they were basing their number on

I'm really not sure what they are using as the definition of 'gate', but the last estimate I saw was 1.2M per home game, on average. So, about 50M in lost gate revenue, on average. But I'm thinking that would not include revenue from parking, food & beverage, and merchandising sales. So it might be quite a bit higher than 40-50M in lost revenue.

might even be more than the 61M Portland has to pay Dame and CJ this season
Yeah it's 40% of the expected around 9 billion. So, 3.6B ... a bit higher than 40-50M. The fact is I don't think the teams can collect on certain sponsors, they make a shit ton out of concessions and game day merch, parking and I'm sure stuff that's out of my scope of understanding but both the owners and NBAPA have quoted that 40%.
 
Yet miami made no priority to sign him but quickly signed Meyers Leonard to the same amount we gave Jones Jr..
They obviously have Butler and they gave Duncan Robinson a lot of Jones' minutes, they also love Iggy and got Moe for 3 million or some shit and I'm pretty sure Jones said that Miami did offer but other teams seemed like a better opportunity for him. I think he took our offer because we said he'd get a ton of PT/start and we guaranteed two seasons but also gave him the option to make himself a big raise after just one. So with us he gets the opportunity to get a bunch more money without even having to bet on himself. I'm sure regardless of what Miami offered him sitting that entire playoff run didn't sit too well with him.
 
Westbrook traded for Wall + FRP
I don't think they're done. I don't see Wall and Harden as complementary anymore than Harden and Russ but maybe they do. I still think they're gong to struggle but we won't have to wait long to see.
 
Harden for CJ and Giles?
I've said this before but if we can get Harden for something like that I would do it in a heartbeat but during that same heartbeat I would flip Harden for something that actually fits here. Harden is still not a plus defender and him and Dame would still keep each other from being their best offensively, due to redundancy. I realize PG13 or Oladipo are major gambles because they're on expiring contracts and Oladipo's injury history but I'd rather take that gamble because I actually think both of those guys give us a better chance of winning more because they can both create and are so so so much better defensively.

Edit: All of that being said if your trade was the only thing Neil sees or has available that would obviously make us much better because Harden is a better defender than CJ and is obviously better at doing everything CJ does on offense and more.
 
Wall and Boogie finally on the same team.

They dont have to rush to trade Harden. Plenty of time to evaluate and wait for the best offer. James doesnt seem like the kinda guy to mail in a season
 
Its been a while since we saw him healthy but I used to love watching Wall play. Like him a lot more than Russ if they're both healthy tbh
 
Wash your mouth out with soap

I'm not the biggest fan of Harden's game either but he's an MVP-caliber scorer and a better defender than CJ. An upgrade on almost every level. Plus Dame can keep his ego in check and would you REALLY turn down a team with Dame, Harden, Nurk, and the supporting pieces? I wouldn't.
 
Wall
Harden
Gordon
Wood
Cousins

Isn't half bad on paper. But health is a major question mark. And either Wall/Hardens effectiveness off the ball
 

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